hmhertz Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Im not sure what Hertz is trying to convey however, I am a Waldman subscriber (and colleague through FBG) and can recommend him as a thorough source. He was high on Chad Hansen in 2017 he called him "A graceful down field player at the point" and "super Quick" In terms of projection he said "Big-play perimeter threat with WR2 upside in man, timing, zone, vertical and red zone." in his multi year grades (where he puts all the years together) He had Hansen a rated a tick higher than Sterling Shepard and Zay Jones Also there was a Jets-related tidbit in his June Newsletter: Teddy Bridgewater: Rich Cimini and Manish Mehta each wrote spotlights on Bridgewater’s impressive Week 1 showing during Jets OTAs. Both writers used post-practice press conference quotes from Jermaine Kearse about Bridgewater and Mehta also spoke with Josh McCown. Their conclusion: If Bridgewater continues to impress and Darnold isn’t ready, Bridgewater could start. If Darnold is ready immediately, Bridgewater could get traded to a QB-needy team later this summer. The RSP View: They important thing that Kearse noted about Bridgewater was the quarterback’s communication about ball placement on specific routes. It’s a detail that shows veteran leadership with a receiving corps and is often lost on younger passers. This detail alone isn’t an indication that Bridgewater will be the starter. However, it’s a notable skill that veteran starters have in common. Whether it was asking about a receiver’s preference on a route or telling a receiver his own, Peyton Manning communicated pinpoint intentions about ball placement. The best quarterbacks communicate and execute the highest level of detail. When evaluating quarterbacks, knowledge and execution of detail is often the difference between physical NFL talents and actual NFL starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Im not sure what Hertz is trying to convey however, I am a Waldman subscriber (and colleague through FBG) and can recommend him as a thorough source. He was high on Chad Hansen in 2017 he called him "A graceful down field player at the point" and "super Quick" In terms of projection he said "Big-play perimeter threat with WR2 upside in man, timing, zone, vertical and red zone." in his multi year grades (where he puts all the years together) He had Hansen a rated a tick higher than Sterling Shepard and Zay Jones Also there was a Jets-related tidbit in his June Newsletter: Teddy Bridgewater: Rich Cimini and Manish Mehta each wrote spotlights on Bridgewater’s impressive Week 1 showing during Jets OTAs. Both writers used post-practice press conference quotes from Jermaine Kearse about Bridgewater and Mehta also spoke with Josh McCown. Their conclusion: If Bridgewater continues to impress and Darnold isn’t ready, Bridgewater could start. If Darnold is ready immediately, Bridgewater could get traded to a QB-needy team later this summer. The RSP View: They important thing that Kearse noted about Bridgewater was the quarterback’s communication about ball placement on specific routes. It’s a detail that shows veteran leadership with a receiving corps and is often lost on younger passers. This detail alone isn’t an indication that Bridgewater will be the starter. However, it’s a notable skill that veteran starters have in common. Whether it was asking about a receiver’s preference on a route or telling a receiver his own, Peyton Manning communicated pinpoint intentions about ball placement. The best quarterbacks communicate and execute the highest level of detail. When evaluating quarterbacks, knowledge and execution of detail is often the difference between physical NFL talents and actual NFL starters. Hope Darnold caught onto what Teddy was talking to Kearse about...that’s good to know though. The QB room really could be a vital piece to Sam’s early development..even more so than anyone can vocally express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Is "Duck" a nickname that I should recognize? Not going to sit through that whole advertisement for a draft guide to hear a minute or two on an unidentified player's throwing motion. And no, my time isn't that important. But I'm still not going to sit through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Is "Duck" a nickname that I should recognize? Not going to sit through that whole advertisement for a draft guide to hear a minute or two on an unidentified player's throwing motion. And no, my time isn't that important. But I'm still not going to sit through it. Henry's little play on words: Duck, as in Donald Duck -----> In Henry's brain, he hears "Darnold" Duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Is "Duck" a nickname that I should recognize? Not going to sit through that whole advertisement for a draft guide to hear a minute or two on an unidentified player's throwing motion. And no, my time isn't that important. But I'm still not going to sit through it. You shouldn't have to sit through it. And I won't stand for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: Henry's little play on words: Duck, as in Donald Duck -----> In Henry's brain, he hears "Darnold" Duck. Putting aside the extraordinary lack of humor in it, I guess we are mind readers? How would we know wtf he is talking about with the free association nick name that absolutely no one else uses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Putting aside the extraordinary lack of humor in it, I guess we are mind readers? How would we know wtf he is talking about with the free association nick name that absolutely no one else uses? It's a dementia kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I