Popular Post KRL Posted November 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2019 For the first time in over a year (10/7/18 and 10/14/18) the Jets actually won two games in a row. WSH stinks and has an over matched rookie QB but who are the Jets to throw wins back. The key points of this game were the offense generated 34 points for a second week in a row and the defense slapped Haskins around all day: Special Teams - Sam Ficken has opened the door to being replaced in 2020. Granted his misses (XP and FG) didn't affect the outcome of the game but he's showing too much inconsistency. At best he's going to have to fight for his spot in camp next year - Lachlan Edwards has graduated from a boom/bust punter early in his career to a consistent "field changer". He had another solid day with a 42 yard average and one punt inside the 20 yard line - Horrid fumble by Vyncint Smith on his only kickoff return. Fortunately for him WSH didn't score on their possession. Finally an impactful game by Braxton Berrios as he had a 14 yard average on four punt returns Defense - Solid overall game by the defense as they stuffed the run and shut down WSH passing game. From a "stat" perspective I'm sure they're kicking themselves because of the meaningless numbers Haskins generated in the 4th quarter - Another impressive performance by Bless Austin as he built on his pro debut against NYG. How refreshing to watch a CB that's fast, has good awareness, speed and is a willing tackler. The total opposite of Trumaine Johnson, thank goodness - In addition to Austin these were the other defensive stars: * James Burgess has grown as his reps have increased. With 9 Tackles, .5 Sack, 2 TFL, 1 QB Hit * Henry Anderson with 5 Tackles, 1 Sack, 1 TFL, 2 QB Hits * Neville Hewit had a nice return to the lineup with 5 Tackles, 1 INT, 1 PBU * Nathan Shepherd with another strong game 3 Tackles, 1 Sack, 1 TFL, 1 QB Hit. In two games he has put to shame what Leonard Williams has done in the past two years * Jamal Adams with another huge game 4 Tackles, 3 Sacks, 3 TFL, 4 QB Hits - I know its nitpicking but Marcus Maye has to make that INT. He can't let a "scrawny" WR pull the ball away from him Offense - Adam Gase deserves credit for his "first 15 plays", as the offense has scored TD's on their first drive in the past four games. But unlike last week when the offense "blacked out" for two quarters the production stayed consistent. In addition scoring 34 points in back to back weeks is impressive. Getting Sam Darnold on the move by incorporating more rollouts was a nice touch. That's enough credit, now Gase has to keep it up - The OLine was solid in both phases for once. As they finally got over 100 yards on the ground (115) and allowed two sacks early on. They also had to incorporate Brandon Shell back in at RT as Chuma Edoga went down with an injury - I'm starting to be concerned that LeVeon Bell and this run scheme don't fit. Bilal Powell in his few reps (7 rushes / 42 yards) was much more explosive through the holes being opened. While Bell "eeked" his way to 59 yards on 18 rushes. Gase has to do a better job in utilizing Bell or bring in a run game coordinator. Because right now he's being wasted - I'm also concerned about Robby Anderson's role in the offense. Yes, he had a TD but that was his only catch of the day and it was for 6 yards. I'm starting to wonder if he's going to be re-signed - Ryan Griffin (5 recs / 109 yards / TD), Jamison Crowder (5 recs / 76 yards / TD) and Demaryius Thomas (4 recs / 44 yards) all seem to fit better with Darnold than Anderson does. They all run "dirty work" routes over the middle of the field where Anderson usually doesn't. Something to watch going forward - Awful INT by Sam Darnold as he went through at least 3 progressions on the play then still forced a throw into traffic. It could've been a turning point in the game but the defense held WSH to a FG. I know its strange to start the breakdown of Darnold's day with his only mistake (19/30, 293 yards, 4 TD) but the second half of the season is all about his progression. And proper decision making is critical in taking the next step as a QB. Other than that he displayed his "off script" ability and accuracy on the run as there were more rollouts in the game plan 14 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetster Posted November 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2019 Any win for Sam/Gase/GW with this sh*tty roster is a win, win, especially with Sam throwing 4 TDs. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IndianaJet Posted November 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2019 Considering where he was drafted, Bless Austin may just turn out to be Macc’s best call ever. Kid looks like the real deal. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, KRL said: I'm starting to be concerned that LeVeon Bell and this run scheme don't fit. Bilal Powell in his few reps (7 rushes / 42 yards) was much more explosive through the holes being opened. While Bell "eeked" his way to 59 yards on 18 rushes. Gase has to do a better job in utilizing Bell or bring in a run game coordinator. Because right now he's being wasted - I'm also concerned about Robby Anderson's role in the offense. Yes, he had a TD but that was his only catch of the day and it was for 6 yards. I'm starting to wonder if he's going to be re-signed I think you are "dead on" with your assessment of both LeVeon Bell and Robby Anderson. I would love to trade Bell for draft capital, since I believe that a high draft pick is more meaningful to the Jets than Bell is on the field. I would absolutely not resign Robby Anderson. We need to replace him with someone who we can throw to all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Y3k Posted November 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2019 If the only issue we have with a 22 yo QB making his 18th start is not always throwing the ball away... we have our guy. He threw the ball 30 times and made 29 good decisions. This hanging on and living/dying by every pick needs to stop. All Quarterbacks are going to throw picks and make bad decisions, occasionally. He has a two game stretch where he threw 7 picks- that’s irrelevant to the assessment of this game. