The offensive lines massive improvement with Simien under center

[Barry McCockinner]

52 minutes ago, sourceworx said:

He just never realized that the NFL isn't like BYU, where he had 30 year-old missionaries protecting him from 18 year-old walk-ons at Northwest Slapdick Community College.

I've always been more of a southeast slapdick cc guy

[Ken Schroy]

3 hours ago, Barton said:

But I was told Zach Wilson doesnt hold the ball too long. 

Oline is still bottom tier in the NFL but Matts point has truth - Zach Wilson made them look like the worst Jets Oline of all-time. 

Yes, they are probably only the second worst. LOL

[Mogglez]

2 hours ago, sourceworx said:

He's a professional QB who knows how to adjust protections and doesn't hold onto the ball forever.

He has the brain to play the position, he just doesn't have the physical tools.

This is, genuinely, it.

Trevor is pretty much done in the league, but he still knows what to do at a proper and respectable level.

[Rangers9]

Siemian threw for 70 yards today the entire offense was him handing off the ball to Breece Hall. If Zach won the game but threw for only 70 he'd be grilled by ZW haters. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

8 hours ago, Matt39 said:

What would you attribute it to?

He’s not Zach Wilson?

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

2 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

Siemian threw for 70 yards today the entire offense was him handing off the ball to Breece Hall. If Zach won the game but threw for only 70 he'd be grilled by ZW haters. 

If Siemian was the #2 overall pick and not a washed 7th round journeyman from Northwestern, (since he’s not from the state of Utah / a BYU alum), even @Dunnie and @Hal would be taking a virtual sh-t over him just like you, me, and everyone else on this board.

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

Siemian strikes fear in precisely zero defensive coaches, but the guy is a professional QB, and isn't Zach. Any QB not named Zach Wilson has immediately improved the offensive line's play. 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

7 hours ago, Alentador31 said:

Relax guys. If Bill is willing to cheat you don't think he made sure they lost today to get the best pick possible? Cmon. 

Do you really think that Bill wanted to lose to the Jets and give the Patriots a better pick that he would not be selecting?

[Anthony Jet]

10 hours ago, Matt39 said:

What would you attribute it to?

A dedication to film study and a general buy in finally from the guys up front????

[OilfieldJet]

9 hours ago, sourceworx said:

He just never realized that the NFL isn't like BYU, where he had 30 year-old missionaries protecting him from 18 year-old walk-ons at Northwest Slapdick Community College.

This is good stuff right here.

[JetsMetsRangers]

11 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And Flacco.  Their sack rate was about 5 % from 2021-22.  Zach’s in that span:  9.6 %.

Hard to believe that statues like Flacco....White and Simien get sacked less often than and elite athletic QB.........')

[Bruce Harper]

Giving Breece twice his normal touches didn’t hurt. 

[mrcoops]

3 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

Do you really think that Bill wanted to lose to the Jets and give the Patriots a better pick that he would not be selecting?

Exactly. Belicheat doesn't give a damn about where the Pats* pick, as he's going to be gone.

He really wanted to win and to stick it to the Jets one last time. Such a shame he didn't get what he wanted!

[Ron Rico]

Oh well, another season blown to hell over Flop Wilson.

[funaz]

Siemian threw for 70 yards today the entire offense was him handing off the ball to Breece Hall. If Zach won the game but threw for only 70 he'd be grilled by ZW haters. 

Zach would have thrown three picks, four fumbles and lost us the game.

Zach had 6 yards in a half against NE.

The reason we haven’t beaten the pats the last three years despite them being bad is because of Zach


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[SoFlaJets]

It's just like so many of us had been SCREAMING while we watched our chances for the playoffs slip away once again. Trevor Siemian should have been playing as soon as we got him instead of the worst QB drafted that high and given so many starts in history. It was so bad that I was hoping he'd get hurt or for the sake of the team, or at least FAKE it (just like he did when the Jets season was finally wrecked-BY HIM).  At least Trevor Siemian has the ability to sense when there's pressure coming up from his blind side. I swear it's almost like Woody Johnson hates the fans of this team and just because Zach had been nice to his son Brick, well then Woody demanded him being out there.

You know I know what it's going to sound like this off-season with Rodgers "supposedly" coming back, but we all know that with this ownership's stubbornness to do what is needed, like worry more about the training and medical staff the team employs and the horrible turf that continues to keep the Jets at the top of the list of teams who lose the most players games to injuries, not to mention this GM's inability to make any positive moves as it pertains to the OL and with Saleh's BS rhetoric and his way-too-soft and easy training camps. Next season is going to be even worse than the usual 7-10 record. Oh yea, wanna make a bet about Zach Wilson once again being the main back-up?  

[JetsYanks13]

The Jets played 2 of the worst teams in the NFL and one game was in a blizzard. Some fans grasp at straws to try and prove a point.


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[Claymation]

13 hours ago, Matt39 said:

What would you attribute it to?

Carter Warren

[Matt39]

4 minutes ago, JetsYanks13 said:

The Jets played 2 of the worst teams in the NFL and one game was in a blizzard. Some fans grasp at straws to try and prove a point.


