Popular Post Warfish Posted November 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: "Jets had too many edge rushers" is not a phrase I am accustomed to hearing/reading. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 smart forward thinking here with this trade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, mrcoops said: Whoever would have thought that the Jets would have too many quality edge rushers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Interesting deal he just had a sack this last game… Wonder why JD gave up on him after just giving him a contract this past offseason Assets to move up for a QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alka Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Good move. Big drop off from 4th to 5th round. Plus Denver already has 5 loses, that pick should be near top of 4th. Read the fine print. It is a 2024 4th round pick they are getting, not a 2023 4th round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 hours ago, BigRy56 said: Probably has to do with JJ getting healthy and Huff emerging. Not bad to move into the 4th round for a rotational pass rusher that may be but it's a future 4th rounder and the jets also gave up a 5th rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 hours ago, prime21 said: Russ will continue to have Denver in the top 10 of the draft. Good for us in the 4th. It’s also the type of pick JD can/has use(d) as a bargaining chip for a trade up or trade back in targeting a quality player during the draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I honestly have no problem with this trade at all, but it's also worth a chuckle to see some of the twisted logic some try to go through to have absolutely everything fit their narrative. It wasn't a bad deal, but not exactly worth some great praise either when a GM essentially pays over $4M to trade up a middle round 2 years later. Many would be similarly applauding the move if the same trade was going in the opposite direction right now, citing it as merely swapping future mid-rounders for a young pass rusher that they didn't even have to pay a bonus for, with another 2.5 years still on the deal. That's not to say it was a bad move, but this is pretty run-of-the-mill bottom of the roster stuff that we've even seen the likes of Maccagnan make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, RJIII said: When the fück is the organization going to "trade" for someone versus trading people off? James Robinson. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: I honestly have no problem with this trade at all, but it's also worth a chuckle to see some of the twisted logic some try to go through to have absolutely everything fit their narrative. It wasn't a bad deal, but not exactly worth some great praise either when a GM essentially pays over $4M to trade up a middle round 2 years later. Many would be similarly applauding the move if the same trade was going in the opposite direction right now, citing it as merely swapping future mid-rounders for a young pass rusher that they didn't even have to pay a bonus for, with another 2.5 years still on the deal. That's not to say it was a bad move, but this is pretty run-of-the-mill bottom of the roster stuff that we've even seen the likes of Maccagnan make. These are a lot of words devoted to a nothing burger trade. Dare I say more words than were devoted in the rest of the thread combined. The lady doth protest too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On one channel or website they said the Jets got a 4th and a 5th for Martin but It wasn't. They got a 4th for Martin and a 5th. On the draft value chart that is between 20-70 points based on where the teams select. You'd think Denver will be drafting in the higher end of that so the value is about another lower 4th to 5th round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 hours ago, BurntDice said: JD does seem to value 4th rounders much more than 5th. Max and Clemons were both taken in the 4th. The 5th+ tend to be special teams players and guys who need lots of time to develop or injury concern guys I'm pretty sure everyone values 4th round picks over 5th round picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 If they needed room, they should have cut Curry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Absolutely bizarre how he was playing so many snaps with Huff inactive in those early games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: These are a lot of words devoted to a nothing burger trade. Dare I say more words than were devoted in the rest of the thread combined. The lady doth protest too much. Are you trying to suggest me being long-winded is in some way unique? That might very well be one of the most absurd arguments on JN yet. You should actually be appreciative of how relatively concise it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Are you trying to suggest me being long-winded is in some way unique? That might very well be one of the most absurd arguments on JN yet. You should actually be appreciative of how relatively concise it was. You hadn’t made too many vintage lengthy BG posts lately so I guess I’d forgotten! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: You hadn’t made too many vintage lengthy BG posts lately so I guess I’d forgotten! I haven't had enough hours available on the schedule to fully involve myself in the Wilson discussions, otherwise those would quickly make a comeback. Stupid job expects me to work during the day now.... the audacity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: I haven't had enough hours available on the schedule to fully involve myself in the Wilson discussions, otherwise those would quickly make a comeback. Stupid job expects me to work during the day now.... the audacity. Those douchebags!!! How dare they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 9 hours ago, Bleedin Green said: I honestly have no problem with this trade at all, but it's also worth a chuckle to see some of the twisted logic some try to go through to have absolutely everything fit their narrative. It wasn't a bad deal, but not exactly worth some great praise either when a GM essentially pays over $4M to trade up a middle round 2 years later. Many would be similarly applauding the move if the same trade was going in the opposite direction right now, citing it as merely swapping future mid-rounders for a young pass rusher that they didn't even have to pay a bonus for, with another 2.5 years still on the deal. That's not to say it was a bad move, but this is pretty run-of-the-mill bottom of the roster stuff that we've even seen the likes of Maccagnan make. Its moves like this that allows him to trade up for Hall and Avt.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Jacob Martin was insurance. This trade freed up his cap space with a future draft pick upgrade. It was a great trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooooon Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Gave him 16 mil+ just 8 months ago and now trade him to move up 1 round middle of 2024 draft. Plus there is a dead cap hit next year. Hardly genius roster maneuvering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 good deal he was a JAG but 2024 wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Absolutely bizarre how he was playing so many snaps with Huff inactive in those early games. I think Huff is more of a specialist. Pass rush only. Martin is a worse pass rusher, but more complete. Like having too many QBs, having too many pass rushers is an asset where you can always get something back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 13 hours ago, Rangers9 said: On one channel or website they said the Jets got a 4th and a 5th for Martin but It wasn't. They got a 4th for Martin and a 5th. On the draft value chart that is between 20-70 points based on where the teams select. You'd think Denver will be drafting in the higher end of that so the value is about another lower 4th to 5th round pick. I think it is more like 90-1 point being the max spread. That is anywhere from pick 103 to the last pick in the draft. I do not believe either extreme is likely. Neither the Jets or Broncos probably won't be particularly horrible or great by next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, varjet said: Jacob Martin was insurance. This trade freed up his cap space with a future draft pick upgrade. It was a great trade. Exactly. I like it because he's not merely not needed. He was insurance for Lawson - or Lawson and Huff - and maybe to push JFM coming off a bleh '22 (or at worst to allow moving him inside on passing downs without leaving no one in his place). With both Lawson and Huff on the field, plus drafting JJ and Clemons, the insurance is no longer necessary. The even bigger issue with him not being needed today is he's not going to be needed next year either. That's the main factor at work here imo, because another $1MM or more of next year's salary was fully guaranteed, so that doesn't go away by cutting him (and cut him they clearly would have). There's no way they'd have kept him next year anyway, at that $1MM plus another $3.25MM in additional salary. It's just a salary dump, and Douglas got paid to do it (often teams give up something in exchange for cap space for a player they don't need). It's a smart trade because he struck while the iron was hot, with Martin just getting a sack this past weekend in limited snaps. Absent that 1 sack it's possible no one would've made any offer at all, even with Douglas actively shopping him; likewise Denver gets a warm body to replace Chubb, with little enough salary today + future $ guaranteed they can wait plenty before making a decision on him for '23. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 19 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: Interesting deal he just had a sack this last game… Wonder why JD gave up on him after just giving him a contract this past offseason The realized Huff is better and cheaper and fourth round picks are in his wheelhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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