oatmeal Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, johnnysd said: can't wait for this to be over. If the Jets offer anything close to that compensation they are as big of a group of idiots as they were under Macloser I agree but imo it wouldn’t be worst than running it back with Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyJet Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, neckdemon said: 3 1's and quinnen williams is a joke and i hope douglas doesnt do something like that agreed. If you're already a good team (like the Dolphins) and can afford to go all in then it makes sense to mortgage the future. But not for the Jets, this would put us so far back with so many holes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Deshaun Watson and Josh Allen dominate the AFC East for the next 10 years. neckdemon: Well at least we have Quinnen Williams!! if we give away 3 1sts and williams (who is worth more than 1st by himself) then deshaun watson will do, at best, what he just did on the texans.....lead us to 4 wins 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, neckdemon said: 3 1's and quinnen williams is a joke and i hope douglas doesnt do something like that There's no team that can offer anything that would force the Jets to offer that. #2 is the only way they get a top 3 QB. #2, #34, '22 1st, '23 1st. Take on the Mercilus contract if you have to. Essentially 4 1st round picks and pay for most of Watson's cap hit by taking on Mercilus, who can be cut the following year. The only way the Texans get a better offer than that is if they think they can build around Tua. I don't buy it. The Jets still have 5 of the top 100 picks after trading Darnold for a 2nd round pick, and a pick in every round of the '22 draft. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, chad2coles said: There's no team that can offer anything that would force the Jets offer that. #2 is the only way they get a top 3 QB. #2, #34, '22 1st, '23 1st. Take on the Mercilus contract if you have to. Essentially 4 1st round picks and pay for most of Watson's cap hit by taking on Mercilus, who can be cut the following year. The only way the Texans get a better offer than that is if they think they can build around Tua. I don't buy it. The Jets still have 5 of the top 100 picks after trading Darnold for a 2nd round pick, and a pick in every round of the '22 draft. i would do this trade. this spreads out the first that we have to give up and we still have a first in every year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan23 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, chad2coles said: There's no team that can offer anything that would force the Jets offer that. #2 is the only way they get a top 3 QB. #2, #34, '22 1st, '23 1st. Take on the Mercilus contract if you have to. Essentially 4 1st round picks and pay for most of Watson's cap hit by taking on Mercilus, who can be cut the following year. The only way the Texans get a better offer than that is if they think they can build around Tua. I don't buy it. The Jets still have 5 of the top 100 picks after trading Darnold for a 2nd round pick, and a pick in every round of the '22 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, undertow said: Nothing would surprise me after the Lions decided it was a good idea to rebuild around Jared Goff. Goff was at least a 2X Pro Bowler and is still young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan23 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Jets gave up a 4th rounder in 22 draft in the Jamal Adam's deal. I say #2, 3rd round this year, Seattle 1st next year and 2nd round next year, take it or leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said: And QW > Two #1 picks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MykePM Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Yeah, I'm guessing they really want Wilson to replace Watson and therefore will need to deal with the jets. I think the Jets will ultimately be able to pull off a more reasonable deal than some on here think is possible....... Assuming they want Watson over Wilson(factoring in salary and comp) The news yesterday was that the Jets were waiting until the pro days of Wilson, Fields, etc., before making a QB decision. Maybe Houston is dragging their heels at this point for the same reason. Just as Joe D and crew are evaluating Darnold vs. Wilson vs. Fields, the Texans may be trying to figure out the best choice for their post-Watson QB, and are waiting to spend more time with The young QBs before making the call. Until then, saying that they’re not trading Watson is in their best interest, as it allows the bidding war between interested teams to progress and holds open the (reportedly minuscule) possibility that Deshaun cools down and decides to talk to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, neckdemon said: if we give away 3 1sts and williams (who is worth more than 1st by himself) then deshaun watson will do, at best, what he just did on the texans.....lead us to 4 wins So we'd go 4-12 for the next 10 years? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, oatmeal said: I agree but imo it wouldn’t be worst than running it back with Darnold. It might. We might be better with Morgan or White starting and all our draft picks intact. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 As I said already, our #2, #48, and Sam Darnold. That's an offer no other team can offer. If that doesn't get it done, then we go all in with Sammy and trade down out of #2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, NYJ1 said: As I said already, our #2, #48, and Sam Darnold. That's an offer no other team can offer. If that doesn't get it done, then we go all in with Sammy and trade down out of #2. But don't you agree that the Jets would improve their team by offering more than that for Watson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: So we'd go 4-12 for the next 10 years? no we would go in the 4-12 range for a couple years and then watson would want out, douglas and saleh would be fired and the sh*tshow circus would continue 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Max I offer is 2 & 86. I don't think that Miami is going to be in the hunt. Everything I'm seeing down here is they are happy with Tua. Of course that could change for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, neckdemon said: no we would go in the 4-12 range for a couple years and then watson would want out, douglas and saleh would be fired and the sh*tshow circus would continue That's an awful lot of catastrophizing going on here. @TeddEY want to jump in on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TampaJet Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 Is Watson good? Yes.... But is he 3 first rounders and Q Williams better than Darnold? While it would be great to have a top 5 QB, you cant handicap your roster for the next 3-5 years to do it. As important as the QB position is, you still have to have a strong 53 to compete. Mahomes wouldnt be Mahomes on the Jets roster....he would be similar to the Mahomes we saw in the SB, but much worse. