Bobby816 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 So I’m more team going Bowers or Odunze if there (assuming Alt, MHJ and Nabers are gone), but certainly not against OL at 10. The reason for this thread is to address why I lean more to weapon. And if not that more to Fashanu even though I like grade Fuaga higher. The reason most want an OT is bc Smith gets injured pretty much every year now. So he can’t be relied on for 17 games. Which isn’t false. What I feel is getting a tad lost in this, is that at the top of the draft… Alt and Fashanu are the only LTs. Fuaga is a RT. If I’ve read correctly also. He never even played LT in college. So not exactly like he would be the backup to Smith. Warren would likely be that (assuming we don’t bring in a vet that likely would start over any OT we’d draft at 10). Warren was a LT in college. He played RT for us bc we were desperate last year. Furthermore… Moses generally stays healthy. So while he is getting up in age. Hes durable. I mean he played through a torn pec I think it was last year. And will be 100% this season. So a really good backup to him isn’t as much of a need as it is for Smith. So on talent alone I think I like Fuaga more than Fashanu. But Fashanu is more valuable to us. So I’d have question if we drafted Fuaga at 10. Especially if Bowers, Odunze and Fashanu are available. If we bring in a vet LT. Than at that stage I know we’d have no long term OT. But I’d rather still see us go weapon there. Someone who can immediately help us. We have likely a 2 year window. So get guys that can help now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 I like fuaga more I like any of the top 3 WRs over Bowers, but I certainly understand the appeal. the only thing that would really piss me off is going defense 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 The answer to this is really going to come down to how much risk is Douglas willing to take. If we take a WR or Bowers then he is willing to put it all on the line for the highest reward with a high amount of risk involved. Fashanu or Fuaga being drafted means he is choosing the safer route with a lower ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Troluiese Faushtaganu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Rated very closely. I’d take Fuaga. We don’t know which OL is going to get hurt, but it will happen. Fuaga can play G & T. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 8 minutes ago, neckdemon said: Fashanu or Fuaga being drafted means he is choosing the safer route with a lower ceiling. It could also mean he likes the mid round WRs more than the mid round OL. The team probably gets better collectively by getting an (A-) OT and a (B+ )WR, than by getting an (A+) WR and a (C+) OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I get confused by the names. Which one of these two is the ground-dwelling dragon from Dig-Dug? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 This is a really good question actually. You can probably add Fautanu to that list as well. Super tough decision. At first I was 100% behind Fashanu him being the prototypical LT, now I am not so sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Which one of these two is the ground-dwelling dragon from Dig-Dug? What an excellent game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BCJet Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: I get confused by the names. Which one of these two is the ground-dwelling dragon from Dig-Dug? The names can be a bit confusing - agreed. Oly Fashanu - Penn State 6'6 321: He has been a LT throughout college and is only 21. Would absolutely benefit from being brought along slowly behind Smith and would absolutely be ready to be the LT on opening day 2025. Taliese Fuaga - Oregon State 6'6 334. Mauling run blocker with a fierce attitude who has been a RT his whole career. Profootballnetwork scouting report says he is enough of an athlete to move to LT but has never played there. Troy Fautanu - Washington 6'4 317 Has played LT for 2 full seasons but some people project him to guard. What is odd about that (and possibly just a lazy opinion) is that he measured 34 1/2 inch arms which are absolutely long enough for a tackle (for comparison AVT was 32 1/8th). Also plays with an attitude but not as good of a run blocker as Fuaga. When you look at these 3 guys and then add in Tyler Guyton, Amarius Mims, JC Latham and Jordan Morgan you can see why most of us want to trade down. Just from a numbers standoint, 3 or 4 of these guys should be available after pick 15 and 2 of them will likely be around after pick 20. If we can a second round pick to move back to 18-20 we could come out of the draft with an OT to develop in 2024 and fill in if Smith gets hurt, AND a WR to give us some depth (personally Roman Wilson is the guy i like the most in the 2nd). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFlyer Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Faugetabout em draft fautuna 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Taliese Fuaga’s short arms rule him out as a LT, in my opinion. Douglas wants length at LT, and that’s the one flaw to Fuaga. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bitonti Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 13 minutes ago, BCJet said: The names can be a bit confusing - agreed. Oly Fashanu - Penn State 6'6 321: He has been a LT throughout college and is only 21. Would absolutely benefit from being brought along slowly behind Smith and would absolutely be ready to be the LT on opening day 2025. Taliese Fuaga - Oregon State 6'6 334. Mauling run blocker with a fierce attitude who has been a RT his whole career. Profootballnetwork scouting report says he is enough of an athlete to move to LT but has never played there. Troy Fautanu - Washington 6'4 317 Has played LT for 2 full seasons but some people project him to guard. What is odd about that (and possibly just a lazy opinion) is that he measured 34 1/2 inch arms which are absolutely long enough for a tackle (for comparison AVT was 32 1/8th). Also plays with an attitude but not as good of a run blocker as Fuaga. When you look at these 3 guys and then add in Tyler Guyton, Amarius Mims, JC Latham and Jordan Morgan you can see why most of us want to trade down. I understand why people want to trade down but there's a huge difference between the Fs and a player like Tyler guyton. Mims is a great athlete but at least a 2 year project that's how raw he is. Latham is Becton part 2 I'd rather the Jets stay where they are and take a potential pro bowler than a bust at the end of the round And fwiw I like fuaga, olu and Troy in that order but all would be great picks I'm also suspicious of alt... Not many tackles are over 81 inches. Alejandro Villanueva is the only one who panned out 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Fautanu but I wouldn’t hate Fuaga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 46 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: Taliese Fuaga’s short arms rule him out as a LT, in my opinion. Douglas wants length at LT, and that’s the one flaw to Fuaga. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I believe Fashanu was the one who had the shorter arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Fashanu please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, bitonti said: I'm also suspicious of alt... Not many tackles are over 81 inches. Alejandro Villanueva is the only one who panned out Thankfully he’s only 80” tall! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 F- this!... F- that!... F-U!... What the F-?... I'm more confused now than before!... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I understand why people want to trade down but there's a huge difference between the Fs and a player like Tyler guyton. Mims is a great athlete but at least a 2 year project that's how raw he is. Latham is Becton part 2 I'd rather the Jets stay where they are and take a potential pro bowler than a bust at the end of the round And fwiw I like fuaga, olu and Troy in that order but all would be great picks I'm also suspicious of alt... Not many tackles are over 81 inches. Alejandro Villanueva is the only one who panned out What about Patrick Paul?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFlyer Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 25 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: What about Patrick Paul? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app he's changing his name to Faulanu and sneaking into the first round 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I really don't want an OL in the 1st, but if it's something we're dead set on doing, the only one I'd be happy with is Fautanu. Can give you depth at LG and LT out of the gate, and can replace Smith next year at LT full time. Olu is pretty much a LT only, and Fuaga doesn't help us much since the main risk is Smith, not Moses. I don't buy Fuaga as a LT. So yes, give me Bowers, but if it's gotta be OL I'd prefer Fautanu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 30 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: What about Patrick Paul? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I like him more than most I'd take Paul over guyton and I expect that's all late 1 early 2 activity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, bonkertons said: I really don't want an OL in the 1st, but if it's something we're dead set on doing, the only one I'd be happy with is Fautanu. Can give you depth at LG and LT out of the gate, and can replace Smith next year at LT full time. Olu is pretty much a LT only, and Fuaga doesn't help us much since the main risk is Smith, not Moses. I don't buy Fuaga as a LT. So yes, give me Bowers, but if it's gotta be OL I'd prefer Fautanu. I just dont think you can use a high pick on a TE, the skillset is so hard to see in college as none of it translates aside from blocking. Kelce is amazing because he happens to have such a great feel as a WR that its really unique and somehow he got paired with a QB who can extend plays and has the ability