Popular Post NYJ1 Posted August 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2021 Not sure if everyone was aware Trumaine Johnson still costs us 8 million in dead money? Meanwhile, all of our current corners combined are less than that amount. Thanks a lot Mike Macagnan you babbling, f*cking IDIOT!! 6 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Jetstream Posted August 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Seems the posters point was he's still counting against our cap...so IT's not the past... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Big Mac is the gift that keeps on giving 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fings1 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Living in the past...lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Rasmussen Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Big Mac is the gift that keeps on givingLike Herpes!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Origen Posted August 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2021 $8 million bucks burning a hole in your pocket? Sunk money is sunk money, no point in making oneself more miserable as a Jets fan than you already need to be. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jetstream said: Seems the posters point was he's still counting against our cap...so IT's not the past... Bobby Bonilla is still getting paid by the NY Mets. sh*t happens. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted August 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2021 This will be about Jamal on a seahawk fan forum 2 years from now. As for mccagnan that was not even his worst signing. I still rate the Enunwa deal being worse overall. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: Not sure if everyone was aware Trumaine Johnson still costs us 8 million in dead money? Meanwhile, all of our current corners combined are less than that amount. Thanks a lot Mike Macagnan you babbling, f*cking IDIOT!! Yep. Enunwa is 3.6 and Bell is 6 mil I believe. It turns out Macc was bad. really bad. Jd doesn't get enough credit for the clean out aspect of the job he's done imo. Mitigating the hits from losers who don't contribute while creaitng an entire draft worth of additional draft capital in the process. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Beerfish said: This will be about Jamal on a seahawk fan forum 2 years from now. As for mccagnan that was not even his worst signing. I still rate the Enunwa deal being worse overall. 100%. SIgning a guy to injury guarantees WHILE on IR has to be the finest agent wrangling in NFL history. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, GREENBEAN said: Yep. Enunwa is 3.6 and Bell is 6 mil I believe. It turns out Macc was bad. really bad. Jd doesn't get enough credit for the clean out aspect of the job he's done imo. Mitigating the hits from losers who don't contribute while creaitng an entire draft worth of additional draft capital in the process. Just think about it Greenbean.... If we still had all that wasted money... 8+3.6+6= 17.6 million What other big name player might be a NYJ to help Zach with his development? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: 100%. SIgning a guy to injury guarantees WHILE on IR has to be the finest agent wrangling in NFL history. Or a guy with an IQ comparable to that of a turnip..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Dead Money NameCap Number Trumaine Johnson. $8,000,000 Sam Darnold. $5,019,581 Le'Veon Bell. $4,000,000 Quincy Enunwa. $3,600,000 Kelechi Osemele. $3,128,824 Henry Anderson. $1,333,334 Bennett Jackson. $100,000 TOTAL. $24,473,819 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jet Nut Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 55 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: Just think about it Greenbean.... If we still had all that wasted money... 8+3.6+6= 17.6 million What other big name player might be a NYJ to help Zach with his development? Every team carries dead money against their cap, its part of the game. Nothing shocking here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, GREENBEAN said: 100%. SIgning a guy to injury guarantees WHILE on IR has to be the finest agent wrangling in NFL history. "My client may be injury prone, has had 1/2 of one good year, is only good if he plays physical and currently has a broken neck but we want injury guarantees!" Mccagnan: "Where do I sign!?!?!" 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, NYJ1 said: Just think about it Greenbean.... If we still had all that wasted money... 8+3.6+6= 17.6 million What other big name player might be a NYJ to help Zach with his development? i like that JD just decided to peel the bandaid off. Take as much of the hit now and get it done. Rather than keeping scrubs around because they are getting paid. Im pretty sure we're clean from all of that next year. So we will see what we use it on huh? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: As for mccagnan that was not even his worst signing. I still rate the Enunwa deal being worse overall. But man, those 10 plays Enunwa put up over 4 seasons really made us love him and got him PAID. What a waste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 13 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Bobby Bonilla is still getting paid by the NY Mets. sh*t happens. don't be dissing bo bo. the wilpons got a free loan of 6 million for a few years when they deferred bo-bo's salary. it's not his fault they invested with madoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 12 hours ago, NYJ1 said: Just think about it Greenbean.... If we still had all that wasted money... 