JetNation Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 GreenBean is in a salt mine in Kansas this week. He is on his way to Denver and he is talking about the NY Jets offense. Who is the offensive break out candidate be? Training camp is here so let’s discuss the offense. Sam Darnold, Le’Veon Bell, Chris Herndon, Trevon Wesco, Breshard Perriman and Denzel Mims are all highlighted in this video. Check it out and let us know what you think about the NY Jets roster this season. The post NY Jets Break Out Candidate — Offense appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). Click here to read the full story... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted August 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2020 there is only one Jets break out candidate on offense that matters: Sam Darnold. p.s. Becton would help 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 please let there be a season 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Dcat said: there is only one Jets break out candidate on offense that matters: Sam Darnold. p.s. Becton would help Zelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Enunwa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I am with Dcat.....Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I have a few points to make and I will start with Darnold. Obviously he's the choice, but would you really consider that a "Breakout"? He's had a bumpy road his first 2 seasons, but the ups and downs were due to coaching changes, illness, and injuries. I'm very confident that with some consistency he'll do exactly what he supposed to do. I expect nothing less. Watching an interview with one Teddy Atlas the other day, he was talking about some of the boxers he has worked with. I'm paraphrasing here, but what he said was that some guys are spectacular and what you really want is solid. It's hard to consistently be spectacular but you can consistently be solid. Now I think Sam will spread the ball around and we will all see Perriman, Mims, and Bell making some great impact plays, I'm also starting to get a little nervous that this is going to be a funky season if we even have one. So here is my pick... Lamical Perine- This dude is just going to put his head down and work. When all is said and done at the end of the season, he will have unseated both Bell and Gore as our starting running back. I have watched the rookie and free agent highlights and everybody needs work and coaching. Perine just needs the ball. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gibby Posted August 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2020 As long as it’s an “ breakout and not an ( outbreak) we'll be good. ? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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section314 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Dcat said: there is only one Jets break out candidate on offense that matters: Sam Darnold. p.s. Becton would help Absolutely. Only guy that will really change this team. And on D, the only guy that matters is Q. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Greenbloodblitz said: So here is my pick... Lamical Perine- It's funny because that was the one pick by JD that I didn't love. Not that I know sh*t about college football, but it sounded to me like he's a short yardage type RB. Maybe I'm wrong about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted August 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2020 The Jets have nothing but breakout candidates on offense, they're all potential. If the Jets have even a decent season, though, it'll be Sam Darnold that we're all talking about. He's the difference. If it's, "oh, we suck again!" then the organization (read: Joe Douglas and the Johnson in charge) will have to start coming to some conclusions about both Darnold and Gase. Joe Douglas has the team set up for either. Big jump for Darnold would solidify Gase, and then their draft pick haul and cap space will be invested heavily in an effort to move the team from up & coming to genuine contender. If not, all that offseason capital can be used to attract a new coach and maybe start looking for a new QB. I still don't think it'll come to that, but the team is set up for either contingency. So it's all about Darnold, it always was. @GREENBEAN isn't including rookies in his breakout analysis, but Becton and Mims are huge pieces for the Jets offense this year. If the OL overhaul is a net positive, the team's in a decent place. If we're talking about Becton and Mims as rookie stars, we're probably looking at a pretty good football team. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: It's funny because that was the one pick by JD that I didn't love. Not that I know sh*t about college football, but it sounded to me like he's a short yardage type RB. Maybe I'm wrong about that? Perine was Douglas' first pick that wasn't an athletic freak (he grabbed another later in the round in Zuniga), but he's an all-around RB. He can run, catch, and block. I think he's gonna be a great cornerstone in the Jets RB by committee that Gase prefers. I hope he's involved early, but I'd expect him to be in the rotation pretty heavily by the end of the year. He might be the top RB on the roster heading into next year's offseason. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, slats said: Perine was Douglas' first pick that wasn't an athletic freak (he grabbed another later in the round in Zuniga), but he's an all-around RB. He can run, catch, and block. I think he's gonna be a great cornerstone in the Jets RB by committee that Gase prefers. I hope he's involved early, but I'd expect him to be in the rotation pretty heavily by the end of the year. He might be the top RB on the roster heading into next year's offseason. I'll look forward to him dragging Adams into the endzone (again) when we visit Seattle. A little deja vu would be so satisfying. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: It's funny because that was the one pick by JD that I didn't love. Not that I know sh*t about college football, but it sounded to me like he's a short yardage type RB. Maybe I'm wrong about that? Well I will tell you straight up that I don't know absolute s*** about college football LOL! It's just a gut feel dude that I have. He reminds me of Wayne Chrebet. Just a reliable solid consistent guy who always gets it done. go check the highlights. When it's draft time I read the mags, I read the news or look up the highlights. I do a little Wiki research, I'm no college football Guru. If I was a GM I would have picked this guy too. Just like Bilal Powell was never a superstar, we're all like what do you mean he's not on the team anymore? Unfortunately except for injuries every time Powell touch the ball something positive happened. Again it's just my gut feeling but after watching his highlights multiple times I think you can count on this guy to keep moving forward with the ball in his hands. Nothing special or spectacular but he just keeps moving forward. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, slats said: Perine was Douglas' first pick that wasn't an athletic freak (he grabbed another later in the round in Zuniga), but he's an all-around RB. He can run, catch, and block. I think he's gonna be a great cornerstone in the Jets RB by committee that Gase prefers. I hope he's involved early, but I'd expect him to be in the rotation pretty heavily by the end of the year. He might be the top RB on the roster heading into next year's offseason. Exactly! Good post. Not every guy can be a superstar some guys just have to be football players. He's 5-11 218 pounds. Like you said he can catch, run, block I think he just has "it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Perriman will probably have to "break out" just to have the year that most of this board is projecting for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 The guy I am hoping for the most is Mims. If he turns out to be a #1 WR - and he has the talent and tools - it would do so much to fire this team up. It would let Perriman and Crowder thrive in their roles and do so much for Sam's development. I am super excited to see Becton play, but the guy who I think could do the most to turn this team around with a break-out season is Mims. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 It's clearly Darnold. I just wish we did more with the OL and offensive weapons to give him the best chance to "Break Out" Right now there are just so too many ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I would say the most important breakout candidate is Gase. We need him to lead this team more than Sam. He is the one pulling all the levers. Sam is going to go as Gase goes. Sam is not Rogers who is going to follow his own instincts over the coaches. We need Gase to step up. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 As always great stuff. I agree with almost all that you said. Wesco I think will be a key player. I think Becton will start at RT and Wesco will be used on the strong side to help Becton and also to set an outside running edge or chip and run outside seam routes. Not sure on Bell, the OL probably has to be a little stronger than average to get those numbers. It has the possibility but difficult to build it up with so little practice. I am not sure he will have big numbers but I see Barrios contributing more this year, I think like most teams we will run a lot of 11 personnel but we can also be challenging for teams in 12 personnel of the flipside in 10. I would like to see more no huddle trap the defense type offense especially if we can trap them in base against 10 or 12 against nickel Smith will surprise as well I think. Who is your breakout rookie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 MIMS!!! I'm hoping he's a bigger stronger Steve Smith who was a BAD MAMMAJAMMA! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jetster said: MIMS!!! I'm hoping he's a bigger stronger Steve Smith who was a BAD MAMMAJAMMA! I heard all of the grocery stores are removing that label which is very sad... along with Stubbs mopping sauce, Uncle Ben's rice, and the cream o' wheat guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 imo herndon is the break out candidate. thus far he has only showed flashes. can he regain the rapport he was starting to get with darnold? will he do better than griffen? he really needs to do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 It's realistically Darnold, but Herndon will probably work in tandem with that. I think I realized that if anyone of these guys breaks out for a great season, it'll probably be due to Darnold doing the same thing. That's why he's the primary choice. QB impact and all