Popular Post KRL Posted April 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2020 I did a comparison between Denzel Mims and DK Metcalf because they both had a similar draft experience. Both players are physical freaks who were expected to go in the first round but went late in the second. I was shocked at the results: Mims - 40 games, 186 catches, 15.7 average, 28 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/denzel-mims-1.html Metcalf - 21 games, 67 catches, 18.3 average, 14 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dk-metcalf-1.html Hopefully Mims advantage in experience will prepare him to have a bigger impact in his rookie year than Metcalf did (58 catches, 15.5 average, 7 TD) 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Yeah I felt the same way!!! I was thinking about Metcalf. I know there are some people worried he dropped to 59 but we haves even that a lot of times from good receivers who drop to the second or even third round. Kudos to JD for playing it so well and getting more draft capital to boot!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I did a comparison between Denzel Mims and DK Metcalf because they both had a similar draft experience. Both players are physical freaks who were expected to go in the first round but went late in the second. I was shocked at the results: Mims - 40 games, 186 catches, 15.7 average, 28 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/denzel-mims-1.html Metcalf - 21 games, 67 catches, 18.3 average, 14 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dk-metcalf-1.html Hopefully Mims advantage in experience will prepare him to have a bigger impact in his rookie year than Metcalf did (58 catches, 15.5 average, 7 TD) I am not a huge fan of Metcalf....he dropped a lot of catchable balls last year...but as a jaded jets fan I’d be happy with that production. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RobR Posted April 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, KRL said: I did a comparison between Denzel Mims and DK Metcalf because they both had a similar draft experience. Both players are physical freaks who were expected to go in the first round but went late in the second. I was shocked at the results: Mims - 40 games, 186 catches, 15.7 average, 28 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/denzel-mims-1.html Metcalf - 21 games, 67 catches, 18.3 average, 14 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dk-metcalf-1.html Hopefully Mims advantage in experience will prepare him to have a bigger impact in his rookie year than Metcalf did (58 catches, 15.5 average, 7 TD) I would take Mims over Metcalf every single day of the week. Metcalf is more of a one trick pony that had injury concerns....Mims is a much better all around receiver with a better skillset. 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Embrace the Suck Posted April 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2020 Mims seems to be a guy who fell because the experts over analyzed and picked on the fact that he didn't run a full route tree, plus it was a deep wr draft of course. Presumably, he didn't run a full route tree in college because he wasn't asked to because he was dominate otherwise. Just throw him the damn ball and he goes and gets it. He's going to get plenty of chances to prove himself early. 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, RobR said: I would take Mims over Metcalf every single day of the week. Metcalf is more of a one trick pony that had injury concerns....Mims is a much better all around receiver with a better skillset. I think he mostly meant how he dropped in the draft and despite being a work in progress had good production 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RobR Posted April 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Embrace the Suck said: Mims seems to be a guy who fell because the experts over analyzed and picked on the fact that he didn't run a full route tree, plus it was a deep wr draft of course. He didn't run a full route tree in college because he wasn't asked to because he was dominate otherwise. Just throw him the damn ball and he goes and gets it. He's going to get plenty of chances to prove himself early. The whole doesn't run a full route tree is beyond overblown when it comes to Mims. He tested similarly to Ruggs when it comes to athletic traits and that was on full display at the Senior Bowl. I'm still in shock we traded down and landed him. My last prospect review of him I used the word "smitten" and that's not something I throw around very often. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jets723 said: I think he mostly meant how he dropped in the draft and despite being a work in progress had good production I get it but whenever I think of Metcalf the only thing that runs through my head is run fast, catch ball. Mims is so much more than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 If you're comparing Mims and Metcalf on combine numbers, you can't forget the 3-cone drill. Best-in-the-combine 6.66 for Mims, vs a pretty bad 7.38 for Metcalf (though he's obviously heavier). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, RobR said: I get it but whenever I think of Metcalf the only thing that runs through my head is run fast, catch ball. Mims is so much more than that. I don’t disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted April 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2020 I truly believe Mims is going to be the best receiver from this class. A superior player than Metcalf. Just my opinion. