Which of these veteran LTs would you choose?

[bonkertons]

Assuming we miss out on Alt and Fashanu.  Those are the only two guys who could step right from the draft to day-one starters.  

 

If you're not sure if you'll be able to draft one, you'll have to sign one during the FA period.  As far as I can tell, these will most likely be the options:

 

David Bakhtiari, 32 - GB (will likely be cut after this most recent season ending injury)

Tyron Smith, 33 - DAL

Jonah Williams, 26 - CIN

Trent Brown, 30 - NE

Mike Onwenu, 26 - NE (has been better at RT, but he can at least play LT and has some upside there)

 

These would be the main contenders.  No one will trade a starting LT, so it'll have to be one of these guys.  Williams is an interesting one.  He was a LT but got bounced to the right side after Cincy signed Orlando Brown.  Onwenu I would assume will be re-signed by New England, but if he isn't it'll probably be because he prices himself out.  I'd be hesitant to pay a guy like him $15M over 4 years or whatever it ends up being.  

 

I think the play would be to go for one of the 1 year guys, either Bakhtiari or Smith.  Worst case they buy you a season and you can look to draft your long-term player in 2025(or not, if Warren takes some big strides).  Best case, you sign one and STILL are able to draft Alt or Fashanu.  Having a guy like that on a one year deal shouldn't prevent you from drafting either of these kids.  Worst case you have a $10M depth tackle for one year, much like Brown was this year - only this new OT will actually be able to play at a decent level.

 

My gut says it'll be Bakhtiari.  He's ARod's boy, and I'd imagine he'll come pretty cheaply to reunite with his BFF.  That cheap contract should allow us to do some things elsewhere, be it sign or trade for an expensive WR as well as pay Huff.  Maybe address DT2 as well.  He's a bigger health risk than Becton and AVT combined, so you'll absolutely need to build up your depth accordingly, but it wouldn't be the worst move in the world - at least if the plan is to bring in a one year stopgap.  

[Rich Thornburgh]

Bakhtiari - most likely who we are getting but even more injury prone than Becton 

Tyron Smith - basically done

Jonah - trash

Brown - guy I want

Onwenu - nice option if we can’t get brown 

[bitonti]

Onwenu is the only decent option and he's more of a gap man player not necessarily a fit for this hackett zone screen bullcrap offense 

[Beerfish]

Tyron Smith,

I will guarantee that Bakhtiari will be an unmitigated disaster and will play like 3  games after being given a 3 year contract by Douglas.

Let's add more Aaron Rodgers buddy disasters.

[THE BARON]

Jonah Williams or Brown.

I think it is more likely that Brown will want to move on.  Williams will probably resign where he is.

BUT... I have a feeling that the Jet GM, Aaron Rodgers will bring in old man Bakhtiari 

[Rich Thornburgh]

Are people actually taking Jonah seriously?  If you think Becton sucks-  Jonah makes Becton look like Willie Roaf

[bonkertons]

Just now, Beerfish said:

Tyron Smith,

I will guarantee that Bakhtiari will be an unmitigated disaster and will play like 3  games after being given a 3 year contract by Douglas.

Let's add more Aaron Rodgers buddy disasters.

Do you actually believe he'll get a 3 year deal or are we meme-ing?

[JustInFudge]

They will sign Arods boy and he won’t even get out of camp healthy. 

[Bleedin Green]

2 minutes ago, JustInFudge said:

They will sign Arods boy and he won’t even get out of camp healthy. 

At which point they'll bring back Duane Brown who will get to continue his August arrival tradition.

[bonkertons]

....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there we are.  Already devolved into a "Jets will Jets" thread.  Appreciate ya guys.

[dbatesman]

Does it matter? Whoever Douglas picks will spend 40% of his time getting his sh*t pushed in by opposing ends and the remaining 60% on IR with knee leprosy or whatever

[Maynard13]

What a depressing thread. Uggggh 

[Maynard13]

If they dont get Alt or Fashanau, they are in deep doo doo.  No idea who they pick if they are both gone. JD would be best to trade back and get a 2nd rounder. They could go with Fuaga at RT or Mims at LT and sign another FA to start and cross their fingers there.  Bakhtari is a huge risk. JD just cant solely rely on him. No way he gets through a 17 game season.  

[Bronx]

Most of them will probably resign with the team and I would avoid the broke dicks, 

[Sammybighead]

They need to draft an OT in round 1, regardless if Alt or Fashanu is off the board. Why are people dismissing the other prospects? The draft seems like it's deep at the position.

[Adoni Beast]

Trent Brown is durable and can and is willing to play either LT or RT

[maury77]

I believe Jonah has been playing better since switching to the right side. Worst case scenario, they can move him inside after Laken is gone.

[football guy]

I ultimately think we will sign David Bakhtiari for obvious reasons. I don't think it is a great idea, but glass half full view would be that its clear he can still play when available. He was a stud in the first game this year, but his knee flared up and that led to them shutting him down again.

