Patriots Releasing Stephon Gilmore(Traded to Panthers)

[jamesr]

1 hour ago, EM31 said:

Bill Belichick is pretty damned smart figuring out when a player is no longer a good cost vs reward proposition.  Other than Brady that is.  Either damaged goods or wants too much money or skills declining or simply that he has someone else who is almost as good or better for much less money.  He pretty much always seems to get this stuff right.

Much of the league has made missteps assuming they can root for (and find) treasure in the Patriots discard pile.

Pass

Patsies are #4 against the pass without Gilmore, who wants a ton more money. They've seen they are fine without him. He's also a potential injury risk ongoing.

It ain't broke, so don't pay a ton of money to fix it. Makes perfect sense.

[DetroitRed]

3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

 

My first reaction is obviously "sign this beast" but I have to think there's more to this for the Pats to just release him. Something is going on. Maybe he just wants to go play with Brady in Tampa.

 

Or maybe Bill’s failed spending spree and losing record without Brady is starting to catch up to him

[DetroitRed]

2 hours ago, doitny said:

your right.

hes 69 and 48 wins away from being the all time winningest coach in NFL history. he is not rebuilding.

At this pace, he’s about 7 years away

[Green DNA]

1 hour ago, flgreen said:

Who Can Afford Stephon Gilmore?

The Jaguars, Panthers, Eagles, Broncos, and Football Team could pretty much do a straight contract without void years if they wanted.

?

[Doggin94it]

There is exactly zero reason for a player of that caliber to sign with this team other than money, and there's exactly zero reason for this team to give him that money.

Our plan was to develop young, cheap CBs in a system that doesn't lean on having stars at CB. That plan is working better than almost anyone could have expected. And we're not close to contending this year. So why would they want to throw big money at an older CB on a short term deal that would retard the development of younger cheaper players?

[bostonmajet]

So, he salary was guaranteed this year so unless he is traded, they don't save money. Is it that he wants more money and they were afraid he was going to be a problem? Or, is there setback clause? Or, are the Pats being good guys and letting him move from sinking ship?

[Bungaman]

4 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

They couldn't  agree on a contract. It isn't  so eyebrow raising. The Pats are rebuilding for the next 2 or 3 seasons. 

They are very hard up against the cap - they would have had to cut others to resign him. Hope Belicheat enjoys all those expensive TE's he signed in the off-season. He better hope no one gets hurt.

[Beerfish]

This is a move that anyone else in the league would just get KILLED by the talking nfl media heads but because it is Bellichik it will be a smart move.

For every good 'get rid of him too early' move by the pats there has been a terrible one.  Chandler Jones for example.

[New York Mick]

I’d rather them save the money and use it on the oline

[KRL]

1 hour ago, DetroitRed said:

Or maybe Bill’s failed spending spree and losing record without Brady is starting to catch up to him

Agreed, Belichick knows his team isn't going anywhere.  So he cut bait

[BigRy56]

The Panthers hopped in and gave up a 6th for him? Really nicely done Carolina. That defense is scary good.

[Rhg1084]

 

[Rangers9]

They were willing to pick up that salary which is a big deal. I didn’t think JD would want to pay him. And the young Jets secondary is actually looking pretty good.

[Lith]

 

[slimjasi]

Threat title should be updated - he's a panther!

[doitny]

38 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

The Panthers hopped in and gave up a 6th for him? Really nicely done Carolina. That defense is scary good.

im not convinced its so good. the 1st real team they played they got lit up. 

[Doggin94it]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

This is a move that anyone else in the league would just get KILLED by the talking nfl media heads but because it is Bellichik it will be a smart move.

For every good 'get rid of him too early' move by the pats there has been a terrible one.  Chandler Jones for example.

Nah. J.C. Jackson is a number 1 corner and they aren't a contender this year. No reason not to do this

[Embrace the Suck]

7 hours ago, heymangold said:

i don't care.  sign him.

To what end? So we can have a large cap number, and a big name on the roster? What would be the point as we aren't a team on the cusp. He wouldn't make much of a difference, and he won't sign here anyway.

[Jetsfan80]

7 hours ago, IndianaJet said:

The “more” is the fact that he wants lots more money.  
 

I don’t see the Jets moving on this.  They’re not a $20 million CB away from competing. 

And this scheme doesn't invest heavily in CB's to begin with.  Paying Gilmore heavily to primarily be a zone corner would be a poor allocation of resources.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

7 hours ago, playtowinthegame said:

The Pats spent a lot during in the free agent frenzy period last March. Is that what rebuilding teams do?

We've been rebuilding for 50 years . We never do this ?????

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

6 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

He will be washed up by the 2023 season which is when we are making our Super Bowl run.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

2 hours ago, BigRy56 said:

The Panthers hopped in and gave up a 6th for him? Really nicely done Carolina. That defense is scary good.