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, RobR said: The whole doesn't run a full route tree is beyond overblown when it comes to Mims. He tested similarly to Ruggs when it comes to athletic traits and that was on full display at the Senior Bowl. I'm still in shock we traded down and landed him. My last prospect review of him I used the word "smitten" and that's not something I throw around very often. I became smitten watching him move. Great body control, uses his frame, speed, and what look like good hands. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyLV Posted April 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: Mims seems to be a guy who fell because the experts over analyzed and picked on the fact that he didn't run a full route tree, plus it was a deep wr draft of course. Presumably, he didn't run a full route tree in college because he wasn't asked to because he was dominate otherwise. Just throw him the damn ball and he goes and gets it. He's going to get plenty of chances to prove himself early. I don't love PFF for everything but they did a prescient article where they expected Mims to drop because of being from Baylor and his limited route tree. That turned out to be true. But the reality is that it does not seem Mims is not skilled at running other routes just was never asked to.What the article also said is that one on one success in individual drills at the Senior Bowl has a high correlation to success in the NFL. Mims was maybe the most dominant EVER at those 1 on 1s at the Senior Bow. There is a video floating around of them, but it is not only amazing how well he gets separation at the LOS but how diverse the routes he ran were and they were very very crisp. But as to all things there is a flip side. He also had some of the lowest separation in the entire draft class on his routes in college. He also caught a lot if not the most contested catches because of that. So which guy is he? The dominant guy at the Senior bowl, or the guy who didn't consistently separate at FBS level? Time will tell. If he can consistently do what he did at the Senior Bowl he could easily be a Top 5 receiver in the NFL. Here is the video. It is amaze-balls. Seriously 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I did a comparison between Denzel Mims and DK Metcalf because they both had a similar draft experience. Both players are physical freaks who were expected to go in the first round but went late in the second. I was shocked at the results: Mims - 40 games, 186 catches, 15.7 average, 28 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/denzel-mims-1.html Metcalf - 21 games, 67 catches, 18.3 average, 14 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dk-metcalf-1.html Hopefully Mims advantage in experience will prepare him to have a bigger impact in his rookie year than Metcalf did (58 catches, 15.5 average, 7 TD) https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/denzel-mims/https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/julio-jones/Notice how similar they are. Julio is Julio and Mims has a long way to go, but that's the level of upside. Julio sets up his routes extremely well, so that's going to be key (aside from health). Not saying Mims is Julio, but the upside is there if he can work on his route set up. It's decent now, but take it to another level and it can be scary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I did a comparison between Denzel Mims and DK Metcalf because they both had a similar draft experience. Both players are physical freaks who were expected to go in the first round but went late in the second. I was shocked at the results: Mims - 40 games, 186 catches, 15.7 average, 28 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/denzel-mims-1.html Metcalf - 21 games, 67 catches, 18.3 average, 14 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dk-metcalf-1.html Hopefully Mims advantage in experience will prepare him to have a bigger impact in his rookie year than Metcalf did (58 catches, 15.5 average, 7 TD) Do you know the collegiate YAC numbers for each? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I don't love PFF for everything but they did a prescient article where they expected Mims to drop because of being from Baylor and his limited route tree. That turned out to be true. But the reality is that it does not seem Mims is not skilled at running other routes just was never asked to.What the article also said is that one on one success in individual drills at the Senior Bowl has a high correlation to success in the NFL. Mims was maybe the most dominant EVER at those 1 on 1s at the Senior Bow. There is a video floating around of them, but it is not only amazing how well he gets separation at the LOS but how diverse the routes he ran were and they were very very crisp. But as to all things there is a flip side. He also had some of the lowest separation in the entire draft class on his routes in college. He also caught a lot if not the most contested catches because of that. So which guy is he? The dominant guy at the Senior bowl, or the guy who didn't consistently separate at FBS level? Time will tell. If he can consistently do what he