afosomf Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Not going to happen. We'll get one, the other or nothing at all. Not a chance in Hell we'd go after both. hell the gints are going after him to replace plexiglass well worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I'm never said YES with so much certainty in my life!!!!!!! If that trade happens we go to the AFC championship! If that trade happens, I will bump around late december, than call me idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 I'm never said YES with so much certainty in my life!!!!!!! If that trade happens we go to the AFC championship! If that trade happens, I will bump around late december, than call me idiot. Your support bodes ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I don't think that will be enough It will be picks and a player The Broncos would do that deal in a cocaine heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I'm never said YES with so much certainty in my life!!!!!!! If that trade happens we go to the AFC championship! If that trade happens, I will bump around late december, than call me idiot. heck why wait, get one in now. BUT for real JC for 3 picks. That's the move of our franchise! Our fourths have outplayed our 1st's except Revis and Mangold was a second in the first round, so he would stay. what other firsts in the last ten years would we lose, well let's see. every first and every other third for JC: 99- 1st to NE, 3rd-Loverne, David OT, remember him,great memories.lol 2000- 1st-Shaun Ellis(4 firsts that year) Ellis for JC, HELLLLLLL YES! 2001-1st- Santana Moss for JC, helll yeah 3rd- Kareem Mckenzie LOL 2002- 1st-Bryan Thomas hmmmm,close, no it isn't give me JC f%$K BT 2003-1st and 3rd- D-ROB hahahaha and 3rd- BJ Askew, nope,still want Kutler 2004- 1st-Vilma- I loved him, but Fatgini and the old 3-4, even so, franchise QB beats good LBer always. 2005-1st and 3rd- 1st went to OAK, but with 2 and 3 we got Nugent and Justin Miller. FUNNY I STILL WANT JC< FOR ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!! 2006- 1st-D'Brickashaw- don't even try to make this argument,please. I wish this was 3rd year it was Schegal. 2007- 1st and 3rd- Darrelle Revis-FINALLY an argument!!! but franchise QB beats shut down corner, hmmmm, I love revis, that one made me wince, I admit. so it took 7 years to even think about it. there was no 3rd that year but 2 was Harris(good draft) 2008- 1st- VERNON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so , in ten years, 10 firsts and 5 thirds, only one made it close!!!!!!!!! YES,YUES,YES,YES,do it now!!!!!!!!Lets get that trophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 happy with 8-8 the rest of your life huh Yeah, because Jay has lead how many teams to 9 wins in a season? BZ A) 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 In 2010, the earliest. It'll be fun to see where his already poor QB skills have eroded to by then. I'd do this trade, and hope that next year's #1 is in the 29-32 range. I'd do it, but then we're immediately hoping that Mike Tannenbaum could find a way to draft a few starters with limited draft picks. If I made that trade for Cutler, I'd RUN--not walk--to sign Marvin Harrison. He may like to shoot people in parking lots, but he'd be an otherwise good influence on the young receivers, and on Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 It's ****ing April Fools day. Anyone take that into consideration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 It's ****ing April Fools day. Anyone take that into consideration? True, but the OP failed to post the whole article which would have given clues that it was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Yeah, because Jay has lead how many teams to 9 wins in a season? BZ A) 0 OMG....please look at Peyton's first couple of years You cannot be this obtuse...can't possibly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 True, but the OP failed to post the whole article which would have given clues that it was a joke. Its April's Fools. Nothing important or worthwhile will be posted today and everything that is written should be assumed to be in jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 today is not a good day to be april fools with the jay thing hanging over our heads. if it is real then I would be ok with that. It would mean that Sanchez falls by another team needing a qb in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 OMG....please look at Peyton's first couple of years You cannot be this obtuse...can't possibly Im on your side of the argument, but in Peyton's 2nd year, they were 13-3... Kind of hurts your argument some. Jay Cutler has played for a team without a defense. 