sec101row23 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The fire sale continues for the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Giant pride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 5th seems about right , but it’s crazy how big names go for such low picks in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Anthony Jet said: 5th seems about right , but it’s crazy how big names go for such low picks in the NFL Amari Cooper got a first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Wow major fire sale going on there. Vernon may be the next to go. He will be harder to move due to age and salary though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Barkus said: Wow major fire sale going on there. Vernon may be the next to go. He will be harder to move due to age and salary though. Ironically the Jets are one of the teams that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Giants being smart. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 This is the smart thing to do. It's also something the Jets have never had the courage to do at anytime in their history--shift to a rebuilding strategy mid-season--which is one of the reason's why the team went decades without a franchise quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Lions looking to improve on that NFL worst 5.3 rushing yards against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Too bad the jets are never smart enough to do things like this and try to eek out meaningless wins in lost seasons year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Giants beginning the tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 What would it take cap wise to inquire about Vernon??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said: This is the smart thing to do. It's also something the Jets have never had the courage to do at anytime in their history--shift to a rebuilding strategy mid-season--which is one of the reason's why the team went decades without a franchise quarterback. I dont know if most teams would do this anyway. I think this is a recent phenomena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The Giants are doing what they should have done last year. The bad news is that there's no light at the end of the tunnel at QB whether it be in draft or free agency for them. The quarterbacks this season aren't even in the same stratosphere and Herbert is likely to head back to school. So they will spin this wheel forever until they find one.... see: our Jets P.S. Thanks again for Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, JiF said: What would it take cap wise to inquire about Vernon??? We have enough space. The question is whether the Giants would deal with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Morons!!! Their arrogant management finally opened their eyes and noticed that their team is a train wreck??? They've wasted two years and passed up on a much stronger QB class. They have plenty of pain still coming their way and they're in for a rude awakening if they think it's so easy to find a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, JiF said: What would it take cap wise to inquire about Vernon??? Nothing to inquire, to get him 17m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: 5th seems about right , but it’s crazy how big names go for such low picks in the NFL It's age and salary. Dude's making close to $10M this year and is owed another $16M over the next two. That's gonna drop the price for a 30-year-old player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, JiF said: What would it take cap wise to inquire about Vernon??? His base is $12MM this season, plus he is due over $15MM each of the next two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 This is how you tank Would trade a first for Barkley, he is a Jets fan and >>>> Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Already brought up in this thread but the Giants are doing what the Jets should've done two years ago. The fact that we let Decker, Marshall, Forte, etc...walk and got nothing back was criminal. The whole idea of trying to salvage the 2015 season and basically bring that whole team back was just a huge mistake. With that being said, the Giants are now trying to clean up the fact that they made a huge mistake not drafting a QB and ultimately we'll see how this pans out for them. Too bad the Giants would never trade with us, I'd love to poach a couple of guys off that roster like Sterling Sheppard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Not sure Vernon makes sense anymore - 2019 draft is supposedly loaded with DE and OLB - the year of the pass rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 What the NYG have done the past two years is "team malpractice" and they should be destroyed for it not applauded: - They hired an awful HC who couldn't last two years - They benched their 37 year old QB (rightfully so) then screwed it up by listening to the "whining" of their fans and put him back in. Never seeing if Davis Webb was anything - They refused to believe that 2017 was a true indication of the team they had - They believed an end of season meaningless game against PHI was proof Manning "still had it" - They believed Flowers was a starting OT - They made Solder (an average LT) the highest paid OT in the league - They passed on a very good QB class and drafted a RB - They loaded up on over the hill free agents like Johnathan Stewart and Connor Barwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Nothing to inquire, to get him 17m Dang, that's what he's making 17 mil? Those pass rushers must be important. Wonder if the Jets ever get one of those guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, Lith said: His base is $12MM this season, plus he is due over $15MM each of the next two seasons. Ewww...that's a lot. He's pretty freaking good though. Not sure it's worth it though, especially with a deep draft class at pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I did NOT see that one coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: Already brought up in this thread but the Giants are doing what the Jets should've done two years ago. The fact that we let Decker, Marshall, Forte, etc...walk and got nothing back was criminal. The whole idea of trying to salvage the 2015 season and basically bring that whole team back was just a huge mistake. With that being said, the Giants are now trying to clean up the fact that they made a huge mistake not drafting a QB and ultimately we'll see how this pans out for them. Too bad the Giants would never trade with us, I'd love to poach a couple of guys off that roster like Sterling Sheppard. Um you do realize that Decker, Marhsall and Forte all couldnt play and had no value in the league and Snacks has a ton of value? Personally I think a 5th round pick is low. Snacks has 2 years on his contract $6.75 in 2019 and $9 million in 2020 and the 2020 number only has $1.6 of dead money. The guy is 29 and PFF has him as the #4 run defender. This was a steal for the Lions and if I was a HC that needed defensive help Id be unhappy with my GM for not pushing the envelope here. Vernon has a $19 million cap number each of the next 2 years but in 2020 there is only $4 million of dead money. The bigger issue with him is production as he had 5.5 sacks last season and isnt necessarily an elite player at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 45 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: 5th seems about right , but it’s crazy how big names go for such low picks in the NFL Run stuffing defensive tackles just aren't that valuable in today's pass first NFL. Harrison is more loved on this forum than just about anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Smart moves by the Giants to start a rebuild. At their pace they will get a top 3 pick. They may be the lucky ones who get a top QB prospect to go along side Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, KRL said: What the NYG have done the past two years is "team malpractice" and they should be destroyed for it not applauded: - They hired an awful HC who couldn't last two years - They benched their 37 year old QB (rightfully so) then screwed it up by listening to the "whining" of their fans and put him back in. Never seeing if Davis Webb was anything - They refused to believe that 2017 was a true indication of the team they had - They believed an end of season meaningless game against PHI was proof Manning "still had it" - They believed Flowers was a starting OT - They made Solder (an average LT) the highest paid OT in the league - They passed on a very good QB class and drafted a RB - They loaded up on over the hill free agents like Johnathan Stewart and Connor Barwin This past offseason was criminal. Just about every move, from giving odell and solder huge contracts to passing on Darnold were just awful. But at least they are finally doing things right. The big question is whether they can unload Odell because I can't see him being able to function through a rebuild. This is not going to be fixed overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Yes the Giants are geniuses now. I’m sure those 4th and 5th round picks will be game changers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, BCJet said: Um you do realize that Decker, Marhsall and Forte all couldnt play and had no value in the league and Snacks has a ton of value? Personally I think a 5th round pick is low. Snacks has 2 years on his contract $6.75 in 2019 and $9 million in 2020 and the 2020 number only has $1.6 of dead money. The guy is 29 and PFF has him as the #4 run defender. This was a steal for the Lions and if I was a HC that needed defensive help Id be unhappy with my GM for not pushing the envelope here. Vernon has a $19 million cap number each of the next 2 years but in 2020 there is only $4 million of dead money. The bigger issue with him is production as he had 5.5 sacks last season and isnt necessarily an elite player at this point. I'm not saying we would've gotten first rd. picks back for them but even getting 5th-6th rd picks to move them to a contending team you would think would've been a possibility, I think it came down to the fact that we just didn't want to admit who we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Giants beginning the tank Didn't they begin the tank by losing 6 out of their first 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Giants are making sure they secure that first overall pick without even having to trade up. They are the new Cleveland Browns with all these tops picks every yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 What is the flag carrying example of a team that sells off pieces as a tank job that results in a SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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