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Look like many fans I truly hate the prevent defense. But last night they gave up mostly big plays to Buff and I can understand Bowles going conservative on that last series. But I didn't like it because it leads to a fairly quick TD when for the most part they were not moving the ball that well all night. So I'm not going to kill him about it but it basically gave the Bills a chance to win the game. If that onside kick had been successful and I've seen over the years plenty of them work against the Jets it could have ended in an L esp since Bowles went for one not two on that last TD. 

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Lots of positive things to point and agree with most here.

The thing that impressed me most however what the mental toughness this team showed. I'm sure the fans feeling more frustration early than the team was, as they continually bounced back after the mistakes.

I know I'm going to get killed for this because Fitz put up gaudy numbers, but I'm still so frustrated with him. Even the big throws he makes are off the mark just enough to make it really difficult for our receivers to get them. Behind them almost every time, never in stride. One of those guys is going to get killed out there and we're missing out on even more big plays. It sounds like nitpicking, but its more than that. I'll obviously take the win, but I'm uneasy about it going forward.

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43 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

One of the worst films I've ever seen is Ben Affleck's Daredevil.

 

If Ben Affleck's Daredevil was the movie I was watching when I found out that Rex Ryan was fired, Ben Affleck's Daredevil would have been the greatest cinematic masterpiece I've ever seen.

 

Last night, the Jets played a perfect football game. 

Theres talk that REX will be let go after 4 games as it is very possible they start 0-4

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52 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

One of the worst films I've ever seen is Ben Affleck's Daredevil.

 

If Ben Affleck's Daredevil was the movie I was watching when I found out that Rex Ryan was fired, Ben Affleck's Daredevil would have been the greatest cinematic masterpiece I've ever seen.

 

Last night, the Jets played a perfect football game. 

Star Wars Episode 1 was worse ... That *$$hole George Lucas stole my childhood from me when I saw that on opening day! :(

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18 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

Lots of positive things to point and agree with most here.

The thing that impressed me most however what the mental toughness this team showed. I'm sure the fans feeling more frustration early than the team was, as they continually bounced back after the mistakes.

I know I'm going to get killed for this because Fitz put up gaudy numbers, but I'm still so frustrated with him. Even the big throws he makes are off the mark just enough to make it really difficult for our receivers to get them. Behind them almost every time, never in stride. One of those guys is going to get killed out there and we're missing out on even more big plays. It sounds like nitpicking, but its more than that. I'll obviously take the win, but I'm uneasy about it going forward.

 

D**sh!

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Our defense is monumentally overrated the dline is beastly but can be shut down as we saw last night, the LB's are okay, the secondary is awful and perhaps worst of all our coaching schemes are suspect.  Buffalo scoring 34 is a joke imo.

We can get better but our defense STILL can't get a stop at all late in games or halfs.

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2 hours ago, ljr said:

Will just add that on the poor kickoff coverage play ... Lee was badly held & it looked like his gap the KR hit

the coverage team is night & day compared to last year

Held is an understatement they basically tackled him to the ground 

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8 hours ago, KRL said:

- Best CB's tonight were Marcus Williams and Buster Skrine.  Nice INT by Williams but more
importantly he was better in coverage and tackling.  And Skrine had such good coverage that
he was challenged only once and he broke up a TD pass     
 

Marcus Williams has been very good thus far. If I'm not mistaken, he led the team in INTs last year. Being able to roll coverage away from his guy at a whim, could prove to be invaluable later this season. Tough assignment for a QB, when he isn't sure which direction the safeties will fall back.

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18 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Our defense is monumentally overrated the dline is beastly but can be shut down as we saw last night, the LB's are okay, the secondary is awful and perhaps worst of all our coaching schemes are suspect.  Buffalo scoring 34 is a joke imo.

We can get better but our defense STILL can't get a stop at all late in games or halfs.

I believe I saw a turnover on downs from a 3rd and 1. In fact that happened twice except for a bad spot. 

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30 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Our defense is monumentally overrated the dline is beastly but can be shut down as we saw last night, the LB's are okay, the secondary is awful and perhaps worst of all our coaching schemes are suspect.  Buffalo scoring 34 is a joke imo.

We can get better but our defense STILL can't get a stop at all late in games or halfs.