11 orange pilons would be better. How do you expect the guy to win? Look at the last 3 games.. Defense allowed 30, 30, 52. Teams don't win that way consistently. In their losses, the Broncos allowed: 33 (KC), 24 (JAX), 41 (NE), 26 (MIA), 31 (OAK), 30 (CAR), 30 (BUF), 52 (SD) That's a lot to overcome. Sure, the offense laid eggs sometimes too but the damned defense ranked 30th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Im on your side of the argument, but in Peyton's 2nd year, they were 13-3... Kind of hurts your argument some. Jay Cutler has played for a team without a defense. 11 orange pilons would be better. How do you expect the guy to win? Look at the last 3 games.. Defense allowed 30, 30, 52. Teams don't win that way consistently. In their losses, the Broncos allowed: 33 (KC), 24 (JAX), 41 (NE), 26 (MIA), 31 (OAK), 30 (CAR), 30 (BUF), 52 (SD) That's a lot to overcome. Sure, the offense laid eggs sometimes too but the damned defense ranked 30th! i thought 13-3 was 3rd season there is also a 6-10 season..maybe 4th season peyton thru 43 Ints his 1st 2 years jets even clobbered him 41-0 in playoff game BZ is happy with same ole same ole crapola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I rather give up this years 1st and next years 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 the deal is worth it for a young QB just not the particular young QB we are discussing he's a crybaby bitch who would never succeed in NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman1 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 This is a no brainer!!!A 25 year old QB in his prime with a cannon arm who has already demonstrated Pro Bowl ability on the pro level??I give that up in a NY minute!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 the broncos have to get a QB in return they can tell their fans can play, or the #1 overall pick that's why he's not coming to NY, the jets don't have enough ammo, and mangina aint going to help tanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 HOOK, LINE & SINKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 WAY TOO MUCH for someone who hasnt even won a playoff game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 HOOK, LINE & SINKER Damn, for the better part of the day you had me fooled into thinking your were a rational Jets fan. Something just about as rare as Sasquatch himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Damn, for the better part of the day you had me fooled into thinking your were a rational Jets fan. Something just about as rare as Sasquatch himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 HOLY $HIT!! Where did you find that college picture of BP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 HOLY $HIT!! Where did you find that college picture of BP? College? That was last week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLs StepChild Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Since it's the all Jay Cun+ler board all the time I figured had to put that in there to get any views. But really - any word on USC? How did Rey run? Sanchez drills? What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsrule128 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Below are the first 2 full years starting stats of Favre, Elway, and Jay Cutler. Cutler will never be a Manning-type of player (super efficient), which is why I compared him to 2 players who were considered "gun-slingers". Plus both Favre and Elway were considered to have maturity issueswhen they first entered the league. Im fine if this doesnt happen and we take our shot with Clemens or Ratliff, but when you look at the numbers....it makes sense for us to send Clemens and 2 high picks to Denver for him. The best stat is that his completion % is over 60% in the last 2 years. Positive TD to Int ratio in his two full years as a starter. Strong enough arm for NJ/NY winter wind, plus experience playing in the cold. He is 25 and has 3 more years of manageable salary. You have to question his attitude throughout this whole process, but lets be serious, he is 25....people make mistakes when they are young. At the end of the day, top flight QB's are extremely hard to come by, and as much as I hate trading multiple picks, I think this move has to be made. Year Team G Comp Att Pct. Yds Y/G Y/A 300 Yd TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD 100 Yd Lost 2006 DEN 5 81 137 59.1 1001 200.2 7.3 0 9 5 12 18 3.6 1.5 0 0 2 2007 DEN 16 297 467 63.6 3497 218.6 7.5 2 20 14 44 205 12.8 4.7 1 0 4 2008 DEN 16 384 616 62.3 4526 282.9 7.3 8 25 18 57 200 12.5 3.5 2 0 2 Year Team G Comp Att Pct. Yds Y/G Y/A 300 Yd TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD 100 Yd Lost 1999 GB 16 342 596 57.4 4101 256.3 6.9 6 22 23 28 142 8.9 5.1 0 0 4 2000 GB 16 338 580 58.3 3812 238.3 6.6 2 20 16 26 113 7.1 4.3 0 0 5 Year Age Tm Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 1983 23 DEN QB 11 10 4-6-0 123 259 47.5 1663 7 14 14 5.4 49 6.4 4.3 13.5 151.2 54.9 28 218 5.0 3.1 9.8 1984 24 DEN QB 15 14 12-2-0 214 380 56.3 2598 18 15 15 3.9 73 6.8 5.5 12.1 173.2 76.8 24 158 6.0 4.8 5.9 1985 25 DEN QB 16 16 11-5-0 327 605 54.0 3891 22 23 23 3.8 65 6.4 5.1 11.9 243.2 70.2 38 307 5.6 4.3 5.