Alka Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 What if the current GM and his staff were in place at the beginning of 2019, before the draft and free agency began? I actually like most of the moves made by Macc this offseason, with the exception of the lack of center, edge rusher and cornerback. Still love that we got: CJ Moseley, Crowder, our running back. Love getting Q Wiliams, Polite seems to be a decent pick in round 3, like our new tight end in round 4. Love our trade for Osemele for a 5th round pick for left tackle. How much better would Douglas have done? Of course we'll never know, but would Douglas have been able to plug all the holes and still get the quality players that we seemed to have gotten? 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The sun would have spit a solar flare in our direction so massive, that our atmosphere was destroyed and all life on this planet would have been extinguished. The end. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It is never the time to play the “what if” game. It doesn’t provide you anything for the future, can’t change the past. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jetsplayer21 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alka said: What if the current GM and his staff were in place at the beginning of 2019, before the draft and free agency began? I actually like most of the moves made by Macc this offseason, with the exception of the lack of center, edge rusher and cornerback. Still love that we got: CJ Moseley, Crowder, our running back. Love getting Q Wiliams, Polite seems to be a decent pick in round 3, like our new tight end in round 4. Love our trade for Osemele for a 5th round pick for left tackle. How much better would Douglas have done? Of course we'll never know, but would Douglas have been able to plug all the holes and still get the quality players that we seemed to have gotten? Have to “ lol “ at this. Douglas, most certainly would have done better, Hell any gm would. Mac did not “ select out of thin air “ the signed players. He just lucked into a gm’s wet dream with most cap in nfl ? He didn’t “ woooo” anyone to come here. He just massively overpaid for Mosley, bell, and even crowder.. He wasn’t able to do 2 things at once like a normal gm. While he was letting bell search for last min offers, 2 of the top FA centers were signing elsewhere while Mac saw absolutely no urgency for a center. Which is no surprise since he was the biggest anti -OL gm. That is what really sent Gase over the edge. Any HC not a D guru like bowles, understands the importance of a quality center, especially for a young qb. Douglas and any competent gm in our position makes a hard run at paradis, and like gets him.. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 And anyone would know the answer how exactly? Thread should read, who would you have rather drafted. Because thats what youre going to get 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Isnt the "what if" game, literally the life of a Jets fan summed up into 2 words? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Geesh you guys suck at playing. What if Douglas was in place before the off season? I doubt Bell would have been signed. I can see Mosley and Crowder still being signed. I think he would've made it a priority to sign one of the centers in free agency. If not, prob would have tried to trade down BUT he believe being strong in the trenches, so i'm not sure he would've passed on Quinnen Williams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 What if the Nazis had jet skis equipped with torpedo tubes that shot fire breathing sting rays? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 What if none of the guys Macc got for us pan out? Then it is easy to think Douglas could have done better.What if all of them do? Was it Macc finding them? Douglas? Gase?What if it doesn't matter who the coach and front office are because secretly the johnsons have been pulling the strings since owning the team? What if Douglas fails?Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: What if the Nazis had jet skis equipped with torpedo tubes that shot fire breathing sting rays? You'd have the plot for Inglorious Basterds 2? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I like the draft and FA we had- thought the eagles reached for the tackle in the first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Alka said: What if the current GM and his staff were in place at the beginning of 2019, before the draft and free agency began? 1 hour ago, Alka said: How much better would Douglas have done? 1 hour ago, Alka said: Of course we'll never know, but would Douglas have been able to plug all the holes and still get the quality players that we seemed to have gotten? I have no idea. What happened happened and could't have happened any other way (to quote Morpheus). This is one of things were folks can say anything they want tbqh, and there is no "proof" they're wrong. So sure, Douglas would have pried Brady from the Pats, and found 5 all-pro O-linemen in addition to Bell and Mosely and a great CB, and we'd be the de facto Super Bowl favorite. Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Have to “ lol “ at this. Douglas, most certainly would have done better, Hell any gm would. Mac did not “ select out of thin air “ the signed players. He just lucked into a gm’s wet dream with most cap in nfl ? He didn’t “ woooo” anyone to come here. He just massively overpaid for Mosley, bell, and even crowder.. He wasn’t able to do 2 things at once like a normal gm. While he was letting bell search for last min offers, 2 of the top FA centers were signing elsewhere while Mac saw absolutely no urgency for a center. Which is no surprise since he was the biggest anti -OL gm. That is what really sent Gase over the edge. Any HC not a D guru like bowles, understands the importance of a quality center, especially for a young qb. Douglas and any competent gm in our position makes a hard run at paradis, and like gets him.. Can you point out the bargain contracts that wee handed out to other players the caliber of Bell, Mosley, and Crowder. I'm not saying we didn't overpay to get them, but that seems to be the norm now with quality FA players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted June 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2019 I played the what if game with my wife once. It started, "What if we asked that waitress if she wanted to come back to the hotel with us and...." The game ended with me sleeping on the sofa. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 First off since Gase was not happy with the price of Bell, he probably signs with the Colts who I believe were tje other team that wanted to sign him. We don't draft QW, we trade down and get an OL most likely, we still sign Mosely and Crowder. Maybe one of the C's is a Jet. Hard to say on that one. It's not like we didn't invest in the OL so hard to say if we get both Ose and Paradis. That is a lot of money on the OL. Not sure Gase would have done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, freestater said: The sun would have spit a solar flare in our direction so massive, that our atmosphere was destroyed and all life on this planet would have been extinguished. The end. so we'll all be able to finally get some rest? that sounds nice 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Can you point out the bargain contracts that wee handed out to other players the caliber of Bell, Mosley, and Crowder. I'm not saying we didn't overpay to get them, but that seems to be the norm now with quality FA players. Never mentioned bargain did I ? But when no other team is coming Close to your offer, why did Mac have to be a little punk and throw $$ away ? Did same thing with t Johnson, Revis, fitz.. was just a bad gm. All while letting a major position and need on offense go un touched. Center. No way Douglas would have not made a strong push for paradis. Mac was just a bad gm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: First off since Gase was not happy with the price of Bell, he probably signs with the Colts who I believe were tje other team that wanted to sign him. We don't draft QW, we trade down and get an OL most likely, we still sign Mosely and Crowder. Maybe one of the C's is a Jet. Hard to say on that one. It's not like we didn't invest in the OL so hard to say if we get both Ose and Paradis. That is a lot of money on the OL. Not sure Gase would have done that. Mac had to invest $$ on OL because we probably were only team in nfl not to have a starting OL on a rookie deal. Most have 2-3. Most teams actually draft OL before 6 round more than once in 6 years lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Never mentioned bargain did I ? But when no other team is coming Close to your offer, why did Mac have to be a little punk and throw $$ away ? Did same thing with t Johnson, Revis, fitz.. was just a bad gm. All while letting a major position and need on offense go un touched. Center. No way Douglas would have not made a strong push for paradis. Mac was just a bad gm Nobody is disputing your position on Mac, but overpaying for FA is what is done by every team. If you don't, you will just sign scrubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said: What if the Nazis had jet skis equipped with torpedo tubes that shot fire breathing sting rays? What if Spartacus had a Piper Cub? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said: What if the Nazis had jet skis equipped with torpedo tubes that shot fire breathing sting rays? We’d all be speaking German right now 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The crazy thing is we are going to win 10-11 games this year and make the playoffs. Gase will win coach of the year. Quinnin will win rookie of the year. Darnold will blossom into a franchise qb. Leveon bell will lead the league in rushing. Adams, Leo, Mosely, trumaine, the olineman we signed from the raiders and robbie anderson will all make the pro bowl. and we will marvel at how mac put this all together and why the heck did we get rid of this genius. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The "what if" game is the perfect vehicle for posters to assert scenarios which support their existing positions. The scenarios would be impossible to either prove or disprove and so the results of any ensuing discussions would, dare i say it, be rather predictable. On the other hand it is the off season so have at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Alka said: What if the current GM and his staff were in place at the beginning of 2019, before the draft and free agency began? They couldn't have been so there is no point to this. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Nobody is disputing your position on Mac, but overpaying for FA is what is done by every team. If you don't, you will just sign scrubs. Lol my position ? That he was a gm ? I thought that was everyone now ?♂️ Eccentricity yours lol. Yes again, you can have the best offer, but also do not have to be desperate like mac and not only give best offer, but best by a lot. That that in gm 101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Alka said: What if the current GM and his staff were in place at the beginning of 2019, before the draft and free agency began? I actually like most of the moves made by Macc this offseason, with the exception of the lack of center, edge rusher and cornerback. Still love that we got: CJ Moseley, Crowder, our running back. Love getting Q Wiliams, Polite seems to be a decent pick in round 3, like our new tight end in round 4. Love our trade for Osemele for a 5th round pick for left tackle. How much better would Douglas have done? Of course we'll never know, but would Douglas have been able to plug all the holes and still get the quality players that we seemed to have gotten? how was the play mrs. lincoln? >>>I actually like most of the moves made by Macc this offseason, with the exception of the lack of center, edge rusher and cornerback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 No way Douglas drafts character concerns in Polite and Edoga. If you read between the lines it sounds like Polite hasn’t looked good in prectice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, EM31 said: The "what if" game is the perfect vehicle for posters to assert scenarios which support their existing positions. The scenarios would be impossible to either prove or disprove and so the results of any ensuing discussions would, dare i say it, be rather predictable. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Agree with SAR I that this front office is not possible before the draft but since we are playing "what if", they would have; signed Crowder, Bell and Mosley plus Saffold, Paradis and Barr for the same money kept 5th round pick, swapping 6th round picks with Raiders for Osemele traded Lee before or during draft to add pick this year instead of waiting a year extended LW and traded #3 for Bradbury at #15 and Greedy Williams in 2nd (both Washington picks) plus extra picks for next two years (at minimum traded LW for 2nd round pick to get Greedy) trade up for Chase Winovich right in front of cheats for the big FU - boom plus they run a train on giselle while tammy watches (ok, that might be going too far) LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: I played the what if game with my wife once. It started, "What if we asked that waitress if she wanted to come back to the hotel with us and...." The game ended with me sleeping on the sofa. I got the three some....? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 What if C A T actually spells dog??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: First off since Gase was not happy with the price of Bell, he probably signs with the Colts who I believe were tje other team that wanted to sign him. We don't draft QW, we trade down and get an OL most likely, we still sign Mosely and Crowder. Maybe one of the C's is a Jet. Hard to say on that one. It's not like we didn't invest in the OL so hard to say if we get both Ose and Paradis. That is a lot of money on the OL. Not sure Gase would have done that. I like Bell as 2-3 year guy that supports Darnold as both an "attention getter" and a safety valve for the offense on check-downs. The Jets had the money and I have no issue with them using it on Bell. The question when a team drafts or signs anyone relates to the opportunity cost. In other words, when you pay someone it means you're not paying somebody else....you've passed on that opportunity. Same for the draft. Taking QW meant the Jets weren't taking Josh Allen, weren't trading down, etc. I think that in the end this is all going to work out because Maccagnan did some things that Douglas likely wouldn't have and now Douglas is expected to be super-focused on the OLine. I think that a franchise LT, a starting Center and a WR1 are on the way....with all 3 possible as soon as the Spring using both FA and the Draft. I like the 2021 Draft to get the young RB that will replace Bell. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 hours ago, MDL_JET said: Geesh you guys suck at playing. What if Douglas was in place before the off season? I doubt Bell would have been signed. I can see Mosley and Crowder still being signed. I think he would've made it a priority to sign one of the centers in free agency. If not, prob would have tried to trade down BUT he believe being strong in the trenches, so i'm not sure he would've passed on Quinnen Williams. Gase pretty much said he wanted Mosley. For his leadership. And Crowder was made for Gase, who loves slot guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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