Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, GangGreened said: JD wanting Bakhtiari is not a surprise at all. He’s done a terrible job with the offensive line, so naturally this is a player he wants. Also old and injured which JD covets like a parched man covets water 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: I think Thorn was pretty high on Wirfs going into the draft. So JD did not go with the player this guy liked (Wirfs, eventual All-Pro and champion)... And JD will go with the player this guy doesn't like (Fuaga)... Should end really well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 58 minutes ago, Claymation said: First time he is not working in the NFL since the Nixon Administration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 No first round OL especially not one time analysts think is a 2nd round guard. First round is for playmaker now. Drafting OL was OK 10 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, jetswinbaby! said: So JD did not go with the player this guy liked (Wirfs, eventual All-Pro and champion)... And JD will go with the player this guy doesn't like (Fuaga)... Should end really well... Thorn had Becton ranked slightly higher than Wirfs but he said it was really close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, jetswinbaby! said: So JD did not go with the player this guy liked (Wirfs, eventual All-Pro and champion)... And JD will go with the player this guy doesn't like (Fuaga)... Should end really well... Thorn ended up ranking Becton over Wirfs because Becton had left tackle upside, iirc. He did love Wirfs, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 40 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said: All true, but Beachum started a rock solid 48 games after he left the Jets, and was always a fantastic locker room guy. The Jets always seem to let the bird in the hand fly away. I could say the same about Tomlinson. Rock solid in terms of starting. Small problem is he sucks. Beachum was about an average pass blocker - not particularly good, not particularly bad - and a decidedly below average run blocker. Or that's how I remember him, anyway. So, yeah he was a legitimate starter but not someone we should've been shy about upgrading. They went with Fant and a rookie who ended up being Becton. Their tackles were Beachum & Shell, with Lewis-Harrison-Winters in between them, and Darnold-Falk-Siemian took 52 sacks that year. I can understand them wanting to upgrade the line across the board to see if that was part or much of the problem with Darnold. There's also the possibility Douglas absolutely did approach Beachum about an extension, but at a lot less than he was making ($8MM/year); then Beachum balked at it & chose free agency instead, only to find out no one else was interested in paying him either -- with his tail between his legs, he grudgingly signed with Arizona in July for the veteran minimum ($1.2MM) for 1 year, and then in March re-signed with them for 2 more years at just $2MM per. To compare, Fant was signed to replace him in 2020 at $9MM/year for 3 years with the Jets, and then just $3MM this past year for Houston; not totally unlike Becton in that the next team got him for a small fraction of what the Jets paid for 3 straight years. JFC this team's FO is such a clusterf***. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Cimini looking for clicks. That's all this is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 It’s January. If the GM has already leaked who he wants to pick mid-draft, then fire him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Maybe Douglas is looking at fuaga but that doesn’t mean he’s looking to use the ten pick on him. There’s still three months to go until the draft so whatever is being reported now may not be so later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, kevinc855 said: I'm sure the Becton over Wirfs GM will nail this pick.......nothing to sweat guys I can see this be like the 2020 draft. Teams like the Jets who did not develop their OL correctly will reach for T. There will be a Becton, and there will be a Wirfs. Fuaga seems like a poor man's Wirfs. Andrew Thomas was still picked very high (call him Alt), and Jedrick Wills was picked before Becton. He is ok. But guys like Cee Dee Lamb and Justin Jefferson went after the Tackles. If I am GM I am trying to draft guys like that and figuring out other ways to find OL. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: Also old and injured which JD covets like a parched man covets water The luring Ryan Kalil out of retirement plan during his first year was a huge tell 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco21 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Still of the belief we are making a big mistake taking a lineman in the first round if offensive firepower at the top of the class is still on the board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I get it that having a good running game makes the pass game easier, but every player acquired this off season must be the best pass protector available . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets and Redskins Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 hours ago, Adoni Beast said: I think this lineup could be a good OL, but if we signing Bahktari then we need to be signing another LT that could be expected to start in the likely event Bahktari goes down with another injury. Given the amount of cautious+incentive $ that Bahktari would get I don't anticipate that would be cost prohibitive and we would be able to sign 2 LTs in the bargain department. I do wonder if we recoup a 2nd round pick if we'd be inclined to draft a LT in the 2nd or 3rd round instead of signing an additional LT. I agree, We need 2 vet OT and a rookie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Taliese fuaga looked good in the pit today, shutting down latu https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1752369478896103808 Tyler guyton Oklahoma also legit Either one could be worth that ten pick, pending workouts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco21 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Larz said: I get it that having a good running game makes the pass game easier, but every player acquired this off season must be the best pass protector available . I could make the argument to the contrary. While we can all agree we need linemen, I can make just as good of an argument that we need playmakers, unless of course you'd like to rely on Cobb and Lazard. Missing out on a guy like Bowers, Harrison Jr., Nabers, Odunze, etc. would be a massive failure. I don't give a sh*t, frankly, what linemen are there. If any of the above are available, you take one. Offensive linemen are everywhere in the later rounds. Guys like Tippman and Vera Tucker can be found later. Wasting a high 1st round pick on a lineman is exactly that, a waste. That's my opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Has this guy been injured in the past or would he be another that gets Jets Hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 44 minutes ago, Falco21 said: I could make the argument to the contrary. While we can all agree we need linemen, I can make just as good of an argument that we need playmakers, unless of course you'd like to rely on Cobb and Lazard. Missing out on a guy like Bowers, Harrison Jr., Nabers, Odunze, etc. would be a massive failure. I don't give a sh*t, frankly, what linemen are there. If any of the above are available, you take one. Offensive linemen are everywhere in the later rounds. Guys like Tippman and Vera Tucker can be found later. Wasting a high 1st round pick on a lineman is exactly that, a waste. That's my opinion. Ernie Acorsi’s hierarchy of football needs: get the QB protect the QB rush the QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I don’t want that fat **** picking anyone he likes. We have a better chance if he closes his eyes and randomly picks a name out of a hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Ghost said: I don’t want that fat **** picking anyone he likes. We have a better chance if he closes his eyes and randomly picks a name out of a hat. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Falco21 said: I could make the argument to the contrary. While we can all agree we need linemen, I can make just as good of an argument that we need playmakers, unless of course you'd like to rely on Cobb and Lazard. Missing out on a guy like Bowers, Harrison Jr., Nabers, Odunze, etc. would be a massive failure. I don't give a sh*t, frankly, what linemen are there. If any of the above are available, you take one. Offensive linemen are everywhere in the later rounds. Guys like Tippman and Vera Tucker can be found later. Wasting a high 1st round pick on a lineman is exactly that, a waste. That's my opinion. This season is make or break for the Jets. It is likely the last hoorah for AR8. They need at least 3 new starters on the OL, and free agency is no bargain. The Jets have no second round draft pick. Watch the Packers use that pick to take a good OL. So the Jets could be stuck having to take a starting calibre T at 10. If I am JD, I am trimming defensive contracts, signing a bunch of FA OL (throw it against the wall) and drafting the playmaker at 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, The Crusher said: Worse part of this pick is Joe is considering picking him. Red flag! You just jealous because he instantly becomes The Bulldozer and you become Crusher Jr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: 3 LOCK Down HOF players and an All Pro in the wings. Pretty shabby you ask me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: Bring in a veteran free agent (Bahktari?) .. then we’d be looking at a line of Bahktari AVT Tippman Fuaga swing: Carter Warren maybe bring back Tomlinson if he takes pay cut? Bakhtiari‘s missed like 42 games the last 4 years. Did he play last year? And you want him over anyone JD is rumored to be looking at in the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2024-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-1-0 Jeremiah’s rankings are beautiful for the Jets. Take the best tackle available / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 As others have pointed out, it's way too early for this to come with a whole lot of meaning, as a ton can still change. Among those being that while OL will still of course be a top priority, you have to hope JD isn't going to head into the draft with any position left completely unoccupied. That's how you end up in some ridiculous situation like drafting a third-string DE because the rest of the league knew who you originally planned to take. That would be crazy, right? Regardless, a potential grasp at optimism is that it turns out the one time a JD draft has been at all fruitful was when Jets coaches were last at the Senior Bowl figuring out who the team should draft, avoiding the disaster of the front office having to decide that for themselves. Here's hoping they can manage that once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 hours ago, Maynard13 said: You just jealous because he instantly becomes The Bulldozer and you become Crusher Jr. Yeah, uhh, nah, I’m not @kevinc855, I’d put Joe on his ass just on my way for more crab legs off the buffet. Bring it on baby!!! Haha 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 a word on Fuaga he measured 33 3/4 arms which is just barely enough for tackle anything below 33 is considered bad for tackle - although admittedly Joe Thomas also had 33 3/4 and Terron Armstead is around the same AVT measured 32 and 1/4 or something Tyler Guyton measured 6'7" 328 with 34 inch arms a little better good enough but neither of these guys will be mistaken for DBrick and that could make some scouts look at them as guard types (Brandon Thorn) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/1752403505778663626 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 OL Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State Fuaga got his first reps of the week at right guard during team drills and struggled with his pass sets and hands, losing twice clean across his face. One was against a 2i alignment (defensive tackle on inside shoulder) going outside, and the other came against a 3-tech (defensive tackle on outside shoulder) going inside. He was also beat once at right tackle around the corner. Fuaga's play strength was evident once locked onto his target this week, but his ability to protect the corner and mirror wasn't great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 1/31/2024 at 6:53 AM, The Crusher said: Yeah, uhh, nah, I’m not @kevinc855, I’d put Joe on his ass just on my way for more crab legs off the buffet. Bring it on baby!!! Haha Ya gotta work on those skinny legs LOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Can he play LT? Oregon State image Tallies Fuaga, OT, Oregon State Height: 6-6. Weight: 334. Projected 40 Time: 5.40. Projected Round (2024): 2-3. 1/6/24: Fuaga has gotten some media hype as a potential first-round pick for the 2024 NFL Draft. He was a starter and solid player for the Beavers over the last couple of seasons. In speaking to some NFL team sources, they weren’t as high on Fuaga as the media, but perhaps there are other team evaluators who like him more. Fuaga has a body type that could allow him to kick inside to guard as well. https://walterfootball.com/draft2024OT.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 1/30/2024 at 9:05 PM, Larz said: Ernie Acorsi’s hierarchy of football needs: get the QB protect the QB rush the QB Did he actually coin that philosophy? I assumed this was general common sense like - don’t smoke - don’t be an a alcoholic - don’t be obese 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 22 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: OL Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State Fuaga got his first reps of the week at right guard during team drills and struggled with his pass sets and hands, losing twice clean across his face. One was against a 2i alignment (defensive tackle on inside shoulder) going outside, and the other came against a 3-tech (defensive tackle on outside shoulder) going inside. He was also beat once at right tackle around the corner. Fuaga's play strength was evident once locked onto his target this week, but his ability to protect the corner and mirror wasn't great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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