thought we kinda sorta all agreed Sam Darnold would have no nicknames...since they all sounded so dumb. This 'Duck' one is one of the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, PepPep said: I thought we kinda sorta all agreed Sam Darnold would have no nicknames...since they all sounded so dumb. This 'Duck' one is one of the worst. The DNA was about the only cool one out of a 2,000 page thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 The King and the Duck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 38 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Putting aside the extraordinary lack of humor in it, I guess we are mind readers? How would we know wtf he is talking about with the free association nick name that absolutely no one else uses? I actually thought maybe teddy B played college for Oregon Ducks? ?♂️ Ha. There is no way anyone is going to be calling our franchise qb “ Duck” because some idiot writer thinks the name Darnold sounds like Duck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 The only nickname he needs to pick up is "The Super Bowl winning Quarterback of the New York Jets" Sam Darnold. Hopefully he only has that nickname for a year before it needs to be updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I don't mind "Sam I am" but I wouldn't force it on anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: Is "Duck" a nickname that I should recognize? Not going to sit through that whole advertisement for a draft guide to hear a minute or two on an unidentified player's throwing motion. And no, my time isn't that important. But I'm still not going to sit through it. This. Oh, and I originally thought you were talking about Suzyn Waldman and wanted to kill myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Oh god, not this guy again, with his boring, droning voice that makes me want to wash my face with broken glass. He uses stupid colloquialisms like "get r done" and admits his slant is southern. to refer to Sam as a duck, just shows his ignorance...like me saying war eagle to a Bama fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Dcat said: Henry's little play on words: Duck, as in Donald Duck -----> In Henry's brain, he hears "Darnold" Duck. Jeezus Crepes. Talk about a stretch. Thanks for the explanation because I was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said: Oh god, not this guy again, with his boring, droning voice that makes me want to wash my face with broken glass. He uses stupid colloquialisms like "get r done" and admits his slant is southern. to refer to Sam as a duck, just shows his ignorance...like me saying war eagle to a Bama fan. he didn't refer to Darnold as a Duck. The person who posted the scouting report did. The film analysis and scouting report is actually quite thorough and , IMO, accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Here is the right Youtube on Darnold's mechanics- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 The question is, why was I just subjected to a 6 minute ad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Who do I owe an apology ? I feel like saying sorry to someone for something after seeing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: Putting aside the extraordinary lack of humor in it, I guess we are mind readers? How would we know wtf he is talking about with the free association nick name that absolutely no one else uses? I literally only read the replies in this thread to find out how stupid a nickname it was. It didn’t disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 “Darnold Duck” is a million times better than “Sudden Sam.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 What is this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Only thing I got from this was Pat Mahomes was the best prospect rated in the last 3 years at the QB position by him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: The DNA was about the only cool one out of a 2,000 page thread. This is the one! "The DNA" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 36 minutes ago, T0mShane said: “Darnold Duck” is a million times better than “Sudden Sam.” Is it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Is it though. Leaps and bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Ha! Darnold Duck I never realized that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 FTR, Darnold’s motion is super weird and I’ll guarantee at some point it becomes a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: “Darnold Duck” is a million times better than “Sudden Sam.” I don’t like Sudden Sam at all. Not to be a dick to whoever came up with it. I do like Green Jets and Sam.........I’ll show myself out now....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: I don’t like Sudden Sam at all. Not to be a dick to whoever came up with it. I do like Green Jets and Sam.........I’ll show myself out now....... @Larz came up with Sudden Sam and it’s awful. Should really self-ban imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, T0mShane said: @Larz came up with Sudden Sam and it’s awful. Should really self-ban imho It was actually the Fox play by play announcer who used it first last season Gus every play is the game winning TD in the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Lupz27 said: It was actually the Fox play by play announcer who used it first last season Gus every play is the game winning TD in the Super Bowl. Still blaming @Larz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Name like Sam, doesn’t need a nckname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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