SoJetsy Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Now that he’s back I believe he hijacked the whole plan of Saleh and Douglas to build and develop. Instead of just admitting Zach was a bust or wrong fit in NY now they make a desperate move to put butts in seats, typical Woody. Why not just let Mike Lafluer grow as a play caller and play Mike White or Jimmy G until they can find the guy. I smell Favre all over, then 10 years of obscurity again! 3 14 6 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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k-met57 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 i am judging myself as i am replying to this 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 32EBoozer Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Now that he’s back I believe he hijacked the whole plan of Saleh and Douglas to build and develop. Instead of just admitting Zach was a bust or wrong fit in NY now they make a desperate move to put butts in seats, typical Woody. Why not just let Mike Lafluer grow as a play caller and play Mike White or Jimmy G until they can find the guy. I smell Favre all over, then 10 years of obscurity again! MLF lost the offensive locker room….IMO Aloof and hardliner with Moore, Zach & Mims We have a young core of players. The Parcels way doesn’t work in this generation of player advocacy. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gastineau Lives Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Now that he’s back I believe he hijacked the whole plan of Saleh and Douglas to build and develop. Instead of just admitting Zach was a bust or wrong fit in NY now they make a desperate move to put butts in seats, typical Woody. Why not just let Mike Lafluer grow as a play caller and play Mike White or Jimmy G until they can find the guy. I smell Favre all over, then 10 years of obscurity again! Obscurity? We’ve sucked for twelve years in the biggest media market in the world. Where are you getting this ten year estimate from btw? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetluv58 Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 Woody probably wants to win now before he goes to the big woodpile in the sky. Lots of us are in the same boat. 13 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrebetOverKeyshawn Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 It’s probably hard when he sees other teams routinely jump from 4/5 wins to the playoffs 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 At this point it appears evident that Woody is in meetings expressing his opinions about football which he is not qualified. But I don’t think he has caused any trouble yet. Letting MLF go was the right move. He was not up for this job. it does not make sense to move on from Wilson unless someone trades for him. We are watching and waiting on the QB. If we overpay for Rodgers Woody was behind that. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 20 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Instead of just admitting Zach was a bust or wrong fit in NY now they make a desperate move to put butts in seats, typical Woody OR... Instead of just admitting Zach was a bust or wrong fit in NY, JD (20-46 record) and Saleh (11-23 record) make a move to save their jobs of which they are woefully inept at. This is MUCH more likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChewyandtheJets Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 the Brett Favre season (which was a good ride until injury). It was followed by back to back seasons where we won 4 road playoff games and came up a game short of the SB. Gotta get your facts right. 9 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 12 minutes ago, varjet said: At this point it appears evident that Woody is in meetings expressing his opinions about football which he is not qualified. But I don’t think he has caused any trouble yet. Letting MLF go was the right move. He was not up for this job. it does not make sense to move on from Wilson unless someone trades for him. We are watching and waiting on the QB. If we overpay for Rodgers Woody was behind that. Then again, it is his money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 29 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Now that he’s back I believe he hijacked the whole plan of Saleh and Douglas to build and develop. Instead of just admitting Zach was a bust or wrong fit in NY now they make a desperate move to put butts in seats, typical Woody. Why not just let Mike Lafluer grow as a play caller and play Mike White or Jimmy G until they can find the guy. I smell Favre all over, then 10 years of obscurity again! You may be right but being 7-4 and losing 6 straight to end the season can cause any owner to do that. Maybe if Jets made the playoffs as they should have he would have stayed out of it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Not sure if needing a QB is desperation. Watching the Jets strike out on Jimmy, Rodgers and Carr is when things will get interesting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 If he did nothing you would call him cheap and MLF was terrible if his name was Chuck Smith and not Lafleur you wouldn't care. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freestater Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 13 minutes ago, ChewyandtheJets said: the Brett Favre season (which was a good ride until injury). It was followed by back to back seasons where we won 4 road playoff games and came up a game short of the SB. Gotta get your facts right. Right? That would be sooooooo terrible. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Joe Douglas drafted Zach Wilson….Period. Stop. Does that mean he’s a terrible GM? No. But let’s not recreate history 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post playtowinthegame Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 45 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Why not just let Mike Lafluer grow 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 39 minutes ago, Jetluv58 said: Woody probably wants to win now before he goes to the big woodpile in the sky. Lots of us are in the same boat. Yep, my first thought was.. Why the hell wouldn’t he be desperate? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 49 minutes ago, ChrebetOverKeyshawn said: It’s probably hard when he sees other teams routinely jump from 4/5 wins to the playoffs It takes a special level of ineptitude not to make the playoffs for this long in a league driven by parity (at least where simply making the playoffs is concerned - title contention is another story). And that’s especially true now that there are 3 Wild Card spots versus 2. Granted, we got a little unlucky in 2015: About 80 % of the time a 10-6 team made the postseason under the old format. But that was still the only playoff-caliber year out of the last 12, and even if we made it that year, I believe we’d still be tied with Denver for the longest drought (and they won the SB that year so even it’s not exactly comparable droughts). Pathetic. Woody blows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 58 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Now that he’s back I believe he hijacked the whole plan of Saleh and Douglas to build and develop. Instead of just admitting Zach was a bust or wrong fit in NY now they make a desperate move to put butts in seats, typical Woody. Why not just let Mike Lafluer grow as a play caller and play Mike White or Jimmy G until they can find the guy. I smell Favre all over, then 10 years of obscurity again! I don't think its all that bad. Woody is a fine owner ... All owners sometimes stick their nose in when they shouldn't ... especially on things like 1st picks and QBs ... that is about it. Edited February 5 by Dunnie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Woody had nothing to do with Lafleur getting fired. He got himself fired. Even my mother could coach like he did, “Zach, go through your first 2 reads. If you see nothing, run.” Boy did he run. He ran backwards. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 7 minutes ago, Dunnie said: I don't think its all that bad. Woody is a fine owner ... All owners sometimes stick their nose in when they shouldn't ... especially on things like 1st picks and QBs ... that is about it. Now evaluate Woody’s hires at GM and HC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Now evaluate Woody’s hires at GM and HC. There is no defending that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 You had players cursing out Lafleur in practice. MW sucks and Jimmy G can’t stay healthy. What other bright ideas do you have? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Dunnie said: There is no defending that. Yet you still call Woody a “fine” owner? That’s like, the whole deal of being a good owner: Hiring some good football people to run the show. And he sucks horribly at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 55 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Now that he’s back I believe he hijacked the whole plan of Saleh and Douglas to build and develop. Instead of just admitting Zach was a bust or wrong fit in NY now they make a desperate move to put butts in seats, typical Woody. Why not just let Mike Lafluer grow as a play caller and play Mike White or Jimmy G until they can find the guy. I smell Favre all over, then 10 years of obscurity again! I have just the opposite reaction. If Woody truly "hijacked" the plan, he would have cleaned house last month or at the very least, canned Saleh for allowing the toxic environment that MLF created in the locker room to continue. Woody knows that arguably the two best run organizations in the NFL tried mightily to trade up to draft Zach and as such believes that he has the ability to be a good QB in this league, and that for two years the Jets have done everything in their power to ruin him. Therefore, he exercised his power as owner and told them to "fix" the problem. I'd call it Woody giving JD and Saleh a "mulligan." He believes in their plan, believes in them, but is letting them know that his tolerance for any more of this nonsense is gone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yet you still call Woody a “fine” owner? That’s like, the whole deal of being a good owner: Hiring some good football people to run the show. And he sucks horribly at it. He is not afraid to spend ... and that is the number one thing that i judge from ownership ..ala Dolan. Edited February 5 by Dunnie 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 8 minutes ago, Dunnie said: He is not afraid to spend ... and that is the number one thing that i judge from ownership ..ala Dolan. I mean, who cares in the NFL? This is a salary cap league with revenue sharing. There’s no excuse not to spend to the cap or close to it. And we have yet to make a big splash expensive coaching hire so there’s no real evidence of his “willingness” to spend there aside from having to pay 2 coaches (Mangini/Rex; Gase/Saleh) at once. I’m not calling him cheap here I’m just suggesting it doesn’t matter that he’s willing to spend if positive results don’t follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I mean, who cares in the NFL? This is a salary cap league with revenue sharing. There’s no excuse not to spend to the cap or close to it. And we have yet to make a big splash expensive coaching hire so there’s no real evidence of his “willingness” to spend there aside from having to pay 2 coaches (Mangini/Rex; Gase/Saleh) at once. I’m not calling him cheap here I’m just suggesting it doesn’t matter that he’s willing to spend if positive results don’t follow. I don't disagree with that.... at the end of the day ... being an owner is not a job ... the guy OWNS the team. He cannot be fired .. so. ... there are worse owners is all ... I hope he does better. Edited February 5 by Dunnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, SoJetsy said: Now that he’s back I believe he hijacked the whole plan of Saleh and Douglas to build and develop. Instead of just admitting Zach was a bust or wrong fit in NY now they make a desperate move to put butts in seats, typical Woody. Why not just let Mike Lafluer grow as a play caller and play Mike White or Jimmy G until they can find the guy. I smell Favre all over, then 10 years of obscurity again! This is 100% correct outside of the Lafluer stuff. He was an issue w/ his personality and needed to go. Rodgers or carr and this will epically fail and get everyone fired. Stay the course with the following: QB 1- Tannehill/Garopollo QB 2- Minshew QB 3- Zach Wilson I am still not convinced the Jets r in on Rodgers/Carr. Not going to crush Woody until I see what happens. Stay the course, Joe!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Jetluv58 said: big woodpile in the sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: This is 100% correct outside of the Lafluer stuff. He was an issue w/ his personality and needed to go. Rodgers or carr and this will epically fail and get everyone fired. Stay the course with the following: QB 1- Tannehill/Garopollo QB 2- Minshew QB 3- Zach Wilson I am still not convinced the Jets r in on Rodgers/Carr. Not going to crush Woody until I see what happens. Stay the course, Joe!!!!!!!!! You want Tannehill as our QB next season? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: You want Tannehill as our QB next season? Lol Yes, i wouldnt mind a guy who had his team as a #1 seed and played in an afc championship game recently to man the position for a year or 2 until we find or develop our young franchise qb. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Possible resurrection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Nobody wants to hear it because this is the most self-deluded fanbase in sports, but the OP is right. The Jets are making no secret of the fact that their Plan A this offseason is to trade a first round pick (at least) for a mercurial 39-year-old quarterback who was 16th in DYAR and 21st in DVOA last year. If that’s not desperate, I don’t know what is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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