Shelbyblue Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Give him a contract early before he knows how good he is. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Huff can bend and he's explosive. Good combination. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Copernicus said: John Franklin Meyers and Bryce Huff both undrafted FA signings by Joe Douglas? THought he could evaluate talent? Franklin-Myers is not an UDFA. He was a waiver pickup. How we got him has more in common with Quincy WIllaims than Huff. He was the Rams 4th rounder in 2018 and he had a strip sack of Brady in the Super Bowl. They waived him in final cuts in 2019 and Douglas picked him up. He spent 2019 on the IR. He may end up in line for a pay day. overthecap has him as an UFA in 2022, but I was not sure that he got an accrued season in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Resign Fatukasi and JFM. The former is a team leader and the latter will be a bookend with Lawson/Huff for years to come. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Copernicus said: John Franklin Meyers and Bryce Huff both undrafted FA signings by Joe Douglas? THought he could evaluate talent? He also signed GVR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 1:54 PM, Copernicus said: John Franklin Meyers and Bryce Huff both undrafted FA signings by Joe Douglas? THought he could evaluate talent? He hit big on both so I guess we can excuse his swing and miss (at least so far) on Zuniga in the 2020 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 6:21 PM, ElBarrioJets said: Resign Fatukasi and JFM. “In breaking news, Jets fans switch their resignation demands from the GM and OC to the D-line …..” 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 10:54 AM, Copernicus said: John Franklin Meyers and Bryce Huff both undrafted FA signings by Joe Douglas? THought he could evaluate talent? Maybe he just needs to stop drafting Zuniga types and keep signing FA's! ? In all seriousness, roster building is basically portfolio theory at work.... if you hit on two guys for every one that you miss you're in great shape, just like the stock market. I don't care where they're coming from, just that the Jets keep finding them. The mid/late round defenders from this year look promising as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdfodder Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Bryce Huff out of Mobile Alabama, St. Paul's Episcopal School on Old Shell Road, BITCHES!Is there a player on the defense who isn’t associated with Alabama?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 1:31 PM, Sarge4Tide said: Bryce Huff out of Mobile Alabama, St. Paul's Episcopal School on Old Shell Road, BITCHES! That is the most southern high school name I’ve ever heard. Are you sure that’s not the name of the school in Remember the Titans? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 1:31 PM, Sarge4Tide said: Bryce Huff out of Mobile Alabama, St. Paul's Episcopal School on Old Shell Road, BITCHES! I’m dumb. Double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: That is the most southern high school name I’ve ever heard. Are you sure that’s not the name of the school in Remember the Titans? That was T.C. Williams in Alexandria, VA. I lived a couple of miles away for a few years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownJet Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Good for him. The One Jets Drive episode he was featured in, he said he was always overlooked because of his size and Wasn’t highly recruited to play college ball. Now he’s developing into a darn good pass rusher in the NFL. His speed and bend is impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Imagine if Carl Lawson was playing ??? No joke tho. Bryce Huff might be my favorite defensive player on our team. I’m rooting so hard for this guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 1:54 PM, Copernicus said: John Franklin Meyers and Bryce Huff both undrafted FA signings by Joe Douglas? THought he could evaluate talent? JFM played in the super bowl and recorded a sack before joining the Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 2:05 PM, PS17 said: He needs to extend JFM ASAP. price of the brick goin up. JFM and Foley are both Free Agents and while all of us would love for JD to sign extend them now, there is ZERO reason why either of them would not test free agency. We can post all we want about scheme fit, etc but what if JFM goes into free agency with a 9-10 sack season at 26 years old? He will get Carl Lawson money. I hope we can bring these guys back, even if it means we draft a different position in round 1 next year, but no young DL is taking any sort of hometown discount, its too hard to find pass rushers. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 2:06 PM, Sonny Werblin said: #85 had no interest in blocking Huff and Huff had no interest in diverting #85 from his pass pattern. I do not know what #85's excuse was but I am starting to come away with the impression that Saleh's D linemen have one, and only one, responsibility on pass plays. And that is to get to the QB as fast as possible. Nothing else matters. I've got to say, it does seem to be effective. Yup that is their one responsibility.....its how that Seattle cover 3 is built which is the foundation of this defense Saleh mixes in blitzes effectively as well unlike Pete in Seattle but it is nice to finally get pressure with 4 instead of sending the house and getting gashed on throws 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 6:35 PM, More Cowbell said: He also signed GVR And? If your hoping for 100% success signing other teams players youre watching the wrong sport. The list of losers vs winners picked by JD sure changed in a week. If your signing FAs and their successful at a 2-1 clip just be happy and curb the negative posts. Its like a broken record. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And? If your hoping for 100% success signing other teams signings your watching the wrong sport. The lit of losers vs winners picked by JD sure changed in a week. If your signing FAs and their successful at a 2-1 clip just be happy and curb the negative posts. Its like a broken record. Agreed. And the only bad free agent signing is a big contract player that fails to perform. The low dollar 1 to 2 year contract players are like scratch off lottery tickets. If you hit on a few, you are way ahead of the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: Agreed. And the only bad free agent signing is a big contract player that fails to perform. The low dollar 1 to 2 year contract players are like scratch off lottery tickets. If you hit on a few, you are way ahead of the game. By definition you just go out and replace those that dont work out and try again. Its a great formula, never mind all the signings should be trying hard given they're in a contract year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, BCJet said: JFM and Foley are both Free Agents and while all of us would love for JD to sign extend them now, there is ZERO reason why either of them would not test free agency. We can post all we want about scheme fit, etc but what if JFM goes into free agency with a 9-10 sack season at 26 years old? He will get Carl Lawson money. I hope we can bring these guys back, even if it means we draft a different position in round 1 next year, but no young DL is taking any sort of hometown discount, its too hard to find pass rushers. That's fair enough for JFM, as it seems absolutely no one foresaw what we're getting out of him this year, and he could be setting himself up for a huge payday. Foley on the other hand should have been taken care of prior to this season, as he'd already proven himself well enough, and with contract time left, it gave the Jets leverage. JD has to prove he has the ability to retain talent, which is something he has yet to show a hint of. Now granted, the team has been mostly devoid of talent, but he's yet to hit on any of his attempts so far. That becomes a much bigger deal this offseason, so will be interesting to see what comes of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And? If your hoping for 100% success signing other teams signings your watching the wrong sport. The lit of losers vs winners picked by JD sure changed in a week. If your signing FAs and their successful at a 2-1 clip just be happy and curb the negative posts. Its like a broken record. Look, if I want to put up a negative post about JD, I will. One game does not make him GM of the year. He has made a ton of bad moves. GVR, McGovern, if Becton can't stay healthy, taking him over Wirfs was a mega bad move, Mims, the kickers before Amendola, that C he brought out of retirement who was worse than the guy he replaced, not signing any WR's last year forcing us to start Hogan and Barrios as 1 and 2 for like 6 weeks, Jabari, Ashtyn Davis, Morgan all look like bad picks. I can go on. He has also done good things. Zack looks like he can workout if we can protect him. Really funny how everyone is running to defend him for the same thing we killed Darnold over, that Darnold needed perfect conditions to do well. Getting the deal he did for Adams was great. AVT is starting to round out. Has done a good job on the D with players up front and some of the DB's look promising. I am not asking him to be perfect, but the 2020 draft might be a wipeout if Becton doesn't start to play like a franchise lineman. Even Moore looks questionable but being an undersized WR, it might take longer for him to get it together. That said if I want to critique him on his mistakes, I will. You want to blow rainbows and sunshine up everyones butt, that is fine. I never have critiqued anyone for being positive. So far Sunday is an oasis in a sea of ?. We have one win that easily could have been a tie because Zack couldn't complete a gimme pass to Davis when it counted. I haven't said it here but that was a classic choke. He makes that pass and it is over right there. If he is a FQB, he makes that throw 99 times out of 100. Sorry, I need to see more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Really funny how everyone is running to defend him for the same thing we killed Darnold over, that Darnold needed perfect conditions Doesn't look like Wilson needs perfect conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: We have one win that easily could have been a tie because Zack couldn't complete a gimme pass to Davis when it counted. I haven't said it here but that was a classic choke. He makes that pass and it is over right there. If he is a FQB, he makes that throw 99 times out of 100. Sorry, I need to see more ZacH Wilson is the entire reason they were in position to tie or win. Cut it out. It's his 4th game, not his fourth season like it is for Darnold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Doesn't look like Wilson needs perfect conditions He got protection for the first time last Sunday and looked good. How did he look when he was running away from pass rushers the entire first 3 games? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 6:35 PM, More Cowbell said: He also signed GVR Yeah but Defenswinschampionships, so I’m told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Look, if I want to put up a negative post about JD, I will. One game does not make him GM of the year. He has made a ton of bad moves. GVR, McGovern, if Becton can't stay healthy, taking him over Wirfs was a mega bad move, Mims, the kickers before Amendola, that C he brought out of retirement who was worse than the guy he replaced, not signing any WR's last year forcing us to start Hogan and Barrios as 1 and 2 for like 6 weeks, Jabari, Ashtyn Davis, Morgan all look like bad picks. I can go on. He has also done good things. Zack looks like he can workout if we can protect him. Really funny how everyone is running to defend him for the same thing we killed Darnold over, that Darnold needed perfect conditions to do well. Getting the deal he did for Adams was great. AVT is starting to round out. Has done a good job on the D with players up front and some of the DB's look promising. I am not asking him to be perfect, but the 2020 draft might be a wipeout if Becton doesn't start to play like a franchise lineman. Even Moore looks questionable but being an undersized WR, it might take longer for him to get it together. That said if I want to critique him on