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Y3k said: If the only issue we have with a 22 yo QB making his 18th start is not always throwing the ball away... we have our guy. I don't know...I think he has the physical skills. But stupid turnovers are actually destructive. Most NFL games are lost, not won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, phill1c said: I don't know...I think he has the physical skills. But stupid turnovers are actually destructive. Most NFL games are lost, not won. It’s a lot easier to coach someone to NOT do something that it is to do something which his physical ability doesn’t allow them to do. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I also I totally disagree with your take on the punter. The guy is terrible, multiple times he had punted against a short field and was woefully inaccurate trying to pin them back. Totally unimpressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RobR Posted November 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: Considering where he was drafted, Bless Austin may just turn out to be Macc’s best call ever. Kid looks like the real deal. He's been beyond impressive. He's athletic, has instincts, and plays a tough game with a nice rangy frame. Hopefully he turns into a TJ Watt type player who both had similar injuries in college. Maybe Mac can give us one decent parting gift. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobR said: He's been beyond impressive. He's athletic, has instincts, and plays a tough game with a nice rangy frame. Hopefully he turns into a TJ Watt type player who both had similar injuries in college. Maybe Mac can give us one decent parting gift. He's got some swag about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: He's got some swag about him. Out of all of the accolades I listed above I think instincts is the biggest one. He's already sniffing out plays and it was only his second game. And swag 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Bell isn't churning out the yards right now but when its 3rd and 2 and we give him the ball he gets the 1st down. I remember having tons of 3rd and short under Bowles and every time we ran we didn't get the 1st down. Time and time again under Bowles 3rd and short our runs were stuffed. Not with Bell. Also when Bell pass blocks he gets the job done - no questions asked. Bell has 500 yards rushing and about 300 receiving - not great but steady. He will get better as our line get better. Im fine with Bell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 It's crazy as great as it is to wins and feel good.Gase again made 0 adjustments in the game .. And was cool with it. Against good teams we lose every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Not to completely exonerate Anderson, but he has drawn a number of penalties this season, including a 33-yard PI call against the Giants last week. He also had a big catch taken back today because of an offensive penalty, holding I think. I think he's better than his stats show, but it is odd that the Jets can't seem to get him the ball a little more often. I don't recall if he is getting doubled with a Safety much. Anyone notice it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Some people just like to complain. First Adams and now Anderson. Geez these guys are respectively very good and good yet there is or has been a chorus of boos and naysayers. Sometimes fans make me sick. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 No mention of Dowell Loggains and his successful challenges? No mention of his contributions on offense or his sweet-natured, boyish good looks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetstream23 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: Some people just like to complain. First Adams and now Anderson. Geez these guys are respectively very good and good yet there is or has been a chorus of boos and naysayers. Sometimes fans make me sick. Most teams consider Robby the only real threat the Jets have. The Jets have been trailing in many/most games and I think he's the guy they're taking away along with playing Bell straight up because our Line is so bad. The guys who are benefiting on Crowder, Griffin, etc. who are eating all day on underneath routes, short and intermediate stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Rudy!Rudy!Rudy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Y3k said: I also I totally disagree with your take on the punter. The guy is terrible, multiple times he had punted against a short field and was woefully inaccurate trying to pin them back. Totally unimpressed. Edwards has been one of the most consistent players on the team all season and Is one of the better punters in the league. He is in no way shape or form terrible, in fact he is quite solid. He’s pinned teams inside their 20 yard line 20 times this season. Your assessment is objectively off base. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, the Claw said: Edwards has been one of the most consistent players on the team all season and Is one of the better punters in the league. He is in no way shape or form terrible, in fact he is quite solid. He’s pinned teams inside their 20 yard line 20 times this season. Your assessment is objectively off base. Disagree, not sure why the stat is “pinning” inside the 20. A pin is inside the 10, especially is you are punting from mid field. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Y3k said: Disagree, not sure why the stat is “pinning” inside the 20. A pin is inside the 10, especially is you are punting from mid field. Whatever the wording you want use is, Edwards has 20 punts inside the 20. Only four or five other punters in the league have more. Either way, you are incorrect in your assessment of the guy being “terrible.” There’s nothing to disagree with. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 6 hours ago, KRL said: - Awful INT by Sam Darnold as he went through at least 3 progressions on the play then still forced a throw into traffic. It could've been a turning point in the game but the defense held WSH to a FG. I know its strange to start the breakdown of Darnold's day with his only mistake (19/30, 293 yards, 4 TD) but the second half of the season is all about his progression. And proper decision making is critical in taking the next step as a QB. Other than that he displayed his "off script" ability and accuracy on the run as there were more rollouts in the game plan I love your camp reports and weekly game reports but focusing solely on the interception is one of only a few times I have disagreed with your take. It is just so myopic. When did the only defining characteristic of a QB become interceptions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 hours ago, RobR said: He's been beyond impressive. He's athletic, has instincts, and plays a tough game with a nice rangy frame. Hopefully he turns into a TJ Watt type player who both had similar injuries in college. Maybe Mac can give us one decent parting gift. Austin has been tremendously impressive. He covers well and hits hard. His technique is extremely good, as is his on-field awareness. For a 6th round pick playing in his 2nd game after nearly 2 years off, his play his been incredible. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 hours ago, RobR said: Maybe Mac can give us one decent parting gift. Other than the kick in the balls we’ve gotten the last few years... yes, just one good player MAC. Damn he fukked us hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I said it in the Robby Anderson thread and i won’t change my opinion on it - he stinks. He’s a 1 trick pony and JD should have taken whatever he was offered for Anderson. He won’t be back next year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpain Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Another solid post by KRL Always appreciate the posts. . But I would also include the solid not spectacular play of Beachum and Harrison. SAMs play has improved (not only because of weaker opponents) but because the O line play has improved, particularly at LT and C. Sam didn't stand a chance with the rookie at LT and Kalil playing the way he was. Would also like to say that Crowder is much better than I anticipated. He and Sam seem to have a great connection and this seems like one of the few positions I feel very very comfortable about going into next year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 8 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Really liked him in "The Wonder Years" but he's aged a lot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 hours ago, johnnysd said: I love your camp reports and weekly game reports but focusing solely on the interception is one of only a few times I have disagreed with your take. It is just so myopic. When did the only defining characteristic of a QB become interceptions? Fair points and in my post I said it was strange to focus on Darnold's INT to start my breakdown on him. But the second half of the season is all about his progression and I'm training myself to be more critical of all aspects of Darnold's play and not just his stats. Stats can sometimes mask bad traits which will come back to bite you when games are important 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 hours ago, the Claw said: Whatever the wording you want use is, Edwards has 20 punts inside the 20. Only four or five other punters in the league have more. Either way, you are incorrect in your assessment of the guy being “terrible.” There’s nothing to disagree with. Nothing impressive about a punt inside the 20 if you’re punting from mid field and you leave it on the 18. I don’t care what he’s done this season- he sucked yeateray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, KRL said: Fair points and in my post I said it was strange to focus on Darnold's INT to start my breakdown on him. But the second half of the season is all about his progression and I'm training myself to be more critical of all aspects of Darnold's play and not just his stats. Stats can sometimes mask bad traits which will come back to bite you when games are important Agree, decision making under pressure is usually the difference between a playoff team and a championship team Another good point was to finally see the rollout plays that should have been part of this offense since week one - seems like a strength for Sam and a great way to help a struggling OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Great stuff KRL! very insightful. As a huge fan of Bilal Powell, I agree with your bell assessment. Powell was the better runningback yesterday. A lot of Robbie Anderson's routes take more time to develop and our Oline hasn't been affording Sam the luxury of hitting a deep route. I'm fine either way if He stays or goes Shout out to our punt & kick coverage as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Really liked him in "The Wonder Years" but he's aged a lotOr that kid from the sixth sense really blew upSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 hours ago, jetstream23 said: I just want to pinch his cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, heymangold said: I said it in the Robby Anderson thread and i won’t change my opinion on it - he stinks. He’s a 1 trick pony and JD should have taken whatever he was offered for Anderson. He won’t be back next year. He is the Jets only deep threat. Just having him on the field creates space for other WRs and requires the D to decide on whether to provide FS deep help to the CB covering him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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