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsrule128 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 PASSING GP Rating Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G -------------------------------------------------------------------- BEDNARIK, Adam 1 70.77 19-35-2 54.3 217 3 38 217.0 WASIL, Stephen 1 158.33 5-5-0 100.0 65 1 22 65.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 coming up on Sportscenter they are going to talk about Sanchez's pro day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I am assuming logically that any deal the Broncos make involving Cutler will be predicated on their ability to get themselves a legit NFL starter to replace him. The Lions have the ultimate carrot with the number one overall pick which the Broncos can use to select Stafford or Sanchez and replace Cutler with a hot shot rookie. Other teams competing in this sweepstakes have more established QBs to be placeholders until the Broncos find a replacement for Cutler or higher first round picks than the Jets. So unless the Jets get the Browns involved (which I don't think will work because the Broncos will probably want Quinn and I don't think Cleveland is willing to part with him) or nobody else is willing to part with two first-rounders I just don't see us having enough to win this sweepstakes. Please convince me I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I am assuming logically that any deal the Broncos make involving Cutler will be predicated on their ability to get themselves a legit NFL starter to replace him. The Lions have the ultimate carrot with the number one overall pick which the Broncos can use to select Stafford or Sanchez and replace Cutler with a hot shot rookie. Other teams competing in this sweepstakes have more established QBs to be placeholders until the Broncos find a replacement for Cutler or higher first round picks than the Jets. So unless the Jets get the Browns involved (which I don't think will work because the Broncos will probably want Quinn and I don't think Cleveland is willing to part with him) or nobody else is willing to part with two first-rounders I just don't see us having enough to win this sweepstakes. Please convince me I am wrong. If a team has an "established" QB... chances are they are not looking to trade them... Also why the heck would the Broncos want the #1 pick??? Way too expensive... Also with the picks they could get from a team like the JETS they could then go out and acquire whatever QB they want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I am assuming logically that any deal the Broncos make involving Cutler will be predicated on their ability to get themselves a legit NFL starter to replace him. The Lions have the ultimate carrot with the number one overall pick which the Broncos can use to select Stafford or Sanchez and replace Cutler with a hot shot rookie. Other teams competing in this sweepstakes have more established QBs to be placeholders until the Broncos find a replacement for Cutler or higher first round picks than the Jets. So unless the Jets get the Browns involved (which I don't think will work because the Broncos will probably want Quinn and I don't think Cleveland is willing to part with him) or nobody else is willing to part with two first-rounders I just don't see us having enough to win this sweepstakes. Please convince me I am wrong. Denver wants no part of #1 pick pay stafford $80M no way jose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 NFL.com has the 40 times up. Nothing earth shattering, but Matthews ran even better than the combine, 4.57. Sanchez didn't run and Maualuga will run later. Nothing on the drills. http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Since it's the all Jay Cun+ler board all the time I figured had to put that in there to get any views. But really - any word on USC? How did Rey run? Sanchez drills? What happened? Did Cutler punch your mom in the face or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I think a lot will depend on the Browns. If they don't want Cutler we have a good chance as even if it's DA that gets traded, he's still better then most of the "established" guys you are talking about... imo Buffalo is the team that should go get him.. Trent Edwards and a 1st makes a lot of sense for both teams.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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