Sounds like Russell Wilson’s camp is going scorched earth.

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, addage said:

Actually, your numbers support my point.  Mahomes and Wilson were on their rookie contracts when they won the SB.  Foles is the "journeyman type.  The "star" QBs are Manning and Brady.

My statement was that going the star route hasn't worked that well.  So, Brady won 4 and he was not a 1st round pick.  Manning once and 3 were won by rookie contracts and a journeyman.

You might want to think about those numbers when you want to bring in a Watson or Wilson with their big contracts.

And you might want to consider that eventually, all high end QBs get paid.  This implied plan to build around QBs on rookie deals and then let them go does not and will not work.  
 

Being a perennial contender requires a team to one day pay a QB a sh*t ton of money.  Period.

[doitny]

good thing Jamal didn't sign a extension yet. hes a FA at the end of the year. after that he will go home to Dallas

[Philc1]

16 hours ago, Beerfish said:

The olines have not been tremendous but not nearly as bad as people say, he holds the ball all day long.

[Philc1]

4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And you might want to consider that eventually, all high end QBs get paid.  This implied plan to build around QBs on rookie deals and then let them go does not and will not work.  
 

Being a perennial contender requires a team to one day pay a QB a sh*t ton of money.  Period.

Wilson’s contract wasn’t the reason they traded two firsts, both of which could have been used to repair a crappy OL.

 

Btw Brandon Shell the JAG RT forcing Wilson to demand a trade.  And I thought that wasn’t a “premium position”?

[Philc1]

15 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

I don’t think Russ is a right fit for this team. We’re in rebuild mode, and Wilson is exactly a spring chicken. I can’t see Douglas giving up a ton of picks for him 

But for Watson yes?  

[Dunnie]

Damn... If the jets get Watson and Seahawks lose Russ, Jamal head is going to explode

Yeah ... cause a 4-12 , one playoff win guy will make him soooooo envious. Jamal would want to go to a place where all the $$$ are getting eaten up by one player.. dude wants to get paid..

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[32EBoozer]

6 hours ago, doitny said:

good thing Jamal didn't sign a extension yet. hes a FA at the end of the year. after that he will go home to Dallas

If Wilson leaves, that Hawks defense is going to be on the field all day exposing Adams even more

[Jetsfan80]

11 hours ago, doitny said:

good thing Jamal didn't sign a extension yet. hes a FA at the end of the year. after that he will go home to Dallas

Rock and a hard place for Seattle.  Re-sign him, and they're overpaying the most overrated player in the NFL at a position of no importance.  Franchise him, and they deal with Adams hissy fits for an extra year, and he might even try to pull a Le'Veon.  Let him walk as a FA, and they just paid two 1sts and a 3rd for 2 years of sh*tty SS play.  

[nycdan]

If the Jets finish with a better record than the Seahawks next year, Jamal's Twitter account is going to be fire.

I'm here for it, popcorn ready.

[32EBoozer]

4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Rock and a hard place for Seattle.  Re-sign him, and they're overpaying the most overrated player in the NFL at a position of no importance.  Franchise him, and they deal with Adams hissy fits for an extra year, and he might even try to pull a Le'Veon.  Let him walk as a FA, and they just paid two 1sts and a 3rd for 2 years of sh*tty SS play.  

Or they could  consider the franchize tag. Buy's Seattle a year to see how he plays before committing top $ to him. Either way they are screwed.

[Jetsfan80]

8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Rock and a hard place for Seattle.  Re-sign him, and they're overpaying the most overrated player in the NFL at a position of no importance.  Franchise him, and they deal with Adams hissy fits for an extra year, and he might even try to pull a Le'Veon.  Let him walk as a FA, and they just paid two 1sts and a 3rd for 2 years of sh*tty SS play.  

 

Just now, 32EBoozer said:

Or they could  consider the franchize tag. Buy's Seattle a year to see how he plays before committing top $ to him. Either way they are screwed.

 

I mentioned the problem with that thought.  

[addage]

16 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And you might want to consider that eventually, all high end QBs get paid.  This implied plan to build around QBs on rookie deals and then let them go does not and will not work.  
 

Being a perennial contender requires a team to one day pay a QB a sh*t ton of money.  Period.

Sure. But what standard do you use in deciding who to extend and who to let walk.

If the market sets QB comp too high, the quality of the QB has to be high as well. Otherwise, the roster suffers and the team plays poorly.

The Goff trade is my example. They paid to get him off their books. They would have been better off letting him walk than extending him. 

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, addage said:

Sure. But what standard do you use in deciding who to extend and who to let walk.

If the market sets QB comp too high, the quality of the QB has to be high as well. Otherwise, the roster suffers and the team plays poorly.

The Goff trade is my example. They paid to get him off their books. They would have been better off letting him walk than extending him. 