that shenanigans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 With an improved line and added weapons, Darnold is the clear cut breakout candidate. He's shown flashes of elite play with a high school team around him the last two years. If the draft picks, FA's, and players returning from injury play up to their press clippings, Darnold can be leading a pretty decent offense to the end zone all season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 As always great stuff. I agree with almost all that you said. Wesco I think will be a key player. I think Becton will start at RT and Wesco will be used on the strong side to help Becton and also to set an outside running edge or chip and run outside seam routes. Not sure on Bell, the OL probably has to be a little stronger than average to get those numbers. It has the possibility but difficult to build it up with so little practice. I am not sure he will have big numbers but I see Barrios contributing more this year, I think like most teams we will run a lot of 11 personnel but we can also be challenging for teams in 12 personnel of the flipside in 10. I would like to see more no huddle trap the defense type offense especially if we can trap them in base against 10 or 12 against nickel Smith will surprise as well I think. Who is your breakout rookie? My breakout Rookie will be In a seperate rookie vid, but I can say now that I think Mims is the guy who will be better than most people think. I loved him coming out and never ever thought we'd get a shot at him even at 48. Making it to 59 was a stroke of luck rarely captured by the NY Jets. I''ll go into why I think that happened in the next vid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 hours ago, slats said: Perine was Douglas' first pick that wasn't an athletic freak (he grabbed another later in the round in Zuniga), but he's an all-around RB. He can run, catch, and block. I think he's gonna be a great cornerstone in the Jets RB by committee that Gase prefers. I hope he's involved early, but I'd expect him to be in the rotation pretty heavily by the end of the year. He might be the top RB on the roster heading into next year's offseason. Glad to hear the optimism about this guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I might be the only one on this but I think it could be Bless. We saw flashes from him last year and he was a rookie coming in mid season without much secondary talent around him. Now there's way more depth (despite losing Adams), I think the pass rush will improve, which will help, the offense won't be punting constantly (we hope), and he will have some experience under his belt. I also think he will have a chip on his shoulder for being benched at the end of last season. I think the way this roster is set up, it gives Bless the perfect opportunity to lock down an outside starting spot and he has the talent to have a breakout season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Hernandez Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Joe Douglas has done a good job getting rid of the bad apples. We used to have a long list of most likely people to break out of police custody on a yearly basis. Now its the Giants As for offense I been on Mims who I thought was a first rounder before the draft, but I'm thinking Herndon considering what Darnold did with Ryan Griffen last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jet Nut Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 19 hours ago, Dcat said: there is only one Jets break out candidate on offense that matters: Sam Darnold. p.s. Becton would help You beat everyone to it, Sam in a landslide otherwise the whole offense suffers and no one emerges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 8 hours ago, More Cowbell said: I would say the most important breakout candidate is Gase. We need him to lead this team more than Sam. He is the one pulling all the levers. Sam is going to go as Gase goes. Sam is not Rogers who is going to follow his own instincts over the coaches. We need Gase to step up. Nice answer, different angle, well done!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 46 minutes ago, PepPep said: I might be the only one on this but I think it could be Bless. Given this thread was titled break out offensive player, yeah you more than likely will be the only one who thinks it could be Bless LOL ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 9 hours ago, nycdan said: The guy I am hoping for the most is Mims. If he turns out to be a #1 WR - and he has the talent and tools - it would do so much to fire this team up. It would let Perriman and Crowder thrive in their roles and do so much for Sam's development. I am super excited to see Becton play, but the guy who I think could do the most to turn this team around with a break-out season is Mims. for me the timing tween Sam and Zelly/Breshad is superimportant... if they can develop the kinda rapport that we saw in 2015 Fitz/Mims/Perriman the WRs being a slightly smaller version (6'3" and 6'2") of Marhsall and Decker ( 6'5" and 6'3") either one of these WRs can win well timed back shoulder throws deep on the perimeter for 15+ yd chunks, fast enough to work deep ovefr the middle stuff to clear out the underneath for Crowda/The TE group/Bell.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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