did at the Senior Bowl he could easily be a Top 5 receiver in the NFL. Here is the video. It is amaze-balls. Seriously ? amazing vid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Let’s not lose sight of the OP’s main point. If Mims produces as much as Metcalf did his rookie season, we’re in great shape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Mims reminds me a lot more of DeVante Parker than Metcalf. Hopefully he doesn’t need 5 years to break out like Parker though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GREENBEAN Posted April 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2020 The whole doesn't run a full route tree is beyond overblown when it comes to Mims. He tested similarly to Ruggs when it comes to athletic traits and that was on full display at the Senior Bowl. I'm still in shock we traded down and landed him. My last prospect review of him I used the word "smitten" and that's not something I throw around very often. Right. I was blown away by the whole experience and just “knew” when we traded down that we were about to experience a sad and mismanaged draft where disappointment reigned supreme. I felt it in my bones. When he was still there.... and we TOOK him, the Plan became apparent. JD studies the draft probabilities like no GM we’ve ever had. Mims in particular is an exceptional grab for us. He was a top 5 WR for me and even though I liked shenault a tad more, I said many times that I’d take Mims Over shebault were I given that choice at my pick. That was due to the injury concerns of shenault. So the only WR’s I would have taken over Mims in this whole draft were Jeudy and Lamb. And even that was close. I couldn’t believe that out of all the good WR’s being taken that Mims, of all people was the one sliding. I still cNt believe we have a 6’3” guy who runs 4.3 and has the production. Not just measurable. Finally!!!!!!!! 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, win4ever said: https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/denzel-mims/ https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/julio-jones/ Notice how similar they are. Julio is Julio and Mims has a long way to go, but that's the level of upside. Julio sets up his routes extremely well, so that's going to be key (aside from health). Not saying Mims is Julio, but the upside is there if he can work on his route set up. It's decent now, but take it to another level and it can be scary. They're not similar; Julio put up those numbers at 220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 he was abusing those cb's in that video ... poor # 7 probably took his little self home and cried! ... is Mims that learge or were all those corners just extra small? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: They're not similar; Julio put up those numbers at 220 He compared very similar to Ruggs in athletic testing and Ruggs was the most dynamic receiver in this draft. Then you add in the fact he's four inches taller and twenty pounds heavier than Ruggs. I'm not comparing him to Julio but he has some freakish numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, RobR said: He compared very similar to Ruggs in athletic testing and Ruggs was the most dynamic receiver in this draft. Then you add in the fact he's four inches taller and twenty pounds heavier than Ruggs. I'm not comparing him to Julio but he has some freakish numbers. Agreed. But look at what I was responding to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 Here are some more comparisons, Mims doesn't have to take a back seat to anyone. Who knew?: Mims - 40 games, 186 catches, 15.7 average, 28 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/denzel-mims-1.html Metcalf - 21 games, 67 catches, 18.3 average, 14 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dk-metcalf-1.html Jeudy - 36 games, 159 catches, 17.2 average, 26 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jerry-jeudy-1.html Lamb - 40 games, 173 catches, 19 average, 32 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ceedee-lamb-1.html Ruggs - 40 games, 98 catches, 17.5 average, 24 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/henry-ruggs-iii-1.html Reagor - 39 games, 148 catches, 15.2 average, 22 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jalen-reagor-1.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmello Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 The degree of difficulty on some these catches... At the very least he should a weapon in the red zone for the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 16 hours ago, johnnysd said: What the article also said is that one on one success in individual drills at the Senior Bowl has a high correlation to success in the NFL. Mims was maybe the most dominant EVER at those 1 on 1s at the Senior Bow. There is a video floating around of them, but it is not only amazing how well he gets separation at the LOS but how diverse the routes he ran were and they were very very crisp. Here is the video. It is amaze-balls. Seriously 15 hours ago, David Harris said: ? amazing vid 14 hours ago, ljr said: he was abusing those cb's in that video ... poor # 7 probably took his little self home and cried! ... is Mims that learge or were all those corners just extra small? Serious question. Do any receivers not kill in those drills? One on one with an entire field to use, who can't get