JetNation Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 By Glenn Naughton While Jets fans anxiously wait for the team to announce which members of Todd Bowles’ coaching staff will survive in the aftermath of the team’s embarrassing 5-11 campaign, NFL insider Adam Schefter says big changes are coming on the defensive side of the ball. Jets making wholesale changes to defensive coaching staff today, per league sources. — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 3, 2017 Changes are most definitely in order after a Jets defense that was supposed to be among the league’s elite, was essentially a punching bag for any team who showed up to play. The offense had their fair share of struggles as well, but when you consider the amount of draft picks and dollars invested in Gang Green’s defense, it’s fair to say that the team was built to dominate on defense and to be efficient on offense. Neither unit met expectations, but it was the defense that finished 28th in the NFL in points allowed despite being far better compensated and much healthier as a group. This isn’t to say the offensive or special teams staffs are off the hook, but Schefter says defensive changes should be coming today. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Thank you, Jesus. Thank you Oprah. Thank You, Tom Cruise and your voodoo witchcraft . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Ninja'd About time the defensive let-down be put front and center. Hire an accomplished DC, who allows Bowles to function as a HC, not a glorified DC. Where have we heard this before??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 The man most responsible for the dreadful awful performance is the one tossing his hand picked staff under the bus, noice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Dear Lord, let this be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I wonder if that was part of the deal for Bowles maintaining his job, change your defensive coaches and spend more time being the head coach and less time being the defensive coordinator. We can only hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Ninja'd About time the defensive let-down be put front and center. Hire an accomplished DC, who allows Bowles to function as a HC, not a glorified DC. Where have we heard this before??? This will not happen, Head coaches that are totally affixed with their specialty will always sooner or later push the coordinator in the back ground. Bowles will not hire a guy who does not share his 'vision' and if he does he will usurp the guys authority the moment the jets hit a bump in the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlagmanL11 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Lets start with the HC of the NYJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 It was pretty much a given that this was going to happen. I wonder who will replace these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 DB coach Danna & DL coach Pepper Johnson need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I've said it on another thread I want Wade Phillips in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Get a real professional like Wade Phillips to be our Dc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 however they're quite pleased with the progress of the offensive and don't expect any changes to the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Pepper is a goner 100% for sure I would guess, probably Rogers as well. They should can the special teams coach as well. I don't care if they hire a new one every year for 20 years, keep doing it until we find one who can at least make us middle of the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 It's easy (and maybe even 100% correct) to point the finger at the HC and say the assistants just end up taking the fall... But I believe they're more important pieces than some of us realize. These are the guys the HC depends on to control, teach, and keep the players in the different groups in line... Yes, ultimately it's the HCs job. But he counts on these guys, and I really think they let him down this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, Charlie Brown said: I've said it on another thread I want Wade Phillips in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would be elated, but feel there is ZERO chance of this as long as Bowles is the hc. Bowles will not give up that much control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: About time the defensive let-down be put front and center. Damn right. It was the single biggest disappointment of 2016. Our best unit was actually our worst unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Joejet said: I wonder if that was part of the deal for Bowles maintaining his job, change your defensive coaches and spend more time being the head coach and less time being the defensive coordinator. We can only hope! Parcells' ism 101; "You can't coach the coaches"..... And he was and is 100% correct!! Bad and failed coaches do it all the time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Bowles is responsible for the D. NO one else. The idea that we will be hiring someone to free Bowles from running the D is insane. That is what he does. He does not know when to call timeouts. His challenges stink. He does not know whether to punt or go for it late. He always runs on 4th and 1. He has no respect in the clubhouse. If he is not doing the D, why is he even coaching? That is my point. He had one strong point before he came here. Now he has none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The man most responsible for the dreadful awful performance is the one tossing his hand picked staff under the bus, noice! This...plus 5 for good measure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Good moves by Coach BowlesWhoever it was that turned what was considered to be his aggressive pressure defense in Zona into this passive mess has to be replaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Damn right. It was the single biggest disappointment of 2016. Our best unit was actually our worst unit. Totally agree. I want Pepper Johnson out, replaced with Karl Dunbar. And Kacy needs to go in a hurry. Not sure who is available. Wade Phillips would be great lol but that won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I would be elated, but feel there is ZERO chance of this as long as Bowles is the hc. Bowles will not give up that much control. Seems like he doesn't have a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, DMan77 said: It's easy (and maybe even 100% correct) to point the finger at the HC and say the assistants just end up taking the fall... But I believe they're more important pieces than some of us realize. These are the guys the HC depends on to control, teach, and keep the players in the different groups in line... Yes, ultimately it's the HCs job. But he counts on these guys, and I really think they let him down this year. Westhoff has said this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I would be elated, but feel there is ZERO chance of this as long as Bowles is the hc. Bowles will not give up that much control. Well guess which one I am in favor getting the heck out of here then!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Answer = And he isn't related to Bum Phillips . I can tell you that!!! Bowles better be happy he wasn't just FIRED!!! He is turning this team into Kotite 2.0; its a joke!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 minute ago, C Mart said: Westhoff has said this. It's just such a hard thing for people to explain and for us to understand... It's like anything that we can't tangibly measure. It's hard to quantify how important they are, but there is a feeling that if there are weak links in the chain at those positions, it undermines a lot of things the coach wants to do... If he can't trust guys in those positions, he can't run the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Defensive-minded coach ruins a defense with tons of 1st round picks. And we thought those days were over when Rex was jettisoned. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..... I never want a defense-first HC ever again after Bowles. What good are they if they can't even do the one thing they know, and always make the GM take players early in the draft that fit his scheme, meanwhile neglecting O-line and preventing us from getting a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I hear Woody is hiring consultants to determine Bowles' new staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 wade philllips would be ideal. any other big names available for defesnsive coordinator and please dont say a ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 15 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: I've said it on another thread I want Wade Phillips in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would love Wade Phillips here (obviously) but isn't he going to be the favorite to be the HC in Denver? I haven't heard that btw but I'm just guessing that would be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 In before Bowles hires Rex Ryan as Jets new D-Co. There isn't a Troll Emoticon big enough and trolly enough if that were to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Defensive-minded coach ruins a defense with tons of 1st round picks. And we thought those days were over when Rex was jettisoned. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..... I never want a defense-first HC ever again after Bowles. What good are they if they can't even do the one thing they know, and always make the GM take players early in the draft that fit his scheme, meanwhile neglecting O-line and preventing us from getting a QB? Reactionary. I want another bad coach after Bowles. Specifically noobs that need to learn on the job for 3-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: Would love Wade Phillips here (obviously) but isn't he going to be the favorite to be the HC in Denver? I haven't heard that btw but I'm just guessing that would be the case. No, he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Reactionary. Only kind of. 4 straight defensive HC's, four straight failures. It may work elsewhere in the NFL but hasn't here. Changing our approach just for change's sake would be fine in my book. At least with an offense-minded HC he can provide some decent input on who the QB should be. Parcells doesn't really count, since he ceded most of the defensive control to Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 If there was one thing better than Woody picking the GM and Coach independently, it's meddling in the staff. Go Jets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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