8+3.6+6= 17.6 million What other big name player might be a NYJ to help Zach with his development? that's enough to pay half of adam's guaranteed money. i think one issue is that dead cap money is (or should) be a one year thing. assuming douglas does his homework the jets should be paying out so much. it would be interesting to know what the league average is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 12 hours ago, Larz said: Dead Money NameCap Number Trumaine Johnson. $8,000,000 Sam Darnold. $5,019,581 Le'Veon Bell. $4,000,000 Quincy Enunwa. $3,600,000 Kelechi Osemele. $3,128,824 Henry Anderson. $1,333,334 Bennett Jackson. $100,000 TOTAL. $24,473,819 Gonna be able to have another nice FA next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 No. Macc wasn't good. But I can't blame Maccagnan for Trumaine Johnson. He tried to get us an A+ #1 CB. The only one I blame about Trumaine Johnson is Trumaine Johnson himself; he got paid and quit trying. (players deserve blame too especially lazy ones). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 15 hours ago, Randy Rasmussen said: Like Herpes! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Another herpes joke because 25% of the people have it and you are probably one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 15 hours ago, Beerfish said: This will be about Jamal on a seahawk fan forum 2 years from now. As for mccagnan that was not even his worst signing. I still rate the Enunwa deal being worse overall. It certainly made less sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Scoop24 said: Gonna be able to have another nice FA next year. Agree. I think it partially explains the 1 and 2 year deals JD has been pushing for 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Larz said: Agree. I think it partially explains the 1 and 2 year deals JD has been pushing for Yup. Short prove-it contracts are key to clearing out dead money. Or at least it stops creating more of it while the current stuff pays out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Origen said: $8 million bucks burning a hole in your pocket? Sunk money is sunk money, no point in making oneself more miserable as a Jets fan than you already need to be. Given no one can undo what has been done, and the guy who did it was fired, I completely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Larz said: Dead Money NameCap Number Trumaine Johnson. $8,000,000 Sam Darnold. $5,019,581 Le'Veon Bell. $4,000,000 Quincy Enunwa. $3,600,000 Kelechi Osemele. $3,128,824 Henry Anderson. $1,333,334 Bennett Jackson. $100,000 TOTAL. $24,473,819 At least the last of the "dead money" on Mac's contract was paid out in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 21 hours ago, NYJ1 said: Not sure if everyone was aware Trumaine Johnson still costs us 8 million in dead money? Meanwhile, all of our current corners combined are less than that amount. Thanks a lot Mike Macagnan you babbling, f*cking IDIOT!! In fairness to Mac, he was better than our entire secondary when he was in his contract year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 20 hours ago, NYJ1 said: Just think about it Greenbean.... If we still had all that wasted money... 8+3.6+6= 17.6 million What other big name player might be a NYJ to help Zach with his development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 21 hours ago, NYJ1 said: Not sure if everyone was aware Trumaine Johnson still costs us 8 million in dead money? Meanwhile, all of our current corners combined are less than that amount. Thanks a lot Mike Macagnan you babbling, f*cking IDIOT!! If it makes you feel any better, that $8MM (and more) was carried over from before - unused the prior season(s) - in the form of a higher cap ceiling this year. It was arranged that way in case we wanted to have more room to sign someone else back then, but didn't. So it seems like a cap penalty after the fact, but in reality it isn't. It's an $8MM penalty now as a sort of late bill for having using that $8MM benefit in the past, which itself came with a higher cap ceiling now. The net is zero. The mistake was signing him to such a huge contract in the first place (or really, signing him at all); his dead cap figure is neither here nor there, though. No argument from me with regard to your last sentence whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 21 hours ago, Larz said: Dead Money NameCap Number Trumaine Johnson. $8,000,000 Sam Darnold. $5,019,581 Le'Veon Bell. $4,000,000 Quincy Enunwa. $3,600,000 Kelechi Osemele. $3,128,824 Henry Anderson. $1,333,334 Bennett Jackson. $100,000 TOTAL. $24,473,819 And uncoincidentally, the Jets rolled over ~$26MM in 2020's cap space to 2021. If those players' payouts hit when they were paid, there'd be no dead cap for them, but then there'd be no rollover either. The crime was in signing/drafting these players in the first place, not the dead cap figures after the team took advantage of artificially lowering their cap hits in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 No McDonald's Big Mac GIFs yet? Genuinely shocked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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