open? I get that he was exceptional, but the O is at a huge advantage there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Metcalf put up numbers because he’s got a HOFer in his prime throwing him the ball. His efficiency is not great and his lost production is higher than it should. I don’t know what Mims will be at the next level, but I would take Mims this year over Metcalf last year 12 times out of 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Serious question. Do any receivers not kill in those drills? One on one with an entire field to use, who can't get open? I get that he was exceptional, but the O is at a huge advantage there. Everything is relative. The decision makers know the context of the drill. I'm sure some D guys come off looking good when some O guys aren't crisp in their movement or the D guy just plays with good anticipation and technique. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 17 hours ago, RobR said: The whole doesn't run a full route tree is beyond overblown when it comes to Mims. He tested similarly to Ruggs when it comes to athletic traits and that was on full display at the Senior Bowl. I'm still in shock we traded down and landed him. My last prospect review of him I used the word "smitten" and that's not something I throw around very often. Agreed. Plus, if you really break it down, how many NFL receivers run every route in the tree in a given season? Routes really depend on the receiver position you are playing. An X isn’t running the same stuff as the slot and vice versa. Besides, just because a guy didn’t run that route in college doesn’t mean he is t capable, he just wasn’t asked to. I remember the huge knock on Devante Adams was that he ran like 3 routes at Fresno State, how did that work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted April 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2020 14 hours ago, KRL said: Here are some more comparisons, Mims doesn't have to take a back seat to anyone. Who knew?: Mims - 40 games, 186 catches, 15.7 average, 28 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/denzel-mims-1.html Metcalf - 21 games, 67 catches, 18.3 average, 14 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dk-metcalf-1.html Jeudy - 36 games, 159 catches, 17.2 average, 26 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jerry-jeudy-1.html Lamb - 40 games, 173 catches, 19 average, 32 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ceedee-lamb-1.html Ruggs - 40 games, 98 catches, 17.5 average, 24 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/henry-ruggs-iii-1.html Reagor - 39 games, 148 catches, 15.2 average, 22 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jalen-reagor-1.html It was evident going back to 2018 - i guess the world just couldn't shake baylor ghosts of the past (Coleman, Williams, Gordon, Wright etc)... despite the Rhule regime being a fresh start post-Briles offense. Truth is, I came away last year having a hard time saying Jalen Hurd was the best baylor WR. Mims kept stealing the show.... and y'all know how much i liked Hurd... Man, had we taken both? Sam would be pro-bowlin' like a boss talk of things like limited route-running *ability. stiffness, hands, game speed are laughable.... laughable I say. I could go, but i think you get the idea. FCKING BEAST 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 They're not similar; Julio put up those numbers at 220That's 13lbs off, not that big of a difference. .I'm not saying he's Julio, because Julio was more polished, but their athletic profile is very similar. https://assets-global.website-files.com/5988f684fda8db00017f4dee/5e63a8e4bdffbd5d60ad23ce_CFM20_WR-b_Mims_Denzel_PDF.pdf 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Serious question. Do any receivers not kill in those drills? One on one with an entire field to use, who can't get open? I get that he was exceptional, but the O is at a huge advantage there. You're right the offense has the advantage, but the drill is all about the 5 yard area and who wins. How good is the WR's technique and can he beat press man in a variety of ways (feet, hands)? Or is the CB disruptive enough to delay the WR in the area and allow his front 7 to get the "sack"? And Mims consistently got off the line quickly with numerous moves (hesitations, hand fighting, footwork), very good signs that he understands his position is more than just speed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmello Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Good article on Mims. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/4/14/21218097/denzel-mims-nfl-draft-2020-wide-receiver-ranking-baylor-highlights-film-jets Retired defensive end Stephen White has been impressed with every wide receiver he’s broken down so far this year — but none more than Denzel Mims. By Stephen White Updated Apr 24, 2020, 9:14pm EDT Share this story Share this on Facebook (opens in new window) Share this on Twitter (opens in new window) SHAREAll sharing options WR Denzel Mims showed off his first-round potential at Baylor. The New York Jets selected Denzel Mims with the No. 59 overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft. Here’s what Stephen White had to say about Mims ahead of the draft. Denzel Mims is the very epitome of a “big play” receiver. And I don’t just mean a guy who can catch a deep ball or make defenders miss once