Which JN Poster Would make the best GM and why?

[Thai Jet]

1 hour ago, Smashmouth said:

with all the FA's is it still a position of need ? Didnt think so.

You're too much. Give it up already . Can't admit even now that Kiper was right, little man, as we needed CB's and it was, at the time, a position of need.

You kept arguing that we had CB's. We did not, that's why we signed 2 FA ones so far. 

[Maxman]

I am offended I got no votes. I would be a great GM. We would go back to the glory days of the 70's and 80's. Clean bathrooms for all the fans and terrible head coaches.

Keep voting for @T0mShane the only thing he will bring is glory holes for the bathrooms.

[SoFlaJets]

The Soothsayer-I mean look at his brilliant work jettisoning all the losers from JI

[jgb]

Candidates: You now have the #3 pick. Who do you select??

[munchmemory]

On 3/17/2018 at 12:09 AM, SoFlaJets said:

The Soothsayer-I mean look at his brilliant work jettisoning all the losers from JI

I say we instead go with The Stoolsprayer (yes, that's a real poster).  I really enjoy his unique brand of irreverence.

[#27TheDominator]

On 3/16/2018 at 8:09 AM, TeddEY said:

Also, I’d guess the majority of posters today don’t know who Arsis is.

Do they know who @NotNotArsis is? 

[T0mShane]

On 3/17/2018 at 12:47 PM, jgb said:

Candidates: You now have the #3 pick. Who do you select??

Here’s what I do: I draft Baker Mayfield this year and then I say, “Todd, I’m leaving it up to you who to start and play. It’s all in your hands,” Then I wait until the night before minicamp and I trade McCown to the Jaguars, eating up that $5 mil cap hit for his signing bonus. Todd will freak out, but I calm him down by telling him that we want to give a chance to Teddy because if he comes around it’ll give us a lot of leverage in trades next offseason, and I remind him that Deone Buccanon will likely be available as a free agent. As he starts getting more and more pissed, I’d start singing “SevenNationArmy” but I’d replace “Seven nation army” with “De-own-ay boo-can-non” and he’d chill out and calm down. Then we’d get into training camp and I’d wait until Christian Hackenberg threw his first incompletion and I’d walk right out onto the field and take his helmet away from him, and I’d make a little speech to him like Leonidas in 300 where he tells the misshapen birth defect guy that he can’t be in the Spartan army because he can’t get the shield all the way up over his head which compromises the phalanx. And then Hack would be cut on the spot, but in order to not embarrass Hackenberg and to teach the team about the importance of teamwork, I’d cut Chad Hansen, too. Not that Hansen would deserve it, but it’d be important to stress that one man’s failures are the team’s failures, and that GM Tom will come, not just for you, but for the thing you love the most. We’d stress teamwork and excellence under my regime. The next morning, I’d give Baker Mayfield the number 12 jersey. Sure, it’d upset Namath, but I’d call a press conference to remind everyone that Joe Namath is both the beloved shining avatar of the Jets franchise, AND also spent a significant portion of his life as a bisexual, mobbed-up alcoholic who would have been destroyed by Christian Conservatives, TMZ, Eric Schneiderman, and the #MeToo movement if he was playing today. It’d be a real subtle message to Baker to watch his ass while at the same time hearkening back to the glory days of the Jets franchise. Brilliant, IMO. Then, as training camp was going on, I’d head down to Oklahoma to go deer hunting with Mike Gundy where we’d kill a buck and I’d post a picture on my Insta of me and Mike Gundy stoned on shwag and hammered on some okie moonshine, covered in deer blood and laughing our asses off, and I’d hashtag it “#BloodBrothers #LOL #20thCenturyFootball #GreatCoach #****Nature” Then I’d come back and check the stats from our first three preseason games and if Baker Mayfield was within 80 points of Teddy Bridgewater’s QBR, I’d cut Teddy and leak a rumor that he’s secretly missing a leg and what you’re seeing is actually a next-gen prosthesis. So the QB room would just be Baker and Petty, which is fine. Sure, Todd would be upset, but I’d calm his nerves by leaving a bloody deer head on his desk. 