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Now who were the guys that were saying Watson would never want to come here? Come on... raise your little hands. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: As I said already, our #2, #48, and Sam Darnold. That's an offer no other team can offer. If that doesn't get it done, then we go all in with Sammy and trade down out of #2. I pray there are 2 teams dying to trade up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot K Tailgaters Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Would be great to have Watson here but only if the price is right. This team has a lot of holes. We need to build through the draft and not free agency. Give up the two first rounders from Seattle and maybe throw in a mid round pick. Otherwise it’s not worth it at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Sounds like no one is offering the Texans much and they’re getting desperate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I'm so sick of this shyt....fug it, I dont want him anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lot K Tailgaters said: Would be great to have Watson here but only if the price is right. This team has a lot of holes. We need to build through the draft and not free agency. Give up the two first rounders from Seattle and maybe throw in a mid round pick. Otherwise it’s not worth it at all. well there's no way you are getting watson and keeping the #2 pick. and to be fair, 2 late firsts are not enough to pay...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 If they take the #3 package from MIA and call to move up to #2, they have to know that it will cost them almost everything they got for Watson. Just because. If they're happy to stay at #3 and take whichever QB falls to them, then so be it. But I assume MIA would have to blow the doors off our offer to make that happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: So we'd go 4-12 for the next 10 years? Not with Watson if he wasn't happy he would want to be traded.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: Man, this is gonna be bad if he goes to Miami. So bad. They're a materially better team, with more asset firepower to make the trade. Anyone expecting the Jets to win out vs. the Phins if both are equally dedicated to getting him, lol. Don't be silly. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, TampaJet said: Is Watson good? Yes.... But is he 3 first rounders and Q Williams better than Darnold? While it would be great to have a top 5 QB, you cant handicap your roster for the next 3-5 years to do it. As important as the QB position is, you still have to have a strong 53 to compete. Mahomes wouldnt be Mahomes on the Jets roster....he would be similar to the Mahomes we saw in the SB, but much worse. Yes, because an elite, young, franchise QB is basically priceless. Luckily, it won't take that much to get Watson anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, chad2coles said: But don't you agree that the Jets would improve their team by offering more than that for Watson? No, actually I wouldn't agree. The Jets have holes everywhere. The only thing this team has going for it is their draft capital and two decent (not great as of this moment) players to build around. Giving up anything more than what I mentioned cripples the team's ability to build the roster in a sufficient timeframe. By the time you get your roster up to snuff Deshaun Watson had lost patience with the Jets pathetic loser mentality and has asked to once.... Be TRADED..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: They're a materially better team, with more asset firepower to make the trade. Anyone expecting the Jets to win out vs. the Phins if both are equally dedicated to getting him, lol. Don't be silly. The #2 pick is worth a lot more than the #3 when you consider that Justin Wilson has the same agent as Watson. What is the Dolphins offer that the Jets can't match? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: They're a materially better team, with more asset firepower to make the trade. Anyone expecting the Jets to win out vs. the Phins if both are equally dedicated to getting him, lol. Don't be silly. They do? Pretty sure the Jets clearly have more to offer. # 2 > # 3, plus the Jets are owners of more 1st round picks and more picks overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes, because an elite, young, franchise QB is basically priceless. Luckily, it won't take that much to get Watson anyways. HELL NO HE ISN'T!!!! and I love the player....but I might have to put a pound of ex-lax in JD'S cereal if he tries that ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, jetspenguin said: HELL NO HE ISN'T!!!! and I love the player....but I might have to put a pound of ex-lax in JD'S cereal if he tries that ish. SO MUCH SHOUTING 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, NYJ1 said: No, actually I wouldn't agree. The Jets have holes everywhere. The only thing this team has going for it is their draft capital and two decent (not great as of this moment) players to build around. Giving up anything more than what I mentioned cripples the team's ability to build the roster in a sufficient timeframe. By the time you get your roster up to snuff Deshaun Watson had lost patience with the Jets pathetic loser mentality and has asked to once.... Be TRADED..... So, by this thought process, if Douglas wasn't able to get 2 1st round picks for Jamal Adams, there's no way the Jets could ever field a contender, right? Also, where are the Jets getting the 48th pick in the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 If seems like this is down to the Jets and Panthers. Can the Dolphins even afford him? I read something the other day that a few guys on their roster hit their bonuses - their cap is down a few million now and when you take out the rookie money, they're in the mid-teens in terms of cap space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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