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The also played one of the two best defenses in football. 

[Claymation]

1 hour ago, funaz said:

Zach would have thrown three picks, four fumbles and lost us the game.

Zach had 6 yards in a half against NE.

The reason we haven’t beaten the pats the last three years despite them being bad is because of Zach


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He had more yards that game than Trevor did yesterday.

[TuscanyTile2]

12 minutes ago, JetsYanks13 said:

The Jets played 2 of the worst teams in the NFL and one game was in a blizzard. Some fans grasp at straws to try and prove a point.


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  This 

7 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

Siemian threw for 70 yards today the entire offense was him handing off the ball to Breece Hall. If Zach won the game but threw for only 70 he'd be grilled by ZW haters. 

This

[TuscanyTile2]

36 minutes ago, SoFlaJets said:

It's just like so many of us had been SCREAMING while we watched our chances for the playoffs slip away once again. Trevor Siemian should have been playing as soon as we got him instead of the worst QB drafted that high and given so many starts in history. It was so bad that I was hoping he'd get hurt or for the sake of the team, or at least FAKE it (just like he did when the Jets season was finally wrecked-BY HIM).  At least Trevor Siemian has the ability to sense when there's pressure coming up from his blind side. I swear it's almost like Woody Johnson hates the fans of this team and just because Zach had been nice to his son Brick, well then Woody demanded him being out there.

You know I know what it's going to sound like this off-season with Rodgers "supposedly" coming back, but we all know that with this ownership's stubbornness to do what is needed, like worry more about the training and medical staff the team employs and the horrible turf that continues to keep the Jets at the top of the list of teams who lose the most players games to injuries, not to mention this GM's inability to make any positive moves as it pertains to the OL and with Saleh's BS rhetoric and his way-too-soft and easy training camps. Next season is going to be even worse than the usual 7-10 record. Oh yea, wanna make a bet about Zach Wilson once again being the main back-up?  

Trevor Siemian is a garbage QB.

[T0mShane]

[Dunnie]

Hard to believe that statues like Flacco....White and Simien get sacked less often than and elite athletic QB.........')

Justin Fields ?

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[FootballLove]

14 hours ago, Matt39 said:

What would you attribute it to?

Last year when the Bengals had a PO game in Buffalo in the snow, Burrow said all QBs love playing in snow, even if they've never played in snow before.

Snow eliminates the pass rush.

[jetspenguin]

14 hours ago, Alentador31 said:

Relax guys. If Bill is willing to cheat you don't think he made sure they lost today to get the best pick possible? Cmon. 

for a team that he will not be there to coach? as in do a favor for a team that is firing him? 

 

You dont really believe that BB is that kind hearted and charitable do you?

[Alka]

16 hours ago, rangerous said:

You think the slush and snow had something to do with it?  Plus it’s not like siemien was dropping back to pass much.  Breece had a great game because the defenders couldn’t pursue as well as they could on a dry surface.

And yet Quinnen Williams had 2 sacks yesterday.  

[jmat321]

2 hours ago, FootballLove said:

Last year when the Bengals had a PO game in Buffalo in the snow, Burrow said all QBs love playing in snow, even if they've never played in snow before.

Snow eliminates the pass rush.

the jets pass rush looked pretty good yesterday

[jetsman]

16 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

A qb who is decisive and understands when to throw the ball away.  

this

[JetsMetsRangers]

2 hours ago, Dunnie said:

Justin Fields ?

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Been hearing about Zach's athleticism since he was drafted, hence the calls for rolling him out and using it to escape the pocket........Somehow it did not help him in the pocket where many times he ran into a sack........

[Dunnie]

for a team that he will not be there to coach? as in do a favor for a team that is firing him? 
 
You dont really believe that BB is that kind hearted and charitable do you?

I think you're right ... But there is a little voice inside that terrifies me saying ... He hasn't been fired yet.

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[sciond]

yeah that OL was just stellar......

[jetsman]

11 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

Siemian threw for 70 yards today the entire offense was him handing off the ball to Breece Hall. If Zach won the game but threw for only 70 he'd be grilled by ZW haters. 

take the weather into account the wind was tough better to run the ball in that weather

[rex-n-effect]

The OL settled into a consistent group rather than the game of musical chairs as guys went down with injuries.

Siemian handed the ball off seemingly more than the other two and it wasn't going into Cook's 3 YPC hands. 

Siemian is better at looking around and throwing the ball to the checkdown early, so there's less opportunity to sack him. ZW held the ball too long at times looking for a play. I'm not sure I agree throwing a lot of checkdowns counts as commendable QB play but that's what Saleh seems to want with him comments about the QB making the plays that are available. Instead of pressing the QB, defenses could force Siemian to make a bad intermediate throw or take the two yard checkdown. 

What will the OL look like with a QB who also wants to make more than a five yard play but can accurately throw the longer passes? I'm not sure I'm excited about this OL protecting Rodgers next year better than they did the first four plays of this season.

[Scott Dierking]

Snow