Augustiniak Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, bitonti said: Not particularly. He's an interesting prospect but like Sanchez or darnold there's nothing elite about his physical gifts TL is 6'6 and can run. Wilson is 6'3 and can't You obviously haven’t seen Wilson scramble. Go to you tube and watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Looks like we'll see Fields vs Lawrence head to head in the CFP. As for Trask , he's had a great season but Pitts is a major weapon, he was out against LSU and it was quite noticable. Give Fields or Trevor a weapon like that and they'd look even better . Noticeable!? Florida scored 34 points in a 3 point loss. Trask was 29/47 for 474 yards without Pitts. While he did throw 2 interceptions, one was a fluke. Florida's D lost that game, Trask did well even without Pitts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Did you watch Fields on Saturday? He’s not it. Did you watch Lawrence last year against OSU and LSU ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, maury77 said: He got into Harvard? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Fitz with athleticism? Sign me up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, 56mehl56 said: Did you watch Lawrence last year against OSU and LSU ? Yes. He was significantly better than what Fields showed on Saturday. Holding the ball/deer in headlights- you cant draft that at 2. He's also not as athletic as Murray/Lamar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: He will never be a good NFL starter. I see close to nothing in his game that say NFL starter. He does nothing elite. relative weak arm, relatively slow for a guy with a weak arm, not particularly accurate. I don't think I've seen him complete a pass to a covered receiver. Kinda reminds me of Marcus Mariotta. if that's the case let's just sign him and keep #2 overall. This is such a bad take but we will see. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Sonny Werblin said: Noticeable!? Florida scored 34 points in a 3 point loss. Trask was 29/47 for 474 yards without Pitts. While he did throw 2 interceptions, one was a fluke. Florida's D lost that game, Trask did well even without Pitts. Yes noticeable . LSU's D was putrid this season , Pitts not playing was a big reason Florida did not put up 50 or more. The kid is a matchup nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, Matt39 said: Yes. He was significantly better than what Fields showed on Saturday. Holding the ball/deer in headlights- you cant draft that at 2. He's also not as athletic as Murray/Lamar. 1 game? Lol this board sometimes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Fields has never been as bad as TL was vs LSU. My goodness people. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, bitonti said: Not particularly. He's an interesting prospect but like Sanchez or darnold there's nothing elite about his physical gifts TL is 6'6 and can run. Wilson is 6'3 and can't awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Yes. He was significantly better than what Fields showed on Saturday. Holding the ball/deer in headlights- you cant draft that at 2. He's also not as athletic as Murray/Lamar. You guys are absolutely ridiculous with your blinders for a single QB that's been over-hyped since day 1 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I will say this, I watched that entire Clemson game & saw one back shoulder throw that was on the money though contested. Every other throw guys were wide open or they were check downs & 5 yard passes. But, what do I know? I just watch the games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, JiF said: #1 and #2 prospects in the country coming out of High School. Both are total studs. Fields is the highest rated player to ever take the field for OSU. He also had the brains to go to Harvard. You could do worse than Justin Fields. That said, trade back, sign Winston, score 40 a game. 40 what? Picks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, peebag said: Sure but TL would get a longer "trial by fire" period than most. Two weeks instead of one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, JiF said: 1 game? Lol this board sometimes Not breaking the hold the ball habit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: You obviously haven’t seen Wilson scramble. Go to you tube and watch. Wilson is 6'2 212 he'd have to run a 4.3 like Vick for his scrambling to be considered elite enough for the 2 pick He's a decent dude not elite tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, kmnj said: I loved allen. Loved Watson-Loved Mahomes Loved Farve -all guys I wanted the jets to get- I also loved marino to but we got stuck with Kenny O. Unlike our previous GM I knew Hackenburg was never going to be a NFL QB and I also know the Morgan Pick was a waste though some say he is our tom brady lol However, I am not perfect in the QB arena I thought P Lynch was going to be good in Denver And funny the 2 QB's that most think are the Goats were 3rd and 6th rd picks. .Johnny Unitas was a 8th rd pick by the Steelers and cut and was picked up by the Colts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetster said: I will say this, I watched that entire Clemson game & saw one back shoulder throw that was on the money though contested. Every other throw guys were wide open or they were check downs & 5 yard passes. But, what do I know? I just watch the games. Lawrence has everything you want in a QB, but he hasn't faced adversity , he's had it too easy for most of his college career. Will he be a great QB in the NFL only time will tell , but those anointing him the messiah before he's taken a single NFL snap are buying into the hype machine 100%. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Yes noticeable . LSU's D was putrid this season , Pitts not playing was a big reason Florida did not put up 50 or more. The kid is a matchup nightmare. 