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Here’s what I do: I draft Baker Mayfield this year and then I say, “Todd, I’m leaving it up to you who to start and play. It’s all in your hands,” Then I wait until the night before minicamp and I trade McCown to the Jaguars, eating up that $5 mil cap hit for his signing bonus. Todd will freak out, but I calm him down by telling him that we want to give a chance to Teddy because if he comes around it’ll give us a lot of leverage in trades next offseason, and I remind him that Deone Buccanon will likely be available as a free agent. As he starts getting more and more pissed, I’d start singing “SevenNationArmy” but I’d replace “Seven nation army” with “De-own-ay boo-can-non” and he’d chill out and calm down. Then we’d get into training camp and I’d wait until Christian Hackenberg threw his first incompletion and I’d walk right out onto the field and take his helmet away from him, and I’d make a little speech to him like Leonidas in 300 where he tells the misshapen birth defect guy that he can’t be in the Spartan army because he can’t get the shield all the way up over his head which compromises the phalanx. And then Hack would be cut on the spot, but in order to not embarrass Hackenberg and to teach the team about the importance of teamwork, I’d cut Chad Hansen, too. Not that Hansen would deserve it, but it’d be important to stress that one man’s failures are the team’s failures, and that GM Tom will come, not just for you, but for the thing you love the most. We’d stress teamwork and excellence under my regime. The next morning, I’d give Baker Mayfield the number 12 jersey. Sure, it’d upset Namath, but I’d call a press conference to remind everyone that Joe Namath is both the beloved shining avatar of the Jets franchise, AND also spent a significant portion of his life as a bisexual, mobbed-up alcoholic who would have been destroyed by Christian Conservatives, TMZ, Eric Schneiderman, and the #MeToo movement if he was playing today. It’d be a real subtle message to Baker to watch his ass while at the same time hearkening back to the glory days of the Jets franchise. Brilliant, IMO. Then, as training camp was going on, I’d head down to Oklahoma to go deer hunting with Mike Gundy where we’d kill a buck and I’d post a picture on my Insta of me and Mike Gundy stoned on shwag and hammered on some okie moonshine, covered in deer blood and laughing our asses off, and I’d hashtag it “#BloodBrothers #LOL #20thCenturyFootball #GreatCoach #****Nature” Then I’d come back and check the stats from our first three preseason games and if Baker Mayfield was within 80 points of Teddy Bridgewater’s QBR, I’d cut Teddy and leak a rumor that he’s secretly missing a leg and what you’re seeing is actually a next-gen prosthesis. So the QB room would just be Baker and Petty, which is fine. Sure, Todd would be upset, but I’d calm his nerves by leaving a bloody deer head on his desk. 

I'll take Trying Too Hard for $400, Alex.  

[Sperm Edwards]

As far as the question what any of us would do now, why are we forced into the handicap of an arbitrary starting point of whatever Maccagnan has and has not done so far this year?

A major part of the handicap is not knowing exactly why he only traded up to #3 in the first place. Did Cle/NYG want a little more, a lot more, or did they hang up the phone because no way they're giving up the slot no matter what was offered short of 4 #1 picks, a lung, and a testicle? The answer to all these questions may change the past and future decisions. Further, did he trade away a trio of #2s because that's the only offer Indy would accept, or were they willing to accept a player substitution as well? 

Why do we have to start after paying Josh McCown that stupid contract instead of overpaying a 26 year-old all-pro guard by the same amount over the next 4-5 years? We were allegedly the highest bidder, but how much higher were we? If we were outbidding the winner by $500K/year, where $1-2m/year higher would have done it, I'd do that 10x out of 10 instead of wasting ~$10m of cap room on McCown. If he's worth anywhere near that as a mentor then create a mentor/QBC2 position on the coaching staff, and pay him $6-10m of Woody's money to do that off the cap, off the roster, and with zero injury risk to the player. If he's worth it as a mentor-player then he's worth it as a mentor-QBC because he's less than worthless (to us) as a player.

Even Bridgewater's contract should have come with a 2nd option year. Make it worth his while, where year 2 is $10m base (as in, if he never starts a game) and if he reaches the same NLTBE incentives built into his current 1-year deal it also kicks in a $12m bonus for 2019 ($22m total). Again, it's all a team option so whether he reaches all or none of these incentives we can still opt out with no financial ties. Doing this not only gives the team greater flexibility if their draftee is an ability or injury bust, but his trade value between this summer and the late-Oct trade deadline is worth that much more. 

Why do we have to start after passing up on established FA TEs, followed shortly thereafter by wiping out a pair of 2nd rounders which were probably where we'd look to draft one?

[Patriot Killa]

On 3/16/2018 at 9:52 AM, JiF said:

Whofans has more votes than me?

shut this trolly ass thread down immediately!!!

I hate you all!!  You’re all fired!!!

The truth hurts.

[UnitedWhofans]

Just now, Sperm Edwards said:

As far as the question what any of us would do now, why are we forced into the handicap of an arbitrary starting point of whatever Maccagnan has and has not done so far this year?