his mistakes, I will. You want to blow rainbows and sunshine up everyones butt, that is fine. I never have critiqued anyone for being positive. So far Sunday is an oasis in a sea of ?. We have one win that easily could have been a tie because Zack couldn't complete a gimme pass to Davis when it counted. I haven't said it here but that was a classic choke. He makes that pass and it is over right there. If he is a FQB, he makes that throw 99 times out of 100. Sorry, I need to see more He hasnt made a ton of bad moves. GMs miss, it happens. One internet GM last week wanted to prove how bad JD is by listing 6th WRs, 4th QBs etc who didnt contribute. Here's a eye opening thought, he couldnt fill every hole in a team like the Jets who had too many to fill in one or two off seasons. People just dont seem to understand that and will harp on the misses until readers want to slit their wrists. Has nothing to do with a one game win streak, it has everything to do with expectations and patience in a regime. Or to recognize that every successful NFL franchise has continuity, not an ever changing carousel of GMs, HCs etc. Pitt, Seattle, NE, KC, Ravens, look around, So far he seems to have a plan but most importantly the conviction the see it through to its conclusion. Fans dont. They post all off season that its not about wins and losses and after 3 whole games had their pitchforks out talking about perceived problems in Jets land 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: He got protection for the first time last Sunday and looked good. How did he look when he was running away from pass rushers the entire first 3 games? He was rolling out and made his biggest pass plays on the run Sunday. He showed escapability. We claim all we want to see is improvement and then complain when we see improvement and claim that its not really improvement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: ZacH Wilson is the entire reason they were in position to tie or win. Cut it out. It's his 4th game, not his fourth season like it is for Darnold. It is great that he threw two bombs for big plays but that was a pass he should have made. It wasn't even close. It was an easy pass to complete. No pressure on Zack so to speak and Davis clearly beat his man out of the cut. I'm not totally down on Zack. It los line he can be very good but so far from what I have seen, his short game needs work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I like Huff. He showed something last year and looks better now. OTOH, I think the board is overrating him. He seems more like Jamal Westerman or Maybin. He has a motor and is getting after the QB, but he seems more undersized DE than LB. He is a rotational guy and does not seem like he will be an every down player on this D. Maybe he can be more, but I think fans tend to overrate smaller quicker guys with motors. Still a very nice find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: He hasnt made a ton of bad moves. GMs miss, happens. One internet GM last week wanted to prove how bad JD is by listing 6th WRs, 4th QBs etc who didnt contribute. Here's a eye opening thought, he couldnt fill every hole in a team like the Jets who had too many to fill in one or two off seasons. People just dont seem to understand that and will harp on the misses until readers want to slit their wrists. Has nothing to do with a one game win streak, it has everything to do with expectations and patience in a regime. Or to recognize that every successful NFL franchise has continuity, not an ever changing carousel of GMs, HCs etc. Pitt, Seattle, NE, KC, look around, So far he seems to have a plan but most importantly the conviction the see it through to its conclusion. Fans dont. They post all off season that its not about wins and losses and after 3 whole games had their pitchforks out talking about perceived problems in Jets land Fine, you want to accept the good and ignore his mistakes, that is fine. Like I said, I have never seriously critiqued anyone for being positive but what I just posted is not opinion, they are facts. JD has been poor at drafting. There is no denying this. Look at last seasons draft and tell me you feel good about anyone in the first 4 rounds. Anyone after that is basically a dart throw. Nobody leaves a guy that can start on the board for 5 rounds when his first 4 rounds look as bad as 2020 did for Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 2:18 PM, Joe W. Namath said: Another Joe Douglas find. We are so fortunate we have Joe Douglas running this team. Wow, you guys act like it's news when GM finds a player off the waiver wire. Act like you've seen it before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Yeah but Defenswinschampionships, so I’m told. I should ban you for that, but I'm feeling ornery so I ate the last of the bacon in the mod lounge instead. *burp* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I am not asking him to be perfect, but the 2020 draft might be a wipeout if Becton doesn't start to play like a franchise lineman Lets see, Becton, a starter will pro bowl potential. Who certainly played like a franchise lineman last season Mims, not contributing but the team sure shows patience with him, we'll see, doesnt look promising but if you can find posts where you questioned his talent and selection you'd have a point agains him Ashton Davis, healthy and starting. Admittedly needs to stay healthy Zuninga a waste but worth the risk to JD, eh Perine, will play when healthy Bryce Hall has been a stud this year Mann Wipeout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: JD has been poor at drafting. There is no denying this. YOu can draft the Pope to lead mass but if the church is burning nobody gets saved. He's drafted talent. There's no doubt about that either. Just because a player doesn't work out in a particular system doesn't mean it was a poor draft choice. I really like the talent on this team. To say that he's drafted poorly seems kinda crazy. And of course, negative, Anti-JetNation. His head coach is STARTING THE MOST ROOKIES IN THE NFL and you're saying he's drafting poorly?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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