Integrity28 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Rex Ryan wanted to sign Darrelle Revis... BADLY, per sources. However, decision was over his head. #nyj Via Manish Mehta Twitter **** you manish "sources" Sad that this is how he does his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 This is the GM who brilliantly gave Howard $6M/year: Rodger Saffold - T - Rams Ex-Rams G/T Rodger Saffold has failed his physical with the Raiders, voiding his five-year, $42.5 million contract. He's once again a free agent. It's to the point where we just feel bad for GM Reggie McKenzie, who is simply out of his depth. Valuing Saffold more, the Raiders let perfectly fine in-house option Jared Veldheer walk. Now they have neither, and a titanic hole on Terrelle Pryor/Matt McGloin/Unsigned Free Agent's blindside. As for Saffold, it wasn't exactly a secret that his health was a question mark. He's missed 17 games over the past three seasons. More versatile than effective, he'll go back to shopping his wares as a guard who can play tackle. It's quite possible he'll end up back with the Rams on a bargain deal. The Raiders are going to be historically bad (again) in 2014. Lol. Now watch the Jets sign Saffold for 1 year $2.25M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 This is the GM who brilliantly gave Howard $6M/year: Rodger Saffold - T - Rams Ex-Rams G/T Rodger Saffold has failed his physical with the Raiders, voiding his five-year, $42.5 million contract. He's once again a free agent. It's to the point where we just feel bad for GM Reggie McKenzie, who is simply out of his depth. Valuing Saffold more, the Raiders let perfectly fine in-house option Jared Veldheer walk. Now they have neither, and a titanic hole on Terrelle Pryor/Matt McGloin/Unsigned Free Agent's blindside. As for Saffold, it wasn't exactly a secret that his health was a question mark. He's missed 17 games over the past three seasons. More versatile than effective, he'll go back to shopping his wares as a guard who can play tackle. It's quite possible he'll end up back with the Rams on a bargain deal. The Raiders are going to be historically bad (again) in 2014. Lol. Now watch the Jets sign Saffold for 1 year $2.25M. I wouldn't mind signing saffold for cheap, many coaches think he's a better guard then tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 This is the GM who brilliantly gave Howard $6M/year: Rodger Saffold - T - Rams Ex-Rams G/T Rodger Saffold has failed his physical with the Raiders, voiding his five-year, $42.5 million contract. He's once again a free agent. It's to the point where we just feel bad for GM Reggie McKenzie, who is simply out of his depth. Valuing Saffold more, the Raiders let perfectly fine in-house option Jared Veldheer walk. Now they have neither, and a titanic hole on Terrelle Pryor/Matt McGloin/Unsigned Free Agent's blindside. As for Saffold, it wasn't exactly a secret that his health was a question mark. He's missed 17 games over the past three seasons. More versatile than effective, he'll go back to shopping his wares as a guard who can play tackle. It's quite possible he'll end up back with the Rams on a bargain deal. The Raiders are going to be historically bad (again) in 2014. Lol. Now watch the Jets sign Saffold for 1 year $2.25M. You have been on quite the roll lately. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I wouldn't mind signing saffold for cheap, many coaches think he's a better guard then tackle. He's already resigning with the Rams... That would be nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I take back everything I said doubting Idzik. Now, who the F is Breno Giacomini? Doesn't he own a pizza parlor in Bay Ridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Upgrade for less like it, Decker for 7per all liking it here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Saffold isn't uninteresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 is he good? He has been starting in Seattle. Older than our guy (whose name I have already forgotten) but OLs play til they are mid thirties, injuries permitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Insignificant. There's no possible way that we can replace the presence that was Willie Roaf Austin Howard Haha. Is the ghost of Al Davis still running the Raiders? Overpay, pure and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Denver 13- 3 Kansas City 11- 5 San Diego 9- 7 Oakland 4- 12 Let's see how well Howard does against Von Miller, Tamba Hali/ Justin Houston this coming season 2x/yr. Oakland will find out quickly why Idzik only valued Howard as a mid-level RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Good signing..It wont please the Madden Football Mindset who only see name players as improving the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Who cares, This guy sucks, He sucks? This is based on what? This is a really good move. Howard is an average player who just got an above average contract. Great job by the Jets finding a cheaper alternative. You can't go all out for Howard, he isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 He sucks? This is based on what? This is a really good move. Howard is an average player who just got an above average contract. Great job by the Jets finding a cheaper alternative. You can't go all out for Howard, he isn't good enough. I don't want Howard. Didn't want this guy either. My bet is the Jets draft someone. Lots of T's in this draft. Can be had in the 3rd, or even 4th rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Another guy who is known for having a mean streak. A common trait in the linemen Idzik has brought here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Another guy who is known for having a mean streak. A common trait in the linemen Idzik has brought here. Nothing wrong with that at all-as long as you have it under control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Another guy who is known for having a mean streak. A common trait in the linemen Idzik has brought here. That is a good thing. I agree with FABA play angry but under control... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Nothing wrong with that at all-as long as you have it under control Absolutely. I like that Idzik is going for nasty players. He wants us to be the team that everyone hates to play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Do we know $$ yet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Nonsense. Either Geno takes a step forward and shows he can be a good QB, or the year is a bust, and we're drafting a QB high again. Geno is crap IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 He sucks? This is based on what? This is a really good move. Howard is an average player who just got an above average contract. Great job by the Jets finding a cheaper alternative. You can't go all out for Howard, he isn't good enough. all I can say Phil to some of these 'he aint famous' comments is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Geno is crap IMHO Yup. And it's well documented that you form your opinions way to early and refuse to change them. I'm willing to see how this year goes. He gets an incomplete from me, as a 1st year guy out of a spread offense, who'd never taken a snap under center, and was playing with the worst offensive talent in the league (when healthy, which was rare). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 all I can say Phil to some of these 'he aint famous' comments is: i see your double facepalm and raise you a triple facepalm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Yup. And it's well documented that you form your opinions way to early and refuse to change them. I'm willing to see how this year goes. He gets an incomplete from me, as a 1st year guy out of a spread offense, who'd never taken a snap under center, and was playing with the worst offensive talent in the league (when healthy, which was rare). Smash was willing to give Sanchez a chance based on his lack of weapons, yet he's written off Geno already? Ya don't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Do we know what he got paid? Or any guesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Do we know what he got paid? Or any guesses? Not sure. But we do know that the Oakland Raiders just made Austin Howard the # 4 highest paid RT in the NFL (base salary): http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/right-tackle/limit-25/ Idzik avoiding that and bringing in a comparable talent is a win in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I thougt Giacomino graded higher than Howard anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Not sure. But we do know that the Oakland Raiders just made Austin Howard the # 4 highest paid RT in the NFL (base salary): http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/right-tackle/limit-25/ Idzik avoiding that and bringing in a comparable talent is a win in my book. Yeah, the difference between his and Decker's salary is about $1mil per. If losing Howard meant we could get Decker and a starting RT for another $3mil, then it was a good deal all along. I can't imagine Breno getting more than 2-3mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Anyone know the figures on this one yet? Must be no where near the 7 Howard got cause no one is jumping all over how the Jets are a joke cause they couldve just resign Howard for a little more. At worst...its a wash as far as talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Anyone know the figures on this one yet? Must be no where near the 7 Howard got cause no one is jumping all over how the Jets are a joke cause they couldve just resign Howard for a little more. At worst...its a wash as far as talent. howard got 6m per, not 7. in a very manageable contract. at worst its a wash as far as talent? I think at the very best its a wash at talent and that is wishful thinking. howard was an improving solid young tackle..the most consistant player on the jets oline last year. the way posters around here discard him as a bum and praise idzik for not overpaying to the tune of a half million dollars a year for our starting right tackle is laughable. 3/4 of this board never even heard of breno and all of a sudden its an upgrade pff is not the way to judge talent, my friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 howard got 6m per, not 7. in a very manageable contract. at worst its a wash as far as talent? I think at the very best its a wash at talent and that is wishful thinking. howard was an improving solid young tackle..the most consistant player on the jets oline last year. the way posters around here discard him as a bum and praise idzik for not overpaying to the tune of a half million dollars a year for our starting right tackle is laughable. 3/4 of this board never even heard of breno and all of a sudden its an upgrade pff is not the way to judge talent, my friends The Raiders paid Austin Howard like a top 5 RT. He's not a top 5 RT. Pretty simple. He was an above-average pass blocker and a below-average run blocker. On a run-first team. He was very much expendable. Also, you say no one here had heard of Giacomini? Not true. Meanwhile, 1 year ago, no one had heard of Austin Howard. Giacomini was a small part of the reason the Seahawks won a Super Bowl. Idzik, a Seattle guy, is probably familiar with him. I'll trust his judgment here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Yeah, the difference between his and Decker's salary is about $1mil per. If losing Howard meant we could get Decker and a starting RT for another $3mil, then it was a good deal all along. I can't imagine Breno getting more than 2-3mil. 1.3m to be exact. I am sure with 40m-50m under the capped, they could have 'squeezed' howards & deckers contract in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The Raiders paid Austin Howard like a top 5 RT. He's not a top 5 RT. Pretty simple. Also, 1 year ago, no one had heard of Austin Howard either. every year, contracts go up. I am sure next year, another batch of tackles will make as much if not more and wont be considered top 5 tackles either. we all heard of howard and watched his game get better last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 every year, contracts go up. I am sure next year, another batch of tackles will make as much if not more and wont be considered top 5 tackles either Cool. So we're just supposed to overpay Howard because "market"? He went to the Raiders. Not exactly a team with a pedigree for accurately valuing talent. They handed Rodger Saffold $42M before he failed his physical. Yeah, I don't think we're the losers here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Cool. So we're just supposed to overpay Howard because "market"? He went to the Raiders. Not exactly a team with a pedigree for accurately valuing talent. They handed Rodger Saffold $42M before he failed his physical. Yeah, I don't think we're the losers here. so we supposed to let our starting right tackle go to the tune of a half million dollars,amounting to peanuts in nfl $, on an already shaky oline, all the while trying to develop a shaky young rookie qb? genius. if idzik thought breno was the better option than howard, he wouldn't have made howard his priority signing and wouldn't have offered howard, from what I can tell, damn close to what the raiders paid. howard was idziks plan A, as well as it should have been and plan B took affect over a half million dollars or less. I could care less what the raiders did/do.. they have no bearing on this at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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