bla bla bla 2,041 #1 Posted November 19 I saw a Sports Illustrated article about how the Jets have a lot of money on IR so I decided to graph out all the teams in the NFL. I included the PUP and NFI list as well however I did not include Dead Cap which would swing the graph slightly, especially with the Colts and Dolphins. Thought you guys may enjoy it, not sure if it tells us anything though. edit - Numbers provided by OverTheCap.com edit 2 - Added a second graph that removes Big Ben, Alex Smith, Cam Newton and adds in CJ Mosley. It's easy to see why those teams are bad since they are missing their QB, we have just been bit real hard. 12 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUM-KNEE 13,737 #2 Posted November 19 Wow. Depressing..... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bla bla bla 2,041 #3 Posted November 19 Just now, BUM-KNEE said: Wow. Depressing..... I should note that the impact of losing Trumaine Johnson vs say the Lions losing Kerryon Johnson is not factored in well here haha so it's not a perfect graph by any means. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUM-KNEE 13,737 #4 Posted November 19 2 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I should note that the impact of losing Trumaine Johnson vs say the Lions losing Kerryon Johnson is not factored in well here haha so it's not a perfect graph by any means. Cowboys 33mil under us, even though people have the audacity to say they had guys out when we played them. LOL 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetFaninMI 4,148 #5 Posted November 19 Thanks for the effort, Very well done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerfish 19,336 #6 Posted November 19 All of our most expensive injured guys were terrible anyway. Thanks MacIdzik! 6 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 23,407 #7 Posted November 19 9 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I saw a Sports Illustrated article about how the Jets have a lot of money on IR so I decided to graph out all the teams in the NFL. I included the PUP and NFI list as well however I did not include Dead Cap which would swing the graph slightly, especially with the Colts and Dolphins. Thought you guys may enjoy it, not sure if it tells us anything though. edit - Numbers provided by OverTheCap.com So Jets training staff and player evaluation from a health standpoint has been utter sh*t? Shocking. Also, a little misleading, because there is no difference between losing a player to injury and losing players to other things (like, say, Luck deciding to retire). Steelers is mostly one guy, we're a ton of much cheaper guys. Number of Starting Player/Games missed would be a much better metric. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry McCockinner 6,226 #8 Posted November 19 16 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I saw a Sports Illustrated article about how the Jets have a lot of money on IR so I decided to graph out all the teams in the NFL. I included the PUP and NFI list as well however I did not include Dead Cap which would swing the graph slightly, especially with the Colts and Dolphins. Thought you guys may enjoy it, not sure if it tells us anything though. edit - Numbers provided by OverTheCap.com Nice work. Any chance you could plot number of wins over each team on this graph - would be interesting. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bla bla bla 2,041 #9 Posted November 19 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: So Jets training staff and player evaluation from a health standpoint has been utter sh*t? Shocking. Also, a little misleading, because there is no difference between losing a player to injury and losing players to other things (like, say, Luck deciding to retire). Steelers is mostly one guy, we're a ton of much cheaper guys. Number of Starting Player/Games missed would be a much better metric. I actually have the numbers for the dead cap hits like Luck as well, we finished 2nd to the Dolphins $83M to $79M. I wasn't sure how to show the amount of players and make it not look cluttered. I also ran into the issue of Big Ben and losing Brent Qvale both being counted as 1 player but the impact is different. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bla bla bla 2,041 #10 Posted November 19 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: Nice work. Any chance you could plot number of wins over each team on this graph - would be interesting. Wanted to do that, wasn't sure how to do it cleanly haha there is a clear favoring towards the healthy teams but then you have the Texans and 49ers which are outliers 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelly 2,716 #11 Posted November 19 10 minutes ago, Beerfish said: All of our most expensive injured guys were terrible anyway. Thanks MacIdzik! true 😪 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcoops 2,033 #12 Posted November 19 This explains why the Jets haven't placed C.J Mosley on IR. They don't want to make this graph look even scarier. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kdels62 2,668 #13 Posted November 19 That figure doesn’t include CJ Mosley who isn’t on IR but should be. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenwichjetfan 2,966 #14 Posted November 19 13 minutes ago, Warfish said: So Jets training staff and player evaluation from a health standpoint has been utter sh*t? Shocking. Also, a little misleading, because there is no difference between losing a player to injury and losing players to other things (like, say, Luck deciding to retire). Steelers is mostly one guy, we're a ton of much cheaper guys. Number of Starting Player/Games missed would be a much better metric. Please provide your better graph. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bla bla bla 2,041 #15 Posted November 19 Just now, mrcoops said: This explains why the Jets haven't placed C.J Mosley on IR. They don't want to make this graph look even worse. Seriously, we'd have another $13M on to bench 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonaldJet 112 #16 Posted November 19 None of the players on IR are better than their replacements. Mosely is not IR. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 23,407 #17 Posted November 19 15 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I actually have the numbers for the dead cap hits like Luck as well, we finished 2nd to the Dolphins $83M to $79M. I wasn't sure how to show the amount of players and make it not look cluttered. I also ran into the issue of Big Ben and losing Brent Qvale both being counted as 1 player but the impact is different. I appreciate your efforts and am sorry if it sounded like I was being critical of you, personally. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bla bla bla 2,041 #18 Posted November 19 1 minute ago, Warfish said: I appreciate your efforts and am sorry if it sounded like I was being critical of you, personally. Haha no worries, didn't take it that way 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelly 2,716 #19 Posted November 19 19 minutes ago, mrcoops said: This explains why the Jets haven't placed C.J Mosley on IR. They don't want to make this graph look even scarier. ..he'll be on it soon enough 😪 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 4,527 #20 Posted November 19 20 minutes ago, RonaldJet said: None of the players on IR are better than their replacements. Mosely is not IR. Just not true. Having Enunwa and Herdon healthy would make this offense exponentially better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 91,927 #21 Posted November 19 How much of Pittsburgh’s is Ben Roethlisberger? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bungaman 241 #22 Posted November 19 Also notice that a few of the other leaders on that list (Squealers, Panthers and Deadskins) have an expensive QB accounting for a lot of that moola. Maybe some other metric - someone mentioned games lost? - might also shed more light on how bad the injury bug has been for the Jets. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Crusher 206,375 #23 Posted November 19 Well when you sign big price tag free agents that are retired or historically always hurt your kinda cheating the system for that number one spot. Take that Patriots! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pdxgreen 1,409 #24 Posted November 19 Kalil and Johnson's contracts should have been considred dead the moment they hit the Metlife field. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apache 51 3,758 #25 Posted November 19 It's in the genes... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fusionCA 1,104 #26 Posted November 19 the Jets give stupid contacts to bad players tell me something I didn't know before.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rangerous 2,385 #27 Posted November 19 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: All of our most expensive injured guys were terrible anyway. Thanks MacIdzik! still the money a player gets should be a good indication of talent level. obviously there are slugs like wilky, hainsworth, trumaine but there are also guys like mosely who want to be on the field and play well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rangerous 2,385 #28 Posted November 19 1 hour ago, bla bla bla said: I saw a Sports Illustrated article about how the Jets have a lot of money on IR so I decided to graph out all the teams in the NFL. I included the PUP and NFI list as well however I did not include Dead Cap which would swing the graph slightly, especially with the Colts and Dolphins. Thought you guys may enjoy it, not sure if it tells us anything though. edit - Numbers provided by OverTheCap.com hmmm...of the bottom 5 only the jets didn't lose a qb to ir. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy Island 2,698 #29 Posted November 19 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: That figure doesn’t include CJ Mosley who isn’t on IR but should be. CJ Measly has to be the worst FA signing in a while based on production vs cost. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bla bla bla 2,041 #30 Posted November 19 Here is what that same graph would look like when you remove Alex Smith, Cam Newton, Big Ben and Add CJ Mosley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUM-KNEE 13,737 #31 Posted November 19 4 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Here is what that same graph would look like when you remove Alex Smith, Cam Newton, Big Ben and Add CJ Mosley. Holy kryptonite...... 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadienJetsFan 1,871 #32 Posted November 19 We’re #1! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bla bla bla 2,041 #33 Posted November 19 4 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: We’re #1! Something to hang our hat on haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usapaw 224 #34 Posted November 20 Finally we have won something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1ManRaid 28 #35 Posted November 20 10 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: Please provide your better graph. You don't have to be a double major in botany and automotive engineering to see a car stuck in a tree and go "that ain't right". It's ridiculous to demand that a retort to a public post has to equal the OP in effort or time invested. Otherwise you could make absolutely ridiculous claims with charts and graphs and stick figure drawings and be immune to criticism if the respondents don't do the same. Please ensure your response to this is equally as rambly if you don't want to automatically concede the convoluted point I'm making. Tl;dr....."Please provide your better detailed point rather than just posting a lame one line quip". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites