Gramsci Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Aaron Hernandez said: I've seen criticism of him being listed as racist. Like with ESPN. I actually just don't like the tape. I was trying to be sensitive and avoid that but I'm an idiot unintentionally and shoot myself in the foot like 6 times a day. Like I said, I'm willing to eat crow if he turns out to be a stud. I have nothing against him beyond us picking at #2 I don't even think it was racism, it was only Dan Orlovsky being a terrible person and showing his true face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gramsci said: ADHD is not austism I am aware. I'm simply suggesting that in part due to a biological phenomenon he may be exceptional at a given task. Rain Man is an example even if the root cause is different. That of course is assuming his ADHD isn't misdiagnosed as it often is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 13 hours ago, k-met57 said: JT O has Wilson as QB2 in this draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 12 hours ago, The Crusher said: Man I loved me some Warren Moon growing up. Threw the most beautiful ball of all time IMO. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 12 hours ago, FidelioJet said: Or Tom Brady for that matter Or Trevor Lawrence, who's literally lighter yet taller than Wilson (what does that say about his "frame") Or the fact that Fields is a running QB which makes him far more likely to be injured The size argument went out the window, when he came in at Aaron Rodgers specs - making him middle of the pack size.. So we moved to a nonsense term like "frame" to stick with the same dumb narrative. Don't like his game, that's fine but stop with the size stupidity. Fields doesn’t even run as much as he should given his athleticism and speed. It’s blatantly obvious in his game that he’s conscious of being labeled a “running QB”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Hernandez Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, The Crusher said: Ok Aaron, appreciate the explanation. Please don’t kill me. I make no promises. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 9:11 AM, The Crusher said: Man I loved me some Warren Moon growing up. Had to go to my CFL (Edmonton Eskimos) for 5 years (and 5 grey cups) before the NFL wizened up and brought him back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Fields is not the answer and neither is wilson they both suckSent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 21 hours ago, kmnj said: If Joe's guy busts out Joe is toast-his future is tied to "his " qb-there are no more built in excuses for Joe now-his coach and it will be his QB and his roster. No he's not If JDs drafts, FAs suck and the team doesnt improve enough hes toast. The idea that its all on the QB pick isn't a given 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Beerfish said: Had to go to my CFL (Edmonton Eskimos) for 5 years (and 5 grey cups) before the NFL wizened up and broguth him back. Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 22 hours ago, cookiemonsta911 said: I would take fields number 1. Well, there you go 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Fields is not Russell Wilson not even close. That said he’s still a better prospect than Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Threw the most beautiful ball of all time IMO.Moon was basically a 180 from FieldsSent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Fields is not Russell Wilson not even close. That said he’s still a better prospect than WilsonPhil.... I like your conviction man... and I just want to say ... It is perfectly ok to be wrong man.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Fields doesn’t even run as much as he should given his athleticism and speed. It’s blatantly obvious in his game that he’s conscious of being labeled a “running QB”. Because that is his best trait. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 45 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: No he's not If JDs drafts, FAs suck and the team doesnt improve enough hes toast. The idea that its all on the QB pick isn't a given If Wilson isn’t at least very good Woody will be handpicking the next GM and Head Coach in 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 According to Joe Douglas, through Albert Breer, Jets held off on trading Darnold because there were only 2 QB's in the draft they were willing to move off him for. I don't understand why they value Zach Wilson so much more than Fields but there is irrefutable proof that they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: According to Joe Douglas, through Albert Breer, Jets held off on trading Darnold because there were only 2 QB's in the draft they were willing to move off him for. I don't understand why they value Zach Wilson so much more than Fields Because JD like our previous 3 GMs wouldn’t know a good qb if one tripped over him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Because JD like our previous 3 GMs wouldn’t know a good qb if one tripped over him So Mac, the previous GM, drafted Darnold, a bad QB, who you wanted to keep? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, Tranquilo said: So Mac, the previous GM, drafted Darnold, a bad QB, who you wanted to keep? A broken clock is right twice a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Fields is just another Ohio State bust waiting to happen. OSU is a great college program, but their teams are always so stacked vs very weak B1G competition. Players like this tend to bust because they were misevaluated vs inferior competition. Just look at all the Alabama and OSU players the Jets have selected that busted in recent drafts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: If Wilson isn’t at least very good Woody will be handpicking the next GM and Head Coach in 2 years Eagles moved up, traded a boatload of picks for Wentz and GM is still there Rams used a ton of picks, moved up for Goff, GM is still in place AZ used pucks to move up and pick Rosen, GM is still there The Bears traded a ton of picks, moved up, passed on Watson & Mahomes, drafted Trubiski and is still there Show that you can do the job and missing on a QB most have rated at least #2 in the draft and he busts and you’re still working. Most QBs bust, happens. Why would you fire Saleh if he shows he can coach but his QB isn’t at least very good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Gramsci said: Weirdly enough he ranks second in Qb rating under pressure. But you obviously have seen something that others haven't. This is not true. Of the four top QB prospects (Lance didn't play in 2020) he is dead last in QBR under pressure, dead last in QBR vs the blitz and is the only QB who holds onto the ball longer when blitzed. https://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/draft2021/insider/story/_/id/31113560/2021-nfl-draft-qb-class-do-stats-match-tape-trevor-lawrence-justin-fields-zach-wilson-others He is an absolute catastrophe of a prospect who is going to fold over like a cheap suitcase against NFL blitz schemes. He cannot process the field before the snap (like our man Sam) and he cannot improvise like Wilson after the snap. He will be destroyed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 4 hours ago, bealeb319 said: Fields is not the answer and neither is wilson they both suck Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Trade for Jimmy G and try to do the unsexy thing like use the #2 pick to build the offensive line or get Pitts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Eagles moved up, traded a boatload of picks for Wentz and GM is still there Rams used a ton of picks, moved up for Goff, GM is still in place AZ used pucks to move up and pick Rosen, GM is still there The Bears traded a ton of picks, moved up, passed on Watson & Mahomes, drafted Trubiski and is still there Show that you can do the job and missing on a QB most have rated at least #2 in the draft and he busts and you’re still working. Most QBs bust, happens. Why would you fire Saleh if he shows he can coach but his QB isn’t at least very good? Wentz > Wilson and Fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Wentz > Wilson and Fields Yeah, you know this today Sometime you have to stop being a troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 11:32 AM, Savage69 said: How many OSU QB's have won a Bowl?? BYU has 2 and counting.. You can say that about USC also.. Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State are the elite programs of college football, but none of those three schools is king of producing quarterbacks who find success on the NFL's biggest stage: the Super Bowl. BYU QBs from 30 or 40 years ago are irrelevant, that has nothing to do with the success of anyone in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 11 hours ago, SpartanJet said: Fields is just another Ohio State bust waiting to happen. OSU is a great college program, but their teams are always so stacked vs very weak B1G competition. Players like this tend to bust because they were misevaluated vs inferior competition. Just look at all the Alabama and OSU players the Jets have selected that busted in recent drafts. Like the Ghost and Dee Milliner?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 9:55 AM, FidelioJet said: Literally, this is actually mind boggling to me. After what we've been through - there's still a good portion of this board advocating taking a CB or Edge with #23. It's insane. As far as I'm concerned Day 1 and Day 2 should be entirely offense... Have at it with defense after that... Every draft is the same thing. Vocal group of posters that insist we upgrade every element of the defense with our top picks before even thinking of offense. They would be happy pick Zach and not taking OL until the 6th if we drafted a bunch of QBs and EDGE. I have to believe JD will not make this mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetsrule1969 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Fields isn't even as good as Jones. Head to head in the National Championship game Jones destroyed him. Fields (17/33 194 Yds 1 TD) looked lost and confused while Jones (36/45 464 Yds and 5 TD passes) was in complete control minus the fumble. No-one predicted that this type of disparity in stats would have occurred. And this is why Jones and not Fields will be the 3rd QB off the board. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsrule1969 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Fields isn't even as good as Jones. Head to head in the National Championship game Jones destroyed him. Fields (17/33 194 Yds 1 TD) looked lost and confused while Jones (36/45 464 Yds and 5 TD passes) was in complete control minus the fumble. No-one predicted that this type of disparity in stats would have occurred. And this is why Jones and not Fields will be the 3rd QB off the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 5 hours ago, johnnysd said: Every draft is the same thing. Vocal group of posters that insist we upgrade every element of the defense with our top picks before even thinking of offense. They would be happy pick Zach and not taking OL until the 6th if we drafted a bunch of QBs and EDGE. I have to believe JD will not make this mistake I missed the part where anyone said any of this ever, let alone a group of posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoJetsFan Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 9:08 PM, Beerfish said: Had to go to my CFL (Edmonton Eskimos) for 5 years (and 5 grey cups) before the NFL wizened up and brought him back. Edmonton Eskimos great name, but guessing they had to change their name lol Edit: yup...Edmonton Football Team now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Fields SUCKS! and I'm sure Joe Douglas probably feels the same way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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