I am hoping that with the ten days that we have between games that the team can work on communicating within the secondary. It bit us on the ass on the long Green touchdown in Cincinatti and hurt us at least once in the Buffalo game. 

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1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said:

I have a complaint.  We've gotta wait 10 f*ing days before we can watch our kick a$$ Jets wup KC. :) 

Is it wrong to hope for a Alex Smith injury this Sunday? I'd much rather face Nick Foles. The Jets D-line would devour him. While Smith is athletic and savvy enough to put together a good game against them. 

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TO EVERYONE SAYING REVIS NEEDS HELP AND TO PLAY MORE COVER 2 and/or ZONE....

 

The Jets were in a Cover 2 defense on the play where Goodwin scored that 85 yard TD.

 

It was not a man to man defense.Cover 2 is a Zone.  

 

Thank you.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, J-Diddy said:

TO EVERYONE SAYING REVIS NEEDS HELP AND TO PLAY MORE COVER 2 and/or ZONE....

 

The Jets were in a Cover 2 defense on the play where Goodwin scored that 85 yard TD.

 

It was not a man to man defense.Cover 2 is a Zone.  

 

Thank you.

 

 

In fact Revis never made one bad play in his life despite that fact that he has been watching guys run right buy him or catch tons of balls in front of him for a year or so.

All of these lame excuses for Revis really only mean the Jets are stupid for paying a guy that kind of money to look like Kyle Wilson minus the finger wag.

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Just now, Beerfish said:

In fact Revis never made one bad play in his life despite that fact that he has been watching guys run right buy him or catch tons of balls in front of him for a year or so.

All of these lame excuses for Revis really only mean the Jets are stupid for paying a guy that kind of money to look like Kyle Wilson minus the finger wag.

seriously.  who cares what the coverage was.  they left him alone vs a guy who could beat him, and probably most cbs.  savvier defensive minds would have given the cb help.

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46 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Our defense is monumentally overrated the dline is beastly but can be shut down as we saw last night, the LB's are okay, the secondary is awful and perhaps worst of all our coaching schemes are suspect.  Buffalo scoring 34 is a joke imo.

We can get better but our defense STILL can't get a stop at all late in games or halfs.

-The Bills scoring 34 is a joke bc they only scored 31.

-If you watched that game last night and came away with the impression that the Bills offense beat up the Jets defense then IDK what you were watching. 

-The Jets made a huge stop mid way thru the 4th quarter on 4th and 1. Does that not count as a big, late stop? 

-As far as the end of the game the Jets were up two scores and had been beaten by the big play twice already. There is no way you play aggressive at that point based on what happened earlier.  You just want them to kill time marching down the field and then make it difficult in the redzone. Normally I hate prevent but earlier moments in the game dictated that strategy. 

-And I know you don't like the defense. I saw you talking crap about it on a Bills fan site yesterday. Nothing worse then a fan going to a rival fans page and talking smack about their "favorite" team.  So disgusting in my opinion. No offense. 

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1 minute ago, Augustiniak said:

seriously.  who cares what the coverage was.  they left him alone vs a guy who could beat him, and probably most cbs.  savvier defensive minds would have given the cb help.

Better CB's would not let a guy run right by him.  Revis didn't respect the guy and he paid for it.

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2 minutes ago, choon328 said:

-The Bills scoring 34 is a joke bc they only scored 31.

-If you watched that game last night and came away with the impression that the Bills offense beat up the Jets defense then IDK what you were watching. 

-The Jets made a huge stop mid way thru the 4th quarter on 4th and 1. Does that not count as a big, late stop? 

-As far as the end of the game the Jets were up two scores and had been beaten by the big play twice already. There is no way you play aggressive at that point based on what happened earlier.  You just want them to kill time marching down the field and then make it difficult in the redzone. Normally I hate prevent but earlier moments in the game dictated that strategy. 

-And I know you don't like the defense. I saw you talking crap about it on a Bills fan site yesterday. Nothing worse then a fan going to a rival fans page and talking smack about their "favorite" team.  So disgusting in my opinion. No offense. 

LOL  Tyrod Taylor 300 yards passing and 3 tds. including two long long long ones.

You don't play aggressive stupid you play aggressive smart and certainly not passive.  The prevent defense is idiotic because you let the other team score, very quickly with no resistance  at all.  they had a shot at a short kick.