A major part of the handicap is not knowing exactly why he only traded up to #3 in the first place. Did Cle/NYG want a little more, a lot more, or did they hang up the phone because no way they're giving up the slot no matter what was offered short of 4 #1 picks, a lung, and a testicle? The answer to all these questions may change the past and future decisions. Further, did he trade away a trio of #2s because that's the only offer Indy would accept, or were they willing to accept a player substitution as well? 

Why do we have to start after paying Josh McCown that stupid contract instead of overpaying a 26 year-old all-pro guard by the same amount over the next 4-5 years? We were allegedly the highest bidder, but how much higher were we? If we were outbidding the winner by $500K/year, where $1-2m/year higher would have done it, I'd do that 10x out of 10 instead of wasting ~$10m of cap room on McCown. If he's worth anywhere near that as a mentor then create a mentor/QBC2 position on the coaching staff, and pay him $6-10m of Woody's money to do that off the cap, off the roster, and with zero injury risk to the player. If he's worth it as a mentor-player then he's worth it as a mentor-QBC because he's less than worthless (to us) as a player.

Even Bridgewater's contract should have come with a 2nd option year. Make it worth his while, where year 2 is $10m base (as in, if he never starts a game) and if he reaches the same NLTBE incentives built into his current 1-year deal it also kicks in a $12m bonus for 2019 ($22m total). Again, it's all a team option so whether he reaches all or none of these incentives we can still opt out with no financial ties. Doing this not only gives the team greater flexibility if their draftee is an ability or injury bust, but his trade value between this summer and the late-Oct trade deadline is worth that much more. 

Why do we have to start after passing up on established FA TEs, followed shortly thereafter by wiping out a pair of 2nd rounders which were probably where we'd look to draft one?

1. Apparently the Browns are saying no to everybody and the Giants might not want to help the Jets at all.

2. I just put that down to the natural inflation of FA. I look at Arizona who paid Sam Bradford 20m. I would rather have McCown at 10m than Bradford at 20. Plus, in terms of the guard, the main problem last year was the center. That switch alone could impact everybody else.

3. As for Bridgewater, they can actually franchise him and their cap space would allow it. 

4. I actually am a fan of the TEs they have right now; Sterling and Tomlinson. If they want to get a veteran, go ahead.

[Sully80]

I wouldn't have let A-rob go to the bears

[Sperm Edwards]

19 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said:

1. Apparently the Browns are saying no to everybody and the Giants might not want to help the Jets at all.

2. I just put that down to the natural inflation of FA. I look at Arizona who paid Sam Bradford 20m. I would rather have McCown at 10m than Bradford at 20. Plus, in terms of the guard, the main problem last year was the center. That switch alone could impact everybody else.

3. As for Bridgewater, they can actually franchise him and their cap space would allow it. 

4. I actually am a fan of the TEs they have right now; Sterling and Tomlinson. If they want to get a veteran, go ahead.

Fun fact:

I wasn't talking to you

Fun fact #2:

Your ridiculous answers highlight why I wasn't talking to you.

[UnitedWhofans]

6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Fun fact:

I wasn't talking to you. 

Fun Fact:

 

There you go

[Tinstar]

11 minutes ago, Sully80 said:

I wouldn't have let A-rob go to the bears

You do know that kidnapping is a criminal act right .  @Sully80

[Sully80]

1 minute ago, Tinstar said:

You do know that kidnapping is a criminal act right .  @Sully80

1T1G

[SouthernJet]

which QB is the best at being able to go thru 3-4 progressions and at same time have pocket presense to manuever in that 1 to 1 1/2 step circle to buy time in pocket to get to that 3rd/4th option

[SouthernJet]

where is the Soothsprayer as far as potential GMs?

Calling the Soothsprayer, aisle G, Florham Park. 

OK, cleanup Aisle G, Florham Park.

[JustInFudge]

On 3/17/2018 at 12:47 PM, jgb said:

Candidates: You now have the #3 pick. Who do you select??

BAP

[T0mShane]

49 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

I'll take Trying Too Hard for $400, Alex.  

Objectively speaking, I know that post is horrible, but I still might crochet it into a pillow because it cracked me up (I’m a shut-in)

48 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

As far as the question what any of us would do now, why are we forced into the handicap of an arbitrary starting point of whatever Maccagnan has and has not done so far this year?

A major part of the handicap is not knowing exactly why he only traded up to #3 in the first place. Did Cle/NYG want a little more, a lot more, or did they hang up the phone because no way they're giving up the slot no matter what was offered short of 4 #1 picks, a lung, and a testicle? The answer to all these questions may change the past and future decisions. Further, did he trade away a trio of #2s because that's the only offer Indy would accept, or were they willing to accept a player substitution as well? 

