Popular Post bla bla bla Posted November 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2019 I saw a Sports Illustrated article about how the Jets have a lot of money on IR so I decided to graph out all the teams in the NFL. I included the PUP and NFI list as well however I did not include Dead Cap which would swing the graph slightly, especially with the Colts and Dolphins. Thought you guys may enjoy it, not sure if it tells us anything though. edit - Numbers provided by OverTheCap.com edit 2 - Added a second graph that removes Big Ben, Alex Smith, Cam Newton and adds in CJ Mosley. It's easy to see why those teams are bad since they are missing their QB, we have just been bit real hard. 12 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Wow. Depressing..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bla bla bla Posted November 19, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, BUM-KNEE said: Wow. Depressing..... I should note that the impact of losing Trumaine Johnson vs say the Lions losing Kerryon Johnson is not factored in well here haha so it's not a perfect graph by any means. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BUM-KNEE Posted November 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I should note that the impact of losing Trumaine Johnson vs say the Lions losing Kerryon Johnson is not factored in well here haha so it's not a perfect graph by any means. Cowboys 33mil under us, even though people have the audacity to say they had guys out when we played them. LOL 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Thanks for the effort, Very well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted November 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2019 All of our most expensive injured guys were terrible anyway. Thanks MacIdzik! 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I saw a Sports Illustrated article about how the Jets have a lot of money on IR so I decided to graph out all the teams in the NFL. I included the PUP and NFI list as well however I did not include Dead Cap which would swing the graph slightly, especially with the Colts and Dolphins. Thought you guys may enjoy it, not sure if it tells us anything though. edit - Numbers provided by OverTheCap.com So Jets training staff and player evaluation from a health standpoint has been utter sh*t? Shocking. Also, a little misleading, because there is no difference between losing a player to injury and losing players to other things (like, say, Luck deciding to retire). Steelers is mostly one guy, we're a ton of much cheaper guys. Number of Starting Player/Games missed would be a much better metric. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I saw a Sports Illustrated article about how the Jets have a lot of money on IR so I decided to graph out all the teams in the NFL. I included the PUP and NFI list as well however I did not include Dead Cap which would swing the graph slightly, especially with the Colts and Dolphins. Thought you guys may enjoy it, not sure if it tells us anything though. edit - Numbers provided by OverTheCap.com Nice work. Any chance you could plot number of wins over each team on this graph - would be interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: So Jets training staff and player evaluation from a health standpoint has been utter sh*t? Shocking. Also, a little misleading, because there is no difference between losing a player to injury and losing players to other things (like, say, Luck deciding to retire). Steelers is mostly one guy, we're a ton of much cheaper guys. Number of Starting Player/Games missed would be a much better metric. I actually have the numbers for the dead cap hits like Luck as well, we finished 2nd to the Dolphins $83M to $79M. I wasn't sure how to show the amount of players and make it not look cluttered. I also ran into the issue of Big Ben and losing Brent Qvale both being counted as 1 player but the impact is different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: Nice work. Any chance you could plot number of wins over each team on this graph - would be interesting. Wanted to do that, wasn't sure how to do it cleanly haha there is a clear favoring towards the healthy teams but then you have the Texans and 49ers which are outliers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Beerfish said: All of our most expensive injured guys were terrible anyway. Thanks MacIdzik! true ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 This explains why the Jets haven't placed C.J Mosley on IR. They don't want to make this graph look even scarier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 That figure doesn’t include CJ Mosley who isn’t on IR but should be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Warfish said: So Jets training staff and player evaluation from a health standpoint has been utter sh*t? Shocking. Also, a little misleading, because there is no difference between losing a player to injury and losing players to other things (like, say, Luck deciding to retire). Steelers is mostly one guy, we're a ton of much cheaper guys. Number of Starting Player/Games missed would be a much better metric. Please provide your better graph. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, mrcoops said: This explains why the Jets haven't placed C.J Mosley on IR. They don't want to make this graph look even worse. Seriously, we'd have another $13M on to bench 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonaldJet Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 None of the players on IR are better than their replacements. Mosely is not IR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted November 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I actually have the numbers for the dead cap hits like Luck as well, we finished 2nd to the Dolphins $83M to $79M. I wasn't sure how to show the amount of players and make it not look cluttered. I also ran into the issue of Big Ben and losing Brent Qvale both being counted as 1 player but the impact is different. I appreciate your efforts and am sorry if it sounded like I was being critical of you, personally. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Warfish said: I appreciate your efforts and am sorry if it sounded like I was being critical of you, personally. Haha no worries, didn't take it that way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, mrcoops said: This explains why the Jets haven't placed C.J Mosley on IR. They don't want to make this graph look even scarier. ..he'll be on it soon enough ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, RonaldJet said: None of the players on IR are better than their replacements. Mosely is not IR. Just not true. Having Enunwa and Herdon healthy would make this offense exponentially better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 How much of Pittsburgh’s is Ben Roethlisberger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Also notice that a few of the other leaders on that list (Squealers, Panthers and Deadskins) have an expensive QB accounting for a lot of that moola. Maybe some other metric - someone mentioned games lost? - might also shed more light on how bad the injury bug has been for the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Well when you sign big price tag free agents that are retired or historically always hurt your kinda cheating the system for that number one spot. Take that Patriots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Kalil and Johnson's contracts should have been considred dead the moment they hit the Metlife field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 It's in the genes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 the Jets give stupid contacts to bad players tell me something I didn't know before.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: All of our most expensive injured guys were terrible anyway. Thanks MacIdzik! still the money a player gets should be a good indication of talent level. obviously there are slugs like wilky, hainsworth, trumaine but there are also guys like mosely who want to be on the field and play well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, bla bla bla said: I saw a Sports Illustrated article about how the Jets have a lot of money on IR so I decided to graph out all the teams in the NFL. I included the PUP and NFI list as well however I did not include Dead Cap which would swing the graph slightly, especially with the Colts and Dolphins. Thought you guys may enjoy it, not sure if it tells us anything though. edit - Numbers provided by OverTheCap.com hmmm...of the bottom 5 only the jets didn't lose a qb to ir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: That figure doesn’t include CJ Mosley who isn’t on IR but should be. CJ Measly has to be the worst FA signing in a while based on production vs cost. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Here is what that same graph would look like when you remove Alex Smith, Cam Newton, Big Ben and Add CJ Mosley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Here is what that same graph would look like when you remove Alex Smith, Cam Newton, Big Ben and Add CJ Mosley. Holy kryptonite...... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 We’re #1! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: We’re #1! Something to hang our hat on haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Finally we have won something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: Please provide your better graph. You don't have to be a double major in botany and automotive engineering to see a car stuck in a tree and go "that ain't right". It's ridiculous to demand that a retort to a public post has to equal the OP in effort or time invested. Otherwise you could make absolutely ridiculous claims with charts and graphs and stick figure drawings and be immune to criticism if the respondents don't do the same. Please ensure your response to this is equally as rambly if you don't want to automatically concede the convoluted point I'm making. Tl;dr....."Please provide your better detailed point rather than just posting a lame one line quip". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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