the ball is in his hands. For me, a true big-play wide receiver is a dude who also shows up in crunch time. It’s cool to catch a bomb in the fourth quarter, but who is going to make a play when you need one late in the game? Mims, that’s who. But before I get to his timely heroics, let me just talk about how impressive Mims’ tape was from his time at Baylor. To me, Mims already looks like a Mini Megatron. He can run by you, jump over you, and run through you if need be. He is also the first receiver I’ve broken down this year who actually looks dominant as a blocker. He brings an attitude to blocking the same way he does when he is fighting for the football in the air, and most teams would love to have a tempo setter like their in receiver room. And that’s just scratching the surface. What Mims does well: Jump up and get the ball First of all, the guy is 6’3 and 207 pounds, with body control like a ballerina. They haven’t come up with combine drill yet that can measure the level of athleticism Mims displayed while jumping up to make catches. Yeah, the 38.5-inch vertical gives you somewhat of an idea of how high he can jump from a standstill. Now imagine getting that high in the air with a running start, then pirouetting in mid-air to make the catch, while still managing to get both feet down and in bounds on the sideline. Yeah, two feet. I don’t know if he was showing off since it probably would’ve been easier for him to just get one toe down, which is all that is required in college football, but it was damn sure amazing. And those kinds of catches almost came off as routine for Mims in the four games of his I watched. Some of the back-shoulder fade catches in particular looked damn near unfair. Mims was “sonning” these dudes like he was that one guy in Little League who always had to show his birth certificate. It didn’t really even matter who the defensive backs were, or how they were trying to play him either. Off, press, bail — none of that mattered if Mims was facing man-to man-coverage. The only determining factor seemed to be whether his quarterback delivered a ball that was at least in the vicinity. One thing I noticed about Mims is he goes after every jump ball like he’s supposed to catch it. Hell, sometimes the ball was so off target that most receivers wouldn’t have even stuck their hands up at it, but he would fight for every reception, and he came up with more than his fair share. One of his most impressive catches didn’t even count because it was so off target. Even though he ended up several yards out of bounds when he came down, Mims still went up and snatched the ball out of the air like it was nothing. What Mims does well: He plays physical As much as his ability to jump helped him go up and make some plays “above the rim” so to speak, Mims’ ability to create separation with subtle pushoffs were also quite remarkable. He was so quick with it that it wasn’t even noticeable unless you were really paying attention, but you can clearly see him stiff-arming defenders around the hip area a second before the quarterback delivered the football. Then all of a sudden Mims would go from being even with the defensive back, to having 3-4 yards of separation. He did have one long touchdown overturned because of an offensive pass interference call once in those four games, but even then it was more about the defensive back being overly dramatic and falling down. Mims looked like an NFL vet at times nudging the DB just enough so they couldn’t catch up to him. Mims actually reminds me of Mike Evans in that respect, though Evans was, and still is at times, a lot more obvious than Mims was on tape. I don’t think Mims will end up getting a ton of OPI penalties like Evans has since coming to the league (some of those calls against Evans were also hot garbage). In fact, I think the physicality of his route running is a major selling point for Mims. Even when you think you have him covered well, you don’t. His route running in general was pretty good. Not quite as crisp as Jerry Jeudy, but Mims looked plenty fluid getting in and out of his breaks. I didn’t think Baylor used him in as many of the ways as they could have, but I will get to that in a minute. What Mims does well: He shows up when it matters most His 40-yard time at the combine was what really cemented just how strong of a prospect Mims is, in my mind. I didn’t necessarily question Mims’ speed, but he was so good at creating separation in other ways, it never really occurred to me that he might be 4.38 fast. The dude has a serious set of wheels. Just knowing he can blow by a lot of defenders with his speed, combined with all of his other attributes, and you have a receiver who is going to force defenses to roll coverage his way a lot. To be honest, I’m not even sure double coverage deep will always be effective on him, either. But let me mention again the timeliness of some of the big plays Mims made. He basically put the team on his back in overtime against Texas Tech. With one hell of an effort, he got the Red Raiders to the 1-yard line before they scored a touchdown to tie a game they would eventually go on to win. Against Oklahoma in the regular season, Mims suffered a lower leg injury that had him limping. He still found a way to come back in the game and make plays, including gutting out a 21-yard gain after a 10-yard stop. I just wanted to inject it into my veins. That’s the kind of stuff you really want to see from any prospect; how do they perform when the pressure is on and their team needs someone to step up and make a play? Do they shrink from the spotlight, or shine in it? Mims was straight up sparking in those situations in the games I watched. Where Mims can improve: Ball security To be sure, there are also some things Mims can work on, too. Ball security is something I’d watch with him. He had one concentration drop in the games I watched, and to make matters worse, it would have been a touchdown. He also fumbled a couple of times, and even though Baylor retained possession after both plays, I never like seeing guys get ripped like that. There were also a few plays where he didn’t come down with contested catches and I wouldn’t call it a “drop” per se, but I would expect a top-tier receiver like, say, Julio Jones to make those catches more often than not. It might help if Mims worked on strengthening his hands. After watching some of the balls he was able to haul in away from his body, it’s impossible for me to say he has “bad” hands, but that doesn’t mean he can’t improve in that area. It could be the difference between being thought of as a good receiver or as great one Of course, the important thing for a lot of general managers will be that the potential for greatness is already there. It doesn’t guarantee anything, but if you trust your coaching staff, then you have to believe they will help Mims pull that greatness out of himself eventually. And if this kid really blossoms on the next level, he really might end up being the next Julio. Mims’ NFL future: A star WR I know I was talking up Henry Ruggs III not too long ago, and I stand by everything in that column. But I have a hard time seeing a way that he would be higher than Mims on my board this spring. Maybe the only advantage Ruggs has is he was used in more ways in Alabama’s offense than Mims was used in Baylor’s. I didn’t get to see Mims line up in the slot much, or running any end-arounds, or catching any shallow crossers. But after watching Mims move with the ball in his hands, break tackles, and make defenders miss, I feel confident he could do all those things well, too. You know what Mims also didn’t have in college? A quarterback like Tua Tagovailoa throwing him the football. I’m not going to say Baylor’s quarterback was trash, but he did miss Mims a couple of times on would-be big plays. There is no guarantee Mims will get drafted to a team an outstanding quarterback, but if he does, I would expect him to ball out from day one. The first receiver off the board is probably going to come down to what “kind” a team is looking for early in this draft. I can understand the argument for the smaller, probably quicker Ruggs, but I’m generally partial to the bigger, more physical receivers, especially if they are also fast. Speed kills, true enough, but when both guys are pretty fast, give me the one who can also create separation with his physicality. Before I watched Mims’ tape, I was sure I would tap Ruggs as the first receiver taken in this draft. Now, I’m just as sure that I’d take Mims instead. If I watch a guy next week who blows both of them away, I will adjust again. What I can say for sure right now is that the folks who said this would be a good draft for teams that need receivers were not lying. History tells us that some of these receivers probably won’t pan out, but there aren’t any obvious busts out of the four guys I’ve broken down so far. I can’t wait to see what they all do once they get to the league. Be sure to check out my other scouting reports on Chase Young, Jerry Jeudy, Derrick Brown, Jedrick Wills Jr., A.J. Epenesa, CeeDee Lamb, Javon Kinlaw, Mekhi Becton, Terrell Lewis, Henry Ruggs III, Neville Gallimore, Tristan Wirfs, and K’Lavon Chaisson. For the purposes of this breakdown, I watched Mims play against Kansas State, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Texas. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 19 hours ago, KRL said: I did a comparison between Denzel Mims and DK Metcalf because they both had a similar draft experience. Both players are physical freaks who were expected to go in the first round but went late in the second. I was shocked at the results: Mims - 40 games, 186 catches, 15.7 average, 28 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/denzel-mims-1.html Metcalf - 21 games, 67 catches, 18.3 average, 14 TD https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dk-metcalf-1.html Hopefully Mims advantage in experience will prepare him to have a bigger impact in his rookie year than Metcalf did (58 catches, 15.5 average, 7 TD) If Mims has a 58 catch, 900 yard, 7 TD rookie year I'll take it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, win4ever said: That's 13lbs off, not that big of a difference. . I'm not saying he's Julio, because Julio was more polished, but their athletic profile is very similar. https://assets-global.website-files.com/5988f684fda8db00017f4dee/5e63a8e4bdffbd5d60ad23ce_CFM20_WR-b_Mims_Denzel_PDF.pdf From a measurables comparison they have a lot of similarities. From a football performer point of view...he's going to be...Mims! Mims is going to be somebody in this league you're going to compare upcoming draft prospects too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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