And neither Watson nor Wilson are a Goff.  They are both elite QB's.  One just entering his prime, one who is still in it.  

[addage]

6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And neither Watson nor Wilson are a Goff.  They are both elite QB's.  One just entering his prime, one who is still in it.  

Dreams are good.  But neither is coming to the Jets.  But you have 60 days or so to enjoy it.  

[Jetsfan4life90]

On 2/25/2021 at 12:59 PM, oatmeal said:

Seriously I will never understand the logic of some on this forum, bash literal top 5 QBs, squash the achievements and tools of a talented rookie QB class BUT WILL DEFEND THE LITERAL WORST QB IN THE LEAGUE

Truly amazing stuff 

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's literal stockholm syndrome, lol. These fans have become so indoctrinated with bad QB play, that they couldn't stand the sight of a top and elite QB in here like a Watson, Wilson, etc. 

[Jetsfan4life90]

1 hour ago, addage said:

Dreams are good.  But neither is coming to the Jets.  But you have 60 days or so to enjoy it.  

Maybe not Wilson, but to rule out Watson coming here? Lol 

[Lizard King]

8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And neither Watson nor Wilson are a Goff.  They are both elite QB's.  One just entering his prime, one who is still in it.  

I really don’t want Russell Wilson. The league has figured him out. 

[Philc1]

17 hours ago, nycdan said:

If the Jets finish with a better record than the Seahawks next year, Jamal's Twitter account is going to be fire.

I'm here for it, popcorn ready.

 

[Philc1]

4 hours ago, Lizard King said:

I really don’t want Russell Wilson. The league has figured him out. 

[K_O_Brien]

 

[Philc1]

6 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

 

But but he’s playing with Jamalpro!

 

offer Seattle Sam and the two Adams picks back

[oatmeal]

9 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

 

WOWWWWWWWWWWWW

 

its going down!!! 
 

On another note, it seems MANY teams like this rookie class of QBs 

 

[mrcoops]

7 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

But but he’s playing with Jamalpro!

 

offer Seattle Sam and the two Adams picks back

Nice idea....though next year's Seattle pick could be juicy if Russ isn't on the their team any more.

[Philc1]

8 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

WOWWWWWWWWWWWW

 

its going down!!! 
 

On another note, it seems MANY teams like this rookie class of QBs 

 

Good.  Maybe it helps us get Russ for something reasonable 

[Philc1]

7 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Nice idea....though next year's Seattle pick could be juicy if Russ isn't on the their team any more.

But they got Adams and his 8 sacks on 98 blitz plays!

[K_O_Brien]

 

Wonder which personnel decisions Wilson is upset about? 

[Philc1]

1 minute ago, K_O_Brien said:

 

Wonder which personnel decisions Wilson is upset about? 

Incredible how both the Jets and Knicks made out like bandits trading away their divas after getting laughed at by the media

[pointman]

1 hour ago, K_O_Brien said:

 

YES!! My dream is happening! Jamal is going to be in Seattle without Russell and they're going to suck again! May Jamal play for a losing team for the duration of his career. 

[chad2coles]

On 2/26/2021 at 2:33 AM, Philc1 said:

But for Watson yes?  

Deshaun Watson is a little more than a year older than Joe Burrow.

[Dcat]

If Seattle trades away Wilson, then JD better not trade that Seattle 2022 1st round pick.  It has an outstanding chance of being a top 5 pick.   

 

[Dcat]

1 minute ago, Dcat said:

If Seattle trades away Wilson, then JD better not trade that Seattle 2022 1st round pick.  It has an outstanding chance of being a top 5 pick.   

 

p.s.  Luv to the Prez.

[Beerfish]

54 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

 

Wonder which personnel decisions Wilson is upset about? 

 

Wilson is delusional.  Top 5 of all time?  No.  and holding him back?  The team caved into his wants offense wise last year and let him chuck it all over the field.

[Guilhermezmc]

Start looking some tape on Kayvon Thibodeaux and Derek Stingley Jr 'cause we're picking high next year boys.

[Seibelt]

4 hours ago, Dcat said:

If Seattle trades away Wilson, then JD better not trade that Seattle 2022 1st round pick.  It has an outstanding chance of being a top 5 pick.   

 

Absolutely correct!

We can win the Super Bowl AND have the #1 pick. Stay thirsty my friends.....

[The Count of Monte Cristo]

On 2/26/2021 at 12:27 PM, Jetsfan80 said:

Rock and a hard place for Seattle.  Re-sign him, and they're overpaying the most overrated player in the NFL at a position of no importance.  Franchise him, and they deal with Adams hissy fits for an extra year, and he might even try to pull a Le'Veon.  Let him walk as a FA, and they just paid two 1sts and a 3rd for 2 years of sh*tty SS play.  

It's kind of delicious, isn't it?