Why do we have to start after paying Josh McCown that stupid contract instead of overpaying a 26 year-old all-pro guard by the same amount over the next 4-5 years? We were allegedly the highest bidder, but how much higher were we? If we were outbidding the winner by $500K/year, where $1-2m/year higher would have done it, I'd do that 10x out of 10 instead of wasting ~$10m of cap room on McCown. If he's worth anywhere near that as a mentor then create a mentor/QBC2 position on the coaching staff, and pay him $6-10m of Woody's money to do that off the cap, off the roster, and with zero injury risk to the player. If he's worth it as a mentor-player then he's worth it as a mentor-QBC because he's less than worthless (to us) as a player.

Even Bridgewater's contract should have come with a 2nd option year. Make it worth his while, where year 2 is $10m base (as in, if he never starts a game) and if he reaches the same NLTBE incentives built into his current 1-year deal it also kicks in a $12m bonus for 2019 ($22m total). Again, it's all a team option so whether he reaches all or none of these incentives we can still opt out with no financial ties. Doing this not only gives the team greater flexibility if their draftee is an ability or injury bust, but his trade value between this summer and the late-Oct trade deadline is worth that much more. 

Why do we have to start after passing up on established FA TEs, followed shortly thereafter by wiping out a pair of 2nd rounders which were probably where we'd look to draft one?

Supposedly, the Browns keep getting calls from a bunch of teams but they won’t let the #1 go. You’ve got Dorsey, McLoughan and Parcells making the calls over there, so we can expect some weirdness. Parcells supposedly was hosting Darnold and Allen at some retreat a few weeks back. 

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, JiF said:

BAP

Pathetic. This is why WhoFans is beating you

[JustInFudge]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Pathetic. This is why WhoFans is beating you

hahaha - too easy

[JustInFudge]

I'm taking Darnold or Rosen, guys.  Dont worry.  Preferably Rosen.  @Lupz27

[jetstream23]

17 minutes ago, JiF said:

BAP

That's kinda how we ended up the 4 defensive linemen drafted in Round 1 over the past 7 years, right?  Coples, Wilkerson, Richardson, Leo Williams.  If the BAP when you pick every year just happens to play the same position do you continue to take him?

And, I'm typically a BAP enthusiast all the time, but I think we need to bend occasionally. 

[jetstream23]

KRL looks like he'd have at least 9 votes already if he was an option.

 

[JustInFudge]

2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

That's kinda how we ended up the 4 defensive linemen drafted in Round 1 over the past 7 years, right?  Coples, Wilkerson, Richardson, Leo Williams.  If the BAP when you pick every year just happens to play the same position do you continue to take him?

And, I'm typically a BAP enthusiast all the time, but I think we need to bend occasionally. 

Safeties too, yes, that was the joke. 

[Sperm Edwards]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Objectively speaking, I know that post is horrible, but I still might crochet it into a pillow because it cracked me up (I’m a shut-in)

Supposedly, the Browns keep getting calls from a bunch of teams but they won’t let the #1 go. You’ve got Dorsey, McLoughan and Parcells making the calls over there, so we can expect some weirdness. Parcells supposedly was hosting Darnold and Allen at some retreat a few weeks back. 

Parcells? Oh why didn't you say so. Nothing to worry about right now, then. They're not drafting a QB. On draft day they're going to trade down from #1 and draft a LB they'll never play. 

And no worries. Some - ok, many - of my own lengthy ramblings are for myself and no one else. Yes, I'm that self-absorbed. 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Parcells? Oh why didn't you say so. Nothing to worry about right now, then. They're not drafting a QB. On draft day they're going to trade down from #1 and draft a LB they'll never play. 

And no worries. Some - ok, many - of my own lengthy ramblings are for myself and no one else. Yes, I'm that self-absorbed. 

I, too, found it amusing that the Browns had recruited Parcells to help them find a QB. 

[Jetster]

14 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I, too, found it amusing that the Browns had recruited Parcells to help them find a QB. 

With Parcells involved I'm surprised Darnold didn't announce he was heading back to school.

[Sperm Edwards]

1 minute ago, Jetster said:

With Parcells involved I'm surprised Darnold didn't announce he was heading back to school.

Damn, this is the joke I was shooting for.

A+

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Damn, this is the joke I was shooting for.

A+

 

4 minutes ago, Jetster said:

With Parcells involved I'm surprised Darnold didn't announce he was heading back to school.

Parcells, like Idzik, has brought success everywhere he’s been. 

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

On 3/16/2018 at 9:16 PM, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

...

 

 

Kinda threw the baby out with the bath water there, Phil.

[bealeb319]

Patsfantx still a jner or did he get banned again?

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[BROOKLYN JET]

@SenorGato because the script.

[Jack Straw]

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