NYJ1 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Just starters, not role players. Now, I'm calling punter a starters job for the sake of this discussion, but I obviously wouldn't put as much weight on Punter as I would QB. With that said, I think JD got us 3 opening day starters. Becton, Mims, and Mann. I also believe those 3 are legitimate starters. Example, in 2016 Darron Lee was made a day one starter. Not because he earned the opportunity to start. The fact is he sucked as a player. He just got day one starter because he was the most talented on a very untalented roster. The difference here is Becton, Mims, and Mann will all emerge from an objective competition in training camp. Mac didn't give a sh*t about conducting objective competition and Toilet made players starters based solely on draft position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted April 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2020 I’d add James Morgan so four. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Probably 3. Becton, Mims and Mann are all highly likely. Mims may be listed as #3 but he will see the field a lot. Mann is a certainty. Davis, Zuniga, Perine and Hall will probably be rotational guys. Clark and Morgan will be backups who shouldn't see the field if all goes to plan. Morgan will probably be #3. He's a ways away from playing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Zuniga will definitely start by default 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I'd guess four. Hopefully it's all of 'em except Morgan. Becton, Mims, Clark, Hall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: Just starters, not role players. Now, I'm calling punter a starters job for the sake of this discussion, but I obviously wouldn't put as much weight on Punter as I would QB. With that said, I think JD got us 3 opening day starters. Becton, Mims, and Mann. I also believe those 3 are legitimate starters. Example, in 2016 Darron Lee was made a day one starter. Not because he earned the opportunity to start. The fact is he sucked as a player. He just got day one starter because he was the most talented on a very untalented roster. The difference here is Becton, Mims, and Mann will all emerge from an objective competition in training camp. Mac didn't give a sh*t about conducting objective competition and Toilet made players starters based solely on draft position. I'll raise you two.....Zuniga and Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 Becton, Mims, davis, Mann. Davis might not start this year but I expect him to contributeSent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Mann will have the biggest impact. He’s a game changer. Perine will be next followed by Becton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web72 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 MT Becton , Mims , Mann and I think there’s a very good chance Hall will be starting opening day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: Just starters, not role players. Now, I'm calling punter a starters job for the sake of this discussion, but I obviously wouldn't put as much weight on Punter as I would QB. With that said, I think JD got us 3 opening day starters. Becton, Mims, and Mann. I also believe those 3 are legitimate starters. Example, in 2016 Darron Lee was made a day one starter. Not because he earned the opportunity to start. The fact is he sucked as a player. He just got day one starter because he was the most talented on a very untalented roster. The difference here is Becton, Mims, and Mann will all emerge from an objective competition in training camp. Mac didn't give a sh*t about conducting objective competition and Toilet made players starters based solely on draft position. I’ll say 3, with it possibly being 5 should Mims, and the edge dude can prove they can contribute year 1. I think Becton starts somewhere, The Punter, and the Safety will also be playing, he may not start, but will IMO be on all specials, and in Nickel, and Dime sub packages. Very solid draft with the possibility of coming away with 1-2 future all pro guys, and hopefully A LOT of contributors, which I can definitely see from at least 5 of these guys hopefully more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KRL Posted April 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2020 With all the personnel packages that teams run I don't think in terms of starters I think in terms of "contributors". And to me the players that should get significant reps are: Becton - should be "starting" LT Mims - should be in multiple WR sets Davis - should be in multiple DB sets and every special team unit Zuniga - should be in pressure packages Perine - could be the #2 RB Mann - should be the "starting" punter and KO specialist Wilson - could be the #2 CB (since we traded a 6th rounder for him he's included) But Gase better learn from the Kalil fiasco no one should be given a job, they have to earn it 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3....Becton, Mims and the punter. I expect to see Davis running around on most special teams plays as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Can we count UDFA's? Jackson, the DT from Coastal Carolina( and Clemson transfer) who will bump Q?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: Zuniga will definitely start by default Was just thinking that absent a late Clowney signing Zuniga should get a chance to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Clark can compete to start at multiple positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I’d add James Morgan so four. Will it be due to syphilis or the rona? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Zuniga will definitely start by default I have a feeling he becomes a rotational defensive lineman in Greg Williams system. I think he contributes but doesn't start if he finishes the season with 30 percent snaps played on defense with 4-5 sacks I'd be happySent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, KRL said: With all the personnel packages that teams run I don't think in terms of starters I think in terms of "contributors". And to me the players that should get significant reps are: Becton - should be "starting" LT Mims - should be in multiple WR sets Davis - should be in multiple DB sets and every special team unit Zuniga - should be in pressure packages Perine - could be the #2 RB Mann - should be the "starting" punter and KO specialist Wilson - could be the #2 CB (since we traded a 6th rounder for him he's included) But Gase better learn from the Kalil fiasco no one should be given a job, they have to earn it I think the Kalil situation was different. They paid him a lot of money and brought him in to be a starter. He had to give him some time to round back into shape before he decided to pull the plug. None of the guys coming in are getting paid like that or are counted on to be a savior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 The safety will be a starter by half way through the year after maye gets benched. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 He grabbed one sure starter and one potential starter in the fifth and sixth rounds. Even if one's a punter, that's pretty damn good. Becton's a sure-fire Day One starter, as the #11 pick in the draft should be. If Mims isn't starting on opening day, he'll be on the field and will be a starter by mid-season. I would not sleep on Hall beating out the CBs on this team for a starting slot. I'd expect everyone except the QB and G/T to get significant playing time but, if they have the same kind of year they had last year, every one of them could get on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, KRL said: With all the personnel packages that teams run I don't think in terms of starters I think in terms of "contributors". And to me the players that should get significant reps are: Becton - should be "starting" LT Mims - should be in multiple WR sets Davis - should be in multiple DB sets and every special team unit Zuniga - should be in pressure packages Perine - could be the #2 RB Mann - should be the "starting" punter and KO specialist Wilson - could be the #2 CB (since we traded a 6th rounder for him he's included) But Gase better learn from the Kalil fiasco no one should be given a job, they have to earn it Quincy Wilson is not starting unless something has gone badly wrong. Austin showed more last year in his limited time than Wilson ever has. And that was coming in mid season with no preparation or preseason. Can’t see how he isn’t a starter opening day unless there’s an injury. Wilson should be far down the depth chart. He’ll be competing with Hall for the #4 spot IMO. And I’d back Hall. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prez33 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, KRL said: With all the personnel packages that teams run I don't think in terms of starters I think in terms of "contributors". And to me the players that should get significant reps are: Becton - should be "starting" LT Mims - should be in multiple WR sets Davis - should be in multiple DB sets and every special team unit Zuniga - should be in pressure packages Perine - could be the #2 RB Mann - should be the "starting" punter and KO specialist Wilson - could be the #2 CB (since we traded a 6th rounder for him he's included) But Gase better learn from the Kalil fiasco no one should be given a job, they have to earn it This^^^ ”Starters” doesn’t capture how they’ll be used. I think Zuniga is going to be on the field more on third down for the pass rushing skills. Same thing with S/CB Davis in nickel/dime role. Every down players appear to be Becton and possibly Mims. Of course, Mann will be the punter. This guy won the Ray Guy award in college football. Don’t underestimate the value of a punter! How many times have we seen the Jets get burned by a crappy 25 yard punt late in the game to give the opposing team great field position? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The safety will be a starter by half way through the year after maye gets benched. You mean he will be the starter half way though the year after Maye gets injured. Again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: I have a feeling he becomes a rotational defensive lineman in Greg Williams system. I think he contributes but doesn't start if he finishes the season with 30 percent snaps played on defense with 4-5 sacks I'd be happy Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Same here I don't envision Zuniga being a starter just a rotational DL,OLB used on obvious passing downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScarletKnight89 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 In a perfect world 1. Mekhi Becton- LT 2. Denzel Mims- WR 1 3. Ashtyn Davis (Next year)- package player this year- FS 4. Bryce Hall- CB 2 5. Cameron Clarke- G or T I guess Braden Mann counts as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Mann is definitely a starter Becton better be a starter. He might not start at LT but he’ll should start somewhere on the OL Davis will be a nickel or dime DB so he’s not The rest I doubt and some of them won’t make the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFan20 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I think you guys are overrated Davis. The kid is an older prospect who doesn’t have a ton of experience. His ceiling to me is an ace special teamed/backup DB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, NYJ1 said: Just starters, not role players. Now, I'm calling punter a starters job for the sake of this discussion, but I obviously wouldn't put as much weight on Punter as I would QB. With that said, I think JD got us 3 opening day starters. Becton, Mims, and Mann. I also believe those 3 are legitimate starters. Example, in 2016 Darron Lee was made a day one starter. Not because he earned the opportunity to start. The fact is he sucked as a player. He just got day one starter because he was the most talented on a very untalented roster. The difference here is Becton, Mims, and Mann will all emerge from an objective competition in training camp. Mac didn't give a sh*t about conducting objective competition and Toilet made players starters based solely on draft position. are we talking day 1 starters? day 1 i say 3 (becton, mims, mann) but eventual starters? i say 5-6 (becton, mims, mann, davis, clark and possibly hall) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, JetFan20 said: I think you guys are overrated Davis. The kid is an older prospect who doesn’t have a ton of experience. His ceiling to me is an ace special teamed/backup DB. Ive read some reviews that thought he was the best safety in the draft and couldnt believe he lasted to the third rd. I guess we will see who is correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: Will it be due to syphilis or the rona? We will probably need a poll as we get closer to the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 44 minutes ago, Alka said: You mean he will be the starter half way though the year after Maye gets injured. Again! injured or benched either or. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Pfft. Seven easily. ... or I am not thinking clearly yet after drinking all that @$@ Patron last night. Time to go back to bed. (Actually. I am lying about going to bed. I fell asleep in my chair watching Youtube highlights for the nine draft picks.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Two... Mims and Mann. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ScarletKnight89 said: In a perfect world 1. Mekhi Becton- LT 2. Denzel Mims- WR 1 3. Ashtyn Davis (Next year)- package player this year- FS 4. Bryce Hall- CB 2 5. Cameron Clarke- G or T I guess Braden Mann counts as well. In a perfect world, Clarke is not starting at Tackle. That means either Becton or Fant got beat out which is not why we drafted one at 11 and signed the other for a pretty good amount. I do think there is an opportunity for him to slide over to Guard, however and be a starter at some point. Van Roten should be a lock at one side, but the other is a battle between Winters and Lewis and I think that's where there is an opportunity to improve. If Clarke turns out to be better than both of them, I'd be thrilled. Then we could look to move Winters and still have adequate depth there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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