Savage69 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Beerfish said: A good number of people said he was terrible before the draft. A good number also said Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen would never make it.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, Baeton Manning said: Wasn't he well regarded out of college by pretty much everyone? I wasn't following the prospects at all that year but I know it was part of the meltdown about picking Daniel Jones at 6th or whatever it was, that they couldn't get the great Dwayne Haskins He absolutely scorched the the Big 10. The experts loved him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, KRL said: Well that's a definite landing spot for Darnold Yea, maybe they’ll give us Chase Young for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Expect Miami look to do the same fwiw. Will the Jets realize their Darnold error? We are always last to the party lol. So I expect not. We'll stick with Sam because "it's only been 3 years" LMAO. The Jets don't get it. That tweet by Pianowski sums things up perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, peebag said: No, not really. Washington over drafted him. By a lot. Dan Snyder. This was another Dan Snyder-overrules-his-Coaches Draft Pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Expect Miami look to do the same fwiw. Will the Jets realize their Darnold error? It is not the Johnson way to realize their errors. They paid for their players, dammit. They hold onto their players, hoping they work out or someone will trade for them. Look at the history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 He has literally done everything in his power to get himself banished from the league. If we go with the Ohio State QB at #2 we can’t say we weren’t warned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Savage69 said: A good number also said Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen would never make it.. Yes, and? My response was directed towards the poster who said it was hindsight. It had nothing to do with any other QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Irish Jet said: He has literally done everything in his power to get himself banished from the league. If we go with the Ohio State QB at #2 we can’t say we weren’t warned. It is my long standing feeling that marrying college to prospect is a 100% faulty way to look at a prospect. If someone says to me QB A is bad, don;t draft because he is inaccurate or slow or turnover prone or just overrated fine. If someone says don't draft a guy a guy because he comes from a college that that had previous busts it means a big fat zero to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Haskins turned out to be a less talented Geno Smith, with a worse personality and less self-awareness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Haskins, Winston, Marriota ..... all were prospects along the lines of the guys that people are advocating the Jets select at #2. It is a crapshoot. The jets can not afford to waste top picks on players that are crapshoots. Build the team first. then find a QB in the draft. in the meantime, signing any QB with starting experience is likely an upgrade from Sam's past performance. sh*t, even Winston or Mariota would be a big upgrade from Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: It is my long standing feeling that marrying college to prospect is a 100% faulty way to look at a prospect. If someone says to me QB A is bad, don;t draft because he is inaccurate or slow or turnover prone or just overrated fine. If someone says don't draft a guy a guy because he comes from a college that that had previous busts it means a big fat zero to me. What if the QB dated a cheerleader with a big bust?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Remember when Dave Gettlman and the Giants got accused by the talking heads of being racist for taking Daniel Jones? I'm sure the apologies are incoming any time now 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Douglas: "Hey Ron! How do you feel about red head QB's?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Beerfish said: It is my long standing feeling that marrying college to prospect is a 100% faulty way to look at a prospect. If someone says to me QB A is bad, don;t draft because he is inaccurate or slow or turnover prone or just overrated fine. If someone says don't draft a guy a guy because he comes from a college that that had previous busts it means a big fat zero to me. I know it is faulty. But it’s just a reminder how certain programs can elevate poor pro prospects. Some have a better track record than others for a reason. Fields is his own guy but a lot of the same on field issues he has were a theme with Haskins too. That said it seems Haskins has a whole host of problems that are unique to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 If anybody can fix Haskins, it's this guy: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Haskins, Winston, Marriota ..... all were prospects along the lines of the guys that people are advocating the Jets select at #2. It is a crapshoot. The jets can not afford to waste top picks on players that are crapshoots. Build the team first. then find a QB in the draft. in the meantime, signing any QB with starting experience is likely an upgrade from Sam's past performance. sh*t, even Winston or Mariota would be a big upgrade from Sam. The draft is all about value/risk assessment. Or so people say. I think picking high is almost being cursed. After top 8 or so, I don't think fans are going to begrudge a team that makes an educated bet on a QB, the most valuable position on the team. But before that, you want an instant starter and hopefully guaranteed star. Gettleman was right when he said he wanted a guaranteed hall of fame player with the second pick, but I don't know whether that mean a RB almost guaranteed to get hurt and have a short career. So in the past few drafts, there have been shuffles to trade up or down and get a QB for the right value. Bears traded up for Trubitsky-not too smart. Trading up for Darnold is not looking too smart either. Will take the Jets over 5 years to recover from that. For QB in particular, character, coachability and intelligence are crucially important. I think Mariota has all of that, or at least the first two. Haskins and Winston-not so much. People are really going to have to drill into Fields. You can argue that playing at Ohio State can make a player less intelligent and a worse citizen than when they started out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Bring back Gase and sign Dwayne Haskins. Solves both of this franchise's biggest issues! Yes! The Jets will be sure to land that coveted title of "worst team in NFL history" then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Savage69 said: What if the QB dated a cheerleader with a big bust?? Which one hasn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, NYJ1 said: Maybe I'm just paranoid but my personal feeling is if you draft Fields you're getting Dwayne Haskins. i know i was thinking the same thing when thinking about OSU qbs. it's not like haskins and fields are 4 or 5 seasons apart. they are both coming