Popular Post AFJF Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 Would you do it? Picking between 10-15 got kind of boring so for the hell of it I accepted a trade offer from Washington in a mock today that had me give up pick 10 in exchange for picks 36, 40 and 78. With those 3 picks I came away with: Ladd McConkey Patrick Paul McKinnley Jackson I think I'd prefer that over any one player I could get at 10. How far down would you drop from 10 if it got you multiple picks in the top 75-100? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 depends on who's available at 10. I wouldn't rule it out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 No. You want blue chip talent. Top 4 wrs or Bowers 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 I would need their next years first too. I’m not dropping from 10 to completely out with no future 1st. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Would be a ballsy move for sure i would have to think for jd to do this he has assurances from woody that he is safe regardless of how this year goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I would not be interested in going beyond 16 I bet the Bills regret trading back with the chiefs lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, Larz said: I would not be interested in going beyond 16 I bet the Bills regret trading back with the chiefs lol I think they wish they had Andy Reid... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 I remember Parcells trying this Disaster 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 I dont understand McConkey love from people scared of Bowers 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I'd go as far as 20-25 maybe, there will still be possible really good ot prospects and wrs prospects there. Go any lower than that and you are firmly in 3rd tier ots and wrs. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post doitny Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 what a horrible idea. thats the kind of move you make when you just went 1-16 and just need bodies. not looking for that one player who could make a real difference. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 No way. Too far a drop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Didn’t someone determine that there are only 18 first round grades in this class? Whoever that was, I’m choosing to believe them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 When I posed the question of trading back and who was available, I was kinda looking at trade options. I looked at Carolina, 33, 39, & 65. That equates to a little more than 1300 points which is the equivalent of pick 10. I questioned if Carolina would even be interested due to the holes they need to fill. Anyway, Take pick 39 and our 111 and move back up into top 30, or even add in 72 and get into top 20. We would still have 33, 65 if top 20 and 33,65, 72 into top 30. Like I said, would Carolina do it for 1 player? That being said, I'd be on board depending on other offers and whose available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, AFJF said: Would you do it? Picking between 10-15 got kind of boring so for the hell of it I accepted a trade offer from Washington in a mock today that had me give up pick 10 in exchange for picks 36, 40 and 78. With those 3 picks I came away with: Ladd McConkey Patrick Paul McKinnley Jackson I think I'd prefer that over any one player I could get at 10. How far down would you drop from 10 if it got you multiple picks in the top 75-100? Every time i trade down to the end of rd 1 i always feel i do well and i mock draft 100s of time per month 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, AFJF said: Would you do it? Picking between 10-15 got kind of boring so for the hell of it I accepted a trade offer from Washington in a mock today that had me give up pick 10 in exchange for picks 36, 40 and 78. With those 3 picks I came away with: Ladd McConkey Patrick Paul McKinnley Jackson I think I'd prefer that over any one player I could get at 10. How far down would you drop from 10 if it got you multiple picks in the top 75-100? Patrick Paul all the way. Easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: Every time i trade down to the end of rd 1 i always feel i do well and i mock draft 100s of time per month When you have a class like this that is universally viewed as insanely deep at WR and OT, you can get a starter at each position in the top 50. McConkey and Paul would be a great pair of picks IMO. Then you add to that a starting caliber safety or stud DT to put next to Quinnen and it'd be worth considering for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Greenseed4 said: Didn’t someone determine that there are only 18 first round grades in this class? Whoever that was, I’m choosing to believe them. I don't worry about first round grades as much as I worry about quality starters. If you believe you can get 3 quality starters vs 1 guy with a first round grade, I'm taking the 3 starters. Especially when we're talking about this class with the number of WR's and OT's there are to be had. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: I'd go as far as 20-25 maybe, there will still be possible really good ot prospects and wrs prospects there. Go any lower than that and you are firmly in 3rd tier ots and wrs. Respectfully disagree. There are 15-20 very good WR options in this class. In that range you can still get a good day 1 starter. Xavier Leggette, Ricky Pearsall, Ladd McConkey, Tez Walker types will still be there. As a compliment to Wilson there'd be nothing wrong with any of those guys IMO. Grabbing an OT in that range is also a possibility given the number of good ones in this class. I'd take Patrick Paul there in a heartbeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 15 minutes ago, AFJF said: Respectfully disagree. There are 15-20 very good WR options in this class. In that range you can still get a good day 1 starter. Xavier Leggette, Ricky Pearsall, Ladd McConkey, Tez Walker types will still be there. As a compliment to Wilson there'd be nothing wrong with any of those guys IMO. Grabbing an OT in that range is also a possibility given the number of good ones in this class. I'd take Patrick Paul there in a heartbeat. WR is deep, there are still tiers and the guys you listed are in tier three. If you are happy the third tier wrs and ots and feel numbers are more important than higher end talent fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: WR is deep, there are still tiers and the guys you listed are in tier three. If you are happy the third tier wrs and ots and feel numbers are more important than higher end talent fine. Xavier Legette is tier 1 but we'll talk about this in 2027. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Depends who is available. If odunze is there at 10 there’s no shot in hell I’d make that trade. if he’s off the board I’d strongly consider it. But if you are trading out of the first I want atleast a first in return next year. plus a 2 and a 3 this year minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: I dont understand McConkey love from people scared of Bowers I really like Mcconkey rd 2 but I don't understand that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 38 minutes ago, Beerfish said: WR is deep, there are still tiers and the guys you listed are in tier three. If you are happy the third tier wrs and ots and feel numbers are more important than higher end talent fine. Who determines the tiers? Whose tiers are we going by? I'd place Leggette and McConkey firmly at the top tier two with the potential to produce like tier 1 when all is said and done. How many guys are better than them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Oh yeah because you can just rely on all 3 guys ending up quality starters. C’mon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 9 hours ago, AFJF said: When you have a class like this that is universally viewed as insanely deep at WR and OT, you can get a starter at each position in the top 50. McConkey and Paul would be a great pair of picks IMO. Then you add to that a starting caliber safety or stud DT to put next to Quinnen and it'd be worth considering for sure. In the miserable history of the franchise neither a 2nd rd WR nor a 1st rd TE has ever worked out for the Jets. I don’t understand why I see so many advocates for tempting fate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 13 hours ago, AFJF said: Would you do it? Picking between 10-15 got kind of boring so for the hell of it I accepted a trade offer from Washington in a mock today that had me give up pick 10 in exchange for picks 36, 40 and 78. With those 3 picks I came away with: Ladd McConkey Patrick Paul McKinnley Jackson I think I'd prefer that over any one player I could get at 10. How far down would you drop from 10 if it got you multiple picks in the top 75-100? We gave up 3 second rd picks to move from 6 to 3. Im not opposed to moving down but not that far for that little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Only problem with trading down (which I agree with) is the guys we get after trading down will forever be compared to the entire draft. Say some other team drafts a superstar in the 4th round. Our fans for the rest of time will be like "We coulda had player X with the 10th overall pick, but noooo, we traded down". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 13 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: I dont understand McConkey love from people scared of Bowers Big difference between drafting Bowers at 10 and McConkey at the end of the 1st round after picking up additional picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I’m ok with trading up for a WR or trading way down and drafting a WR while also picking up OL help. Both scenarios look good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFlyer Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 we want a mid 1st and a mid second.. get it done. 1 WR, 1 OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, LionelRichie said: In the miserable history of the franchise neither a 2nd rd WR nor a 1st rd TE has ever worked out for the Jets. I don’t understand why I see so many advocates for tempting fate. You can't build your draft board based on something that happened back in the 80's. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFlyer Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 8 minutes ago, AFJF said: You can't build your draft board based on something that happened back in the 80's. so you admit that Ruckert was a horrible whiff in the 2nd round? agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 This 1998 article in The New York Times, published before a Jets-Rams game, breaks down the deal in further detail. The Jets decided to not draft Pace and instead get a bounty of players that ended up being: LB James Farrior, WR Dedric Ward, RB Leon Johnson, DT Jason Ferguson, DE Terry Day, QB Chuck Clements, and TE Lawrence Hart. Farrior lasted what, 4 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 14 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: I dont understand McConkey love from people scared of Bowers I mocked both of them to the Jets recently. Genius!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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