to improvise. Then you look at Gronk who was a great blocker and had the size to exploit any LB in the league and most strong safeties. Bowers is 6'3 245 - how is that someone who will demand that the defense adapt to what he is able to do? If he is your starting TE in a 3 WR set, is there any threat of a strong run game? No - you will play nickel as your base. The reason Kittle is so good is that he is a devastating blocker (which is what Ruckert is) which forces the defense to play a true 3 LB set and allows for mismatches off that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Would make a good beach boys song... Fashanu, Fuaga, ooh I wanna take ya 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 None of the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Olu - even tho he has baby hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Fuaga is the AVT comp, correct? I’d be down for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 6 hours ago, Greenseed4 said: It could also mean he likes the mid round WRs more than the mid round OL. The team probably gets better collectively by getting an (A-) OT and a (B+ )WR, than by getting an (A+) WR and a (C+) OL "That" is a given in this draft ... much better WR prospects overall than OL in the latter rounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 4 hours ago, bitonti said: I like him more than most I'd take Paul over guyton and I expect that's all late 1 early 2 activity Kiran Amegadjie of Yale? What do you think? 36" arms! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I like him more than most I'd take Paul over guyton and I expect that's all late 1 early 2 activity I think Joe Douglas probably does too. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 7 hours ago, Bobby816 said: So I’m more team going Bowers or Odunze if there (assuming Alt, MHJ and Nabers are gone), but certainly not against OL at 10. The reason for this thread is to address why I lean more to weapon. And if not that more to Fashanu even though I like grade Fuaga higher. The reason most want an OT is bc Smith gets injured pretty much every year now. So he can’t be relied on for 17 games. Which isn’t false. What I feel is getting a tad lost in this, is that at the top of the draft… Alt and Fashanu are the only LTs. Fuaga is a RT. If I’ve read correctly also. He never even played LT in college. So not exactly like he would be the backup to Smith. Warren would likely be that (assuming we don’t bring in a vet that likely would start over any OT we’d draft at 10). Warren was a LT in college. He played RT for us bc we were desperate last year. Furthermore… Moses generally stays healthy. So while he is getting up in age. Hes durable. I mean he played through a torn pec I think it was last year. And will be 100% this season. So a really good backup to him isn’t as much of a need as it is for Smith. So on talent alone I think I like Fuaga more than Fashanu. But Fashanu is more valuable to us. So I’d have question if we drafted Fuaga at 10. Especially if Bowers, Odunze and Fashanu are available. If we bring in a vet LT. Than at that stage I know we’d have no long term OT. But I’d rather still see us go weapon there. Someone who can immediately help us. We have likely a 2 year window. So get guys that can help now. I've thought a lot about his myself - OT or WR or TE (Bowers). I strongly leaned towards OT since Moses and Smith are older and have an injury history. BUT, getting another elite weapon for Aaron is really tempting. A WR corp of Mike Williams, GW and Odunze or Bowers to go along with Breece is really dangereous. Regardless, JD WILL draft a WR and a OT with his 1st and 3rd rounder. Which one comes first is another matter. If you go OT with the 1st rounder, the WR in round 3 is not as elite. But, if go Odunze at 10, the options at OT in round 3 arent bad at all. Kiran Amegadjie of Yale is slated to go in round 3 around 75 to 95. We pick at 72. Another option is going OT in round 1 and trading back into round 2 and get a guy Xavier Worthy who might slip into round 2. Or we could trade back in round 1 and grab an extra 2nd. Grab a T Amarius Mims, who can play RT or LT. And with the 2nd rounder take the best avaialble WR there. JD needs to get this right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I like fuaga more I like any of the top 3 WRs over Bowers, but I certainly understand the appeal. the only thing that would really piss me off is going defense Pretty much exactly how I feel... How do you feel about trading up for Alt if he drops to 7?Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Fuaga is the AVT comp, correct? I’d be down for that I believe you are thinking about Troy Fautanu ... Guy is super versatile.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 4 hours ago, Larz said: Fuaga is the AVT comp, correct? I’d be down for that I thought that was Fautanu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Fautanu Eff that TF baby ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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