474 yards was tied for his most yards in a game this season. So, what was noticeable? That he didn't score more TD's because didn't have Pitts in the red zone? They did kick two FGs -- a 23 yarder and a 31 yarder. Is that what you mean? I'm seriously trying to understand how a QB can throw for 474 yards and it being a a bad thing. Even if he is better with Pitts -- who wouldn't be -- how is it bad that he tied his season high of 474 yards without Pitts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, bitonti said: Wilson is 6'2 212 he'd have to run a 4.3 like Vick for his scrambling to be considered elite enough for the 2 pick He's a decent dude not elite tho. Darnold isn’t an elite scrambler but he can run when necesssary. That’s all you need. I do think Wilson will quickly emerge as the 2nd best qb in this class, whether or not douglas wants to pin his legacy to him at 2 is another matter. Fields is very much a product of the OSU system and elite talent, he can throw but you can see his ‘processsor’ isn’t fast. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, 56mehl56 said: Lawrence has everything you want in a QB, but he hasn't faced adversity , he's had it too easy for most of his college career. Will he be a great QB in the NFL only time will tell , but those anointing him the messiah before he's taken a single NFL snap are buying into the hype machine 100%. Exactly, I refuse to believe there is only 1 QB in this upcoming draft that will have NFL success. Of course I’m not taking a chance at #2 but I would certainly consider trading back for more picks & taking a QB. What teams in the top 10 picks are targeting a QB this year? I do think the bengals would trade up to the Jets for Sewell! Burrow coming off ACL/MCL? Bectons a beast, we take Sewell his agent will want LT money pretty quickly. Jets could own this 1st round in 2021 & a lot of you guys have said let’s build the team & then find a QB. That could happen this year with 9 or more picks coming in 2022 to really take off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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isired Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Until you have your FQB, you keep drafting QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2021 NFL Draft: Updated quarterback rankings Justin Fields Ohio State. Trevor Lawrence Clemson. © Rich Barnes-USA TODAY Sports. Trey Lance North Dakota State. © Tim Heitman-USA TODAY Sports. Zach Wilson BYU. © George Frey/Pool Photo-USA TODAY Sports. Kyle Trask Florida. ... Mac Jones Alabama. ... Sam Ehlinger Texas. ... Jamie Newman Georgia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Scoop24 said: Theres nothing wrong with Fields he is QB1 in most classes. He just isnt TL. He is definitely higher rated prospect than Sam coming out. Zach wilson is pretty good prospect himself. jd isnt risking his career on Sam. I wonder who he takes. Looking at the glass half full: 1) Sam is boosting his trade value and can do so with the last 2 games having good showing and at best not winning both games, but say only winning at most 1 game i.e NE making sure we at least get number 2 pick. 2) Similar to 1 above, but lose both games and Jax wins 1 still giving us the number 1 pick. 3) If 1 above occurs, we take say Fields and get a pretty good trade value for Darnold to start over building around Fields. 4) JD decides to roll with Darnold and someone should trade up for Fields where we can build enough with all draft picks and FA and see where it takes us in 2021 with a new HC and coaching staff. Aye, life could be worse where we are going through the worst Pandemic and Economy then anyone of us have ever experienced something out of a scary tragic movie. Oh, I forgot we are and this hasn't all been a long running nightmare we just woke up from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Butterfield said: No other qb (besides Lawrence) is worth drafting in round 1 this year. I think you're right. W/ no Lawrence, I'd much rather build w Sam D. What wouldn't be the worst scenario is us with first pick, Lawrence pulling a Peyton, and then having half the league bid for the top pick. Yes, it would be humiliation (like we don't know what that feels like?) but it would create a situation where a productive gm, as we would like to think Joe D is, could go to town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jets4Life1979 said: I say draft Penei Sewell with the 2nd overall, Najee Harris with the 2nd 1st round pick, sign Joe Thuney to play guard and have elite offensive line with beast najee harris running the rock Whos playing QB? Fitz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryFields Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 We should be begging Fields to come here and save us. He’s a generational talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, jgb said: Bargaining... was that when I yelled "I'M DONE!!!" about 5 min after the game? I know some fans yell this almost weekly, year in and year out, but last night when the Jets ensured no silver lining for 3 seasons of rock bottom football, that was probably the first time for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jets4Life1979 said: I say draft Penei Sewell with the 2nd overall, Najee Harris with the 2nd 1st round pick, sign Joe Thuney to play guard and have elite offensive line with beast najee harris running the rock Travis Etienne or Najee Harris would be a good pick we haven't had a decent RB here in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Whos playing QB? Fitz? Jameis, Trubisky, Tyrod, Brissett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, sackdance said: Bargaining... was that when I yelled "I'M DONE!!!" about 5 min after the game? I know some fans yell this almost weekly, year in and year out, but last night when the Jets ensured no silver lining for 3 seasons of rock bottom football, that was probably the first time for me. Lol sounds like you've already passed anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Lawrence has everything you want in a QB, but he hasn't faced adversity , he's had it too easy for most of his college career. Will he be a great QB in the NFL only time will tell , but those anointing him the messiah before he's taken a single NFL snap are buying into the hype machine 100%. And nobody thought Mahomes would be what is he today. And he wouldn't be if he went to the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 If we are taking a QB at 2 I’m in the Wilson camp over Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Ohio State Qbs make USC Qbs look good in the nfl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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