Popular Post Guilhermezmc Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 Carl Lawson should be behind JJ and Huff in the depth chart Michael Carter should not make the team over Bam Knight 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Who is Carl Lawson? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GreenFish Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 Agree about Carl Lawson. I think MC is better than Bam Knight though. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 I think the depth chart matters less than # of snaps for each guy, but I would also like to see more of JJ and Huff (who both looked really good in preseason). JJ is a major breakout candidate. Michael carter outplayed Knight in preseason and was a draft pick and is a lockeroom leader. Hard to imagine Knight over Carter. 4 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, GreenFish said: Agree about Carl Lawson. I think MC2 is better than Bam Knight though. MC1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, Jet_Engine1 said: Who is Carl Lawson? 2 1 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 It appears JJ is the starter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Lawson might get Wally Pipped by JJ, but Huff is not an every down player. I like Knight, but -in this particular RB room- it’s Carter who brings something extra in the form of receiving ability. So yeah, they’re unpopular with me. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: Carl Lawson should be behind JJ and Huff in the depth chart This isn’t unpopular. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 The moon landing was faked. 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 Lawson is seriously underrated around here. It’s annoying he’s hurt but he’s the best edge on the roster right now. next year could be a different story but man jets fans just give up on guys way too soon 4 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, Matt39 said: It appears JJ is the starter I don't see it with JJ at all sorry. Every sack he gets seems to be on a break down in the pocket he never runs clean or pushes a guy back to the QB . McDonald and Huff are both better IMHO. Clemons will be spending more time inside this year but he's great against the run on the outside. I'm just waiting for 1 play where JJ clearly beats his guy and gets a sack Like Huff seems to do routinely . JJ is like mop up duty at DE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, slats said: Lawson might get Wally Pipped by JJ, but Huff is not an every down player. I like Knight, but -in this particular RB room- it’s Carter who brings something extra in the form of receiving ability. So yeah, they’re unpopular with me. Carter did look super suspect picking up the blitz. Was it Simmons? The guy isn't even big. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: Carter did look super suspect picking up the blitz. Was it Simmons? The guy isn't even big. Carter did nothing last year and did nothing in pre season . With Cook and Hall healthy I'm not sure he even touches the football more than 3 or 4 times a game if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, #27TheDominator said: Carter did look super suspect picking up the blitz. Was it Simmons? The guy isn't even big. If they cared about pass protection from their RBs, they wouldn’t’ve signed Cook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: I don't see it with JJ at all sorry. Every sack he gets seems to be on a break down in the pocket he never runs clean or pushes a guy back to the QB . McDonald and Huff are both better IMHO. Clemons will be spending more time inside this year but he's great against the run on the outside. I'm just waiting for 1 play where JJ clearly beats his guy and gets a sack Like Huff seems to do routinely . JJ is like mop up duty at DE You are comparing pass rush ability vs every down DE. I believe McDonald and Huff are both better as DPR, but give me Johnson as an every down DE right now. Lawson is the same. Sure it is usually just bullrush and motor, but that keeps you in your lane and helps stop the run. Meanwhile Lawson and Johnson are both fast enough to cover all the ground this scheme needs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, slats said: If they cared about pass protection from their RBs, they wouldn’t’ve signed Cook. I'll buy that, but when I watched I thought - "I could have done better than that." I'm in my mid-50s, so usually when I have that thought I think harder and quickly qualify it with "Maybe 20 years ago." This time I didn't qualify it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I thought this was going to be about.....well, you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Knight is one dimensional and Lawson has been underwhelming as a Jet and now is 4 or 5th best DL...maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Carter did look super suspect picking up the blitz. Was it Simmons? The guy isn't even big. It was a blown assignment by the OL. If I remember correctly the LT didn't block anyone and the right side blocked down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: The moon landing was faked. Gravity is a conspiracy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 To be the unpopular like the OP says Hardman - plays scared and if he does not have 30 yards of daylight he plays slow . Waste of Speed IMO Jermaine Johnson -- has no bend at all as a pass rusher and I'm still waiting for him to cleanly beat anyone. If you have the one play he did in preseason to prove me wrong vs a third stringer or street player Im really not interested. Michael Carter-- can't run the football period .... Cant block period ... Is just not going to make anyone pay for tackling him. Becton -- I think he's insane vs the run hence his RT designation .... but he can not pass block and that seemed evident yet again vs the Giants. Hope he pans out due to his run blocking but he needs to start dictating to speed rushers and stop waiting for them to come to him and maybe he does better. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, slats said: If they cared about pass protection from their RBs, they wouldn’t’ve signed Cook. Made the case why Cooks numbers were bad at Minny and it was because Cousins holds the ball longer than any other QB in the NFL by far. RB's are not pass blockers they are distractions to by 1 second vs guys that have just as much athlticism and outweigh them by 40 pounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: You are comparing pass rush ability vs every down DE. I believe McDonald and Huff are both better as DPR, but give me Johnson as an every down DE right now. Lawson is the same. Sure it is usually just bullrush and motor, but that keeps you in your lane and helps stop the run. Meanwhile Lawson and Johnson are both fast enough to cover all the ground this scheme needs. Good point and yes in this case like I stated before with the weight he lost toneing up I would much rather see him at LB also when it comes to LB I think Barnes will take over a starting role. Also keep in mind the Jets will not be playing anyone as an every down DE they use a rotation so JJ early downs and Huff/Mcdonald passing downs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Lawson has never been a closer. Still a good player to have but as I cautioned when we brought him in, he’ll never be a double-digit sack guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 54 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Agree about Carl Lawson. I think MC is better than Bam Knight though. In some ways, Carter reminds me of Blair Thomas. His side to side 1 yrd loss/pickups. I was high on him, but am quickly rethinking it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Claymation said: It was a blown assignment by the OL. If I remember correctly the LT didn't block anyone and the right side blocked down. Maybe, but it doesn't change my point. I watched it again. The right side blocked down and let Simmons come clean. Carter stepped right up to him and bumped him. Simmons put his hand behind Carter's neck and ran right by. Strange thing is that Carter stuck with him and ran after him and kept trying to block him as Rodgers scrambled out. Appreciated the effort, but it he was only worried about Simmons, why not pounce on him while he was on the ground? Just one bad rep and not really as bad as I remembered it. Just frustrating. I don't know that it was a true blown assignment. It was a Wink Martindale special. They had 7 guys between the tackles. 3 dropped and Simmons came around the Jets right. They had at least a hat on a hat, but the LT really did not block anybody. If Carter forced Simmons further wide it actually looked like a fairly clean pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Carl Lawson is irrelevant until he contributes something on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, jgb said: Lawson has never been a closer. Still a good player to have but as I cautioned when we brought him in, he’ll never be a double-digit sack guy. He's not a closer, but we are counting on Huff based on pass rush win rate. Huff's only closed 7.5 times in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 34 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: The moon landing was faked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Mecole Hardman sucks and it was a mistake picking him up. The Tony Adams hype is way way over the top. Our linebackers are still shaky as hell as a group and will be attacked mercilessly by other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Carter did nothing last year and did nothing in pre season . With Cook and Hall healthy I'm not sure he even touches the football more than 3 or 4 times a game if at all. Again - he had a sprained ankle last yr. and we all know about the ol issues last yr To say he did nothing this preseason isn't accurate. He only played in 2 games..against Carolina he had 4 carries for 19 yards..Against the Giants he had 4 carries for 1 yard. However, he had a long of 6 yards. So obviously he had at least one carry where yardage was lost. One aspect of his game that doesn't get talked about is his ability to score from 1 or 2 yards out. I know people will rip that and say big deal it's just a yard..However, he is very successful at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 58 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Who is Carl Lawson? Carl Lawson is the guy our fat bald genius GM brought in to be our star pass rusher. Cinn. his former team replaced him with Trey Hendrickson a better player with a better contract. CL continues his career as hardly ever been available. The next year Baldie proved his eye for talent against the Bengals again by signing Uzomah. CJ responded to his 3 year 24 mil contract with 21 receptions, the Bungholes replaces Uzo with Hayden Hurst who caught 52 balls at a cost of five million 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 58 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: The moon landing was faked. I was disappointed to learn that in former Soviet bloc countries, this isn’t as unpopular a view as it should be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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