Are you saying our defense good at this point?  Are you saying that we were good vs buffalo last year?  Buffalo with a very suspect Qb and no legit WR's almost beat us the one and only thing that saved the day was our offense was great.

Our defense at this point is hugely overrated and you just proved my [point by defending it after yesterdays game.

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7 minutes ago, choon328 said:

-The Bills scoring 34 is a joke bc they only scored 31.

-If you watched that game last night and came away with the impression that the Bills offense beat up the Jets defense then IDK what you were watching. 

-The Jets made a huge stop mid way thru the 4th quarter on 4th and 1. Does that not count as a big, late stop? 

-As far as the end of the game the Jets were up two scores and had been beaten by the big play twice already. There is no way you play aggressive at that point based on what happened earlier.  You just want them to kill time marching down the field and then make it difficult in the redzone. Normally I hate prevent but earlier moments in the game dictated that strategy. 

-And I know you don't like the defense. I saw you talking crap about it on a Bills fan site yesterday. Nothing worse then a fan going to a rival fans page and talking smack about their "favorite" team.  So disgusting in my opinion. No offense. 

Good points

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Look forward to your post KRL.  Nice post as always.

 

I thought Revis played well after getting burned.  I think that part of the issue with Revis is he was not able to condition himself in off season like he is accustom to. I also think he is playing to far off the WR while he is great at jamming at line of scrimmage, this is more of scheme thing that does not fit him as well.

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My observations from last night:

- When you have 30 foot tall WR's who are child eating monsters, you get them the ball as much as possible.

- The OL was very good last night.  Great push on some short yardage plays, solid protection, loved to see the depth and no drop off with Carpenter out.  Very good sign with some of the D's they face in the upcoming weeks.

- Forte glides and showed some good power last night fighting for the extra yards.  That said, he cannot continue to get 30 carries a night.  It's not necessary.  Powell is a very capable back and they should be trying to save Forte.

- In addition to the DL being the nastiest of nasty, they're pretty damn deep.  Jarvis Jenkins gave some solid minutes last night and week 1's superstar, McLendon was a ghost.  Crazy depth.  Nice to see.

- Skrine and Williams were on point.  Hopefully Revis decides to care at some point.  If that day comes, the Jets might actually have a nice D.

- Bowles has some serious game management issues.  It worries me that his ineptitude could cost us a game.

- The Bills suck something awful and that should not have been a close game.  They tried go Bengals on us, luckily we decided to use our child eating monster WR's this game. 

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7 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

LOL  Tyrod Taylor 300 yards passing and 3 tds. including two long long long ones.

You don't play aggressive stupid you play aggressive smart and certainly not passive.  The prevent defense is idiotic because you let the other team score, very quickly with no resistance  at all.  they had a shot at a short kick.

Are you saying our defense good at this point?  Are you saying that we were good vs buffalo last year?  Buffalo with a very suspect Qb and no legit WR's almost beat us the one and only thing that saved the day was our offense was great.

Our defense at this point is hugely overrated and you just proved my [point by defending it after yesterdays game.

Did you watch the game? Run back to your Bills site and find out how many people think Tyrod had a good game.  Eff the numbers. The radio hosts up here are the most homeristic professionals I've ever listened to and 99% are absolutely killing Tyrod today. I'm not saying the Jets are great on defense at this point but they are not as bad as you are suggesting. The prevent defenses purpose is to keep things in front of you to avoid quick strikes. Thats what they were trying to do. Where they failed was in the redzone on the Gillislee TD.  Thats the only time I was annoyed at Lee.  He and another player had a shot to take him down around the 3 yard line and they didn't. 

 

The play where Revis got beat was all on Revis.  The Bills tried the exact same play later to Goodwin and Revis was right with him.  There is no excuse for the first TD.  The 2nd long one was a broken play.  Tyrod had 6.5 seconds to throw the ball. Thats not on the secondary, thats on the pass rushers.  Julian Stanford had a chance to end that play and he got juked out of his jock. That play is all on him in my opinion.  

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39 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I wonder what kind of grade PFF will give Skrine for last night's game, eh @CrazyCarl40:)

He had a good grade, possibly for the first time ever. He played solidly last night. He should play solidly much more consistently given the fact that he's paid so much. Although, let's be honest, he wasn't facing any healthy, above average wide receivers last night. I hope he can keep it up because given the inconsistency of Williams and the decline of Revis, they need him to perform to his contract.

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