from nearly the same team culture. i can't help thinking this will knock fields down a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 He has 2 years left on a rookie contract and will earn $1.8 million in 2021 With a ton of cap space, you HAVE to put in a claim for him and bring him into camp. He's a talented athlete with NFL starting experience and a NJ native. If you keep Darnold, you can audition Haskins for the backup role. Even if you trade Darnold and draft a QB #2, it's a good idea - go into camp with Zach Wilson (or whoever), Dwayne Haskins, and James Morgan, let the new coaching staff see what they can do in preseason and go from there Even if his ceiling is competent NFL backup, it's money well spent. If he plays well in preseason, you have a decent backup or you can Teddy Bridgwater him or If he gets into camp and sucks, you cut him with no big cap hit If I'm Joe Douglass, I'm claiming him right now 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Yes! The Jets will be sure to land that coveted title of "worst team in NFL history" then! You're just jelly that we're getting Haskins while you're stuck with that little flaxen-haired beeyotch, Trevvy Trev. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, rangerous said: i know i was thinking the same thing when thinking about OSU qbs. it's not like haskins and fields are 4 or 5 seasons apart. they are both coming from nearly the same team culture. i can't help thinking this will knock fields down a bit. The schools with the most players in the HOF are Notre Dame and USC with 13 players each. Ohio state has 10 and only 1 player out of all those schools has a QB in the HOF and he was a 3rd rd choice.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Haskins, Winston, Marriota ..... all were prospects along the lines of the guys that people are advocating the Jets select at #2. It is a crapshoot. The jets can not afford to waste top picks on players that are crapshoots. Build the team first. then find a QB in the draft. in the meantime, signing any QB with starting experience is likely an upgrade from Sam's past performance. sh*t, even Winston or Mariota would be a big upgrade from Sam. Haskins was a silly pick and there were a litany of red flags going into the draft. Snyder just decided to be Snyder. No one else wanted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Bring back Gase and sign Dwayne Haskins. Solves both of this franchise's biggest issues! Too many wins? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I've seen Haskins play a bunch of times. There is a reason Washington flat out released him: He's awful. A disaster wrapped around a catastrophe. Never will be even a marginally competent NFL QB. LOL! @ the folks saying we should sign Haskins. I'll type slowly: HE....CAN'T...PLAY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, munchmemory said: I've seen Haskins play a bunch of times. There is a reason Washington flat out released him: He's awful. A disaster wrapped around a catastrophe. Never will be even a marginally competent NFL QB. LOL! @ the folks saying we should sign Haskins. I'll type slowly: HE....CAN'T...PLAY. Has there ever been any bum released that some here didn't want to sign?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Savage69 said: Has there ever been any bum released that some here didn't want to sign?? Not a one, Sav. Not a one. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe Jets fan said: How much of an ass hole do you have to be to get released one week from the end of the year. He requested his release so he could spend more time with his strippers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: He requested his release so he could spend more time with his strippers. At the Waffle House? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Haskins vows to be a better man and player! Get him before someone else snatches him up, JD! https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30613088/washington-football-team-releases-qb-dwayne-haskins-sources-say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackman55 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, Warfish said: Dan Snyder. This was another Dan Snyder-overrules-his-Coaches Draft Pick. Correct. Snyder's son went to Ohio State and convinced his dad to draft Haskins even though he was a disaster during the pre draft process. (Late for meetings and blew off scheduled interviews) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackman55 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: He has 2 years left on a rookie contract and will earn $1.8 million in 2021 With a ton of cap space, you HAVE to put in a claim for him and bring him into camp. He's a talented athlete with NFL starting experience and a NJ native. If you keep Darnold, you can audition Haskins for the backup role. Even if you trade Darnold and draft a QB #2, it's a good idea - go into camp with Zach Wilson (or whoever), Dwayne Haskins, and James Morgan, let the new coaching staff see what they can do in preseason and go from there Even if his ceiling is competent NFL backup, it's money well spent. If he plays well in preseason, you have a decent backup or you can Teddy Bridgwater him or If he gets into camp and sucks, you cut him with no big cap hit If I'm Joe Douglass, I'm claiming him right now NO! The problem with Haskins isn't talent, it's character and work ethic. It's not fair or smart to expose a new coach and a rookie QB to that environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: He has 2 years left on a rookie contract and will earn $1.8 million in 2021 With a ton of cap space, you HAVE to put in a claim for him and bring him into camp. He's a talented athlete with NFL starting experience and a NJ native. If you keep Darnold, you can audition Haskins for the backup role. Even if you trade Darnold and draft a QB #2, it's a good idea - go into camp with Zach Wilson (or whoever), Dwayne Haskins, and James Morgan, let the new coaching staff see what they can do in preseason and go from there Even if his ceiling is competent NFL backup, it's money well spent. If he plays well in preseason, you have a decent backup or you can Teddy Bridgwater him or If he gets into camp and sucks, you cut him with no big cap hit If I'm Joe Douglass, I'm claiming him right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: He has 2 years left on a rookie contract and will earn $1.8 million in 2021 With a ton of cap space, you HAVE to put in a claim for him and bring him into camp. He's a talented athlete with NFL starting experience and a NJ native. If you keep Darnold, you can audition Haskins for the backup role. Even if you trade Darnold and draft a QB #2, it's a good idea - go into camp with Zach Wilson (or whoever), Dwayne Haskins, and James Morgan, let the new coaching staff see what they can do in preseason and go from there Even if his ceiling is competent NFL backup, it's money well spent. If he plays well in preseason, you have a decent backup or you can Teddy Bridgwater him or If he gets into camp and sucks, you cut him with no big cap hit If I'm Joe Douglass, I'm claiming him right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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