In his own words, his problem has nothing to do with his ACL, major ligaments, strength, or flexibility in his knee. It's only recovery. When he did tear the ACL in 2020, they went in and did more work on other things that he had preexisting, one of which was removing some cartilage from his lateral femur. Some people don't need it, others do. Naturally after surgery he had atrophy, which is natural. They thought that was the reason for his soreness and swelling over the past few years, but with it persisting they did a deep dive and discovered he was having a different issue. For him, removing that little bit of cartilage in attempt to clean up the knee had a negative effect because the way his knee is structured, the lateral femur "rubs" a little more than others does. Because his is not as smooth, its like "sandpaper" in his knee, creating excess debris which leads to the swelling/fluid he's been dealing with for 3 years now. 

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2023/10/6/23907127/green-bay-packers-david-bakhtiari-injury-update-news-knee-issue-cartilage-contract-salary

If the surgery is a success (no indication that it can't be) and he doesn't have to deal with the constant swelling and fluid issues that have plagued him the past 3 years, there's a real chance he can get back to being the guy he's been. The Jets would need a great insurance policy, but its one of those situations where you may be able to get an elite player for cheap. 

 

 

Most likely outcome? They sign him, he looks great in training camp, wins the starting LT job, then blows out his other knee week 1 because we can't have nice things. 

 

[JetPotato]

1 hour ago, bonkertons said:

....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there we are.  Already devolved into a "Jets will Jets" thread.  Appreciate ya guys.

Are you surprised every day when the sun rises again? Pin this for this time next year when the obvious thing that will happen happens.

[Augustiniak]

I think they’re going to put avt at a tackle spot b/c they’re not going to sign anyone great in FA and they’re not keeping becton for obvious reasons. Assuming they miss out on the 2 top LT prospects, it’s easier to pencil avt in at tackle, draft another tackle and then find a guard.  That said, if the jets are picking 6th, they really do have a legit chance at a top 2 LT.  Maybe 7th.  8 or higher and they really shouldn’t expect it and need to use avt at tackle. 

[Scotty Wooty Doo Doo]

What happened to Collins ? Didnt they bring him in for a workout? Is he that bad? 

[Sonny Werblin]

2 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Bakhtiari - most likely who we are getting but even more injury prone than Becton 

Tyron Smith - basically done

Jonah - trash

Brown - guy I want

Onwenu - nice option if we can’t get brown 

This. The first 3 should not be seriously discussed. It would be like eating 3 chilidogs and getting back on the tilta-whirl 10 minutes after you just yacked up the first 3 chilidogs you ate while riding the tilta-whirl.

[Adoni Beast]

3 hours ago, bonkertons said:

David Bakhtiari, 32 - GB (will likely be cut after this most recent season ending injury)

Tyron Smith, 33 - DAL

Jonah Williams, 26 - CIN

Trent Brown, 30 - NE

Mike Onwenu, 26 - NE (has been better at RT, but he can at least play LT and has some upside there)

If you can get Bakhtiari on a huge incentive deal + one of Trent Brown or Onwenu + draft OT I think that’s a realistic and decent plan.

[Joe W. Namath]

LT will be address when we pick btwn 6-8 in the draft.

 

[Sonny Werblin]

33 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

LT will be address when we pick btwn 6-8 in the draft.

 

I think they need to go heavy into the O line and spend a pick on a red zone target WR and another RB - because we traded Carter and Cook is gone. Now, we have an impending disaster if there is an injury at RB. I think the draft should look like this.

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, dbatesman said:

Does it matter? Whoever Douglas picks will spend 40% of his time getting his sh*t pushed in by opposing ends and the remaining 60% on IR with knee leprosy or whatever

“Knee leprosy”.  Holy sh*t.  
 

[TuscanyTile2]

3 hours ago, JustInFudge said:

They will sign Arods boy and he won’t even get out of camp healthy. 

[Joe W. Namath]

1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said:

I think they need to go heavy into the O line and spend a pick on a red zone target WR and another RB - because we traded Carter and Cook is gone. Now, we have an impending disaster if there is an injury at RB. I think the draft should look like this.

Looks good.  They are still going to add 2 big time oline free agents and higgins or pottman.

[Sonny Werblin]

19 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Looks good.  They are still going to add 2 big time oline free agents and higgins or pottman.

They should try to add all that they can in free agency, but it it wholly apparent that O line depth is an issue. So, the more the merrier.

[Beerfish]

4 hours ago, bonkertons said:

Do you actually believe he'll get a 3 year deal or are we meme-ing?

Well it depends on what he asks for and how desperate Douglas is to 'get it done' he hand lazard a 4 year 44 million dollar deal so nothing is impossible with this crew.

[Hael]

Backhtieri is the only suitable candidate in that list as he’s really the only guy who plays the scheme.  Trent Brown and Onwenu would be mediocre in that system (Onwenu is really an elite gap guard more than a tackle but he’s played everything other than LT).  But will they really roll the dice on a 32 yr old guy coming off an injury?  

Smith has a ton of mileage (probably only has 2 ok but not elite years left).

 

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I never noticed until now, the full response to tearing his Achilles.

It looks like some doody escaped out one side of his Depends. 

[sirlancemehlot]

I want to trade for Bill Callahan. 

[peekskill68]

8 hours ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said:

What happened to Collins ? Didnt they bring him in for a workout? Is he that bad? 

Last I heard he was marlin fishing in the Keys with Rodger Saffold...

[Fantasy Island]

Who would want to come here and play for Saleh?  He kept the leagues worst QB starting.  Until they jettison Zach, we aren't attracting anybody except loafers like Cook and Tomlinson.