T0mShane Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Yea i don’t see him having any legal trouble at this point. His issues going forward will likely be image/PR related 22 of the women signed onto Buzbee’s representation and that scumbag has been trying to get Watson to settle from Day One. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Hex said: I don't know why Watson would want to go to another dumpster fire, but ok Yea, I’m desperate to go from one bottom 5 roster to another so that I can be rewarded by the NY media asking me about sexual harassment every 5 minutes. great plan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Belli coaching tree: McDaniel 11-17 (Drafted Tebow in the 1st round) Petricia 13-29-1 Flores 24-25 Judge 10-23 O'Brien 52-48 (Brought in all sorts of awful qbs and traded DeAndre Hopkins for a nickel) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Belli coaching tree: McDaniel 11-17 (Drafted Tebow in the 1st round) Petricia 13-29-1 Flores 24-25 Judge 10-23 O'Brien 52-48 (Brought in all sorts of awful qbs and traded DeAndre Hopkins for a nickel) Arrogant assholes all. It's their signature trademark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 41 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Belli coaching tree: McDaniel 11-17 (Drafted Tebow in the 1st round) Petricia 13-29-1 Flores 24-25 Judge 10-23 O'Brien 52-48 (Brought in all sorts of awful qbs and traded DeAndre Hopkins for a nickel) It’s funny everyone thinks they are getting Belli. They are cheap imitations. Poseurs as it were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 It looks like they’re going to hire a GM first. Mara admitted they didn’t do a good job hiring coaches in last few years. So you’d hope if you’re a Giants fan (and we’re not) they’d hire the GM first and let them hire the coach. As for Watson in New York I don’t see it in terms of PR value in the leagues biggest market. You don’t acquire a guy with that kind of baggage and accusations against him. In terms of league income a good percentage are from female fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 50 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Belli coaching tree: McDaniel 11-17 (Drafted Tebow in the 1st round) Petricia 13-29-1 Flores 24-25 Judge 10-23 O'Brien 52-48 (Brought in all sorts of awful qbs and traded DeAndre Hopkins for a nickel) And yet nobody thought that maybe Belichick teaches these people how to fail and make it look like his success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Watson to the WFT in 3.2.1 Snyder's New Motto would be "Hey, at least we're not the Redskins anymore" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: As for Watson in New York I don’t see it in terms of PR value in the leagues biggest market. You don’t acquire a guy with that kind of baggage and accusations against him. The Giants’ most revered player was last in the news for beating up a 14 year old prostitute in a crack den. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Snyder's New Motto would be "Hey, at least we're not the Redskins anymore" He would be the perfect face of that franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Greenseed4 said: Houston could have THREE picks in the top-10 of a crap draft, lol. Well, I think the BS that this is a bad draft are frankly wrong. It's a defensively oriented draft and there are no franchise guaranteed QB's, but Pickett looked pretty good to me. It's about matching what a team needs to the strengths of a draft. The Jets need defense, so they are going to do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: For as big of a clown show as the Giants have become, adding an accused serial sexual assailant to be the face of the franchise doesn't seem like the kind of things the Mara's will do to turn things around. This is pretty clearly Watson and/or his agent trying to gin up interest in a player I would guess has very little interest around the league right now. If the charges are dropped or he is acquitted, then I could see a flurry of teams jumping in to get him. The Giants also have never had a black QB1. They’re a very conservative org, historically. It would be tough to see this happen unless they’re super confident all of this stuff will get swept away with minimal consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, RoadFan said: Do they have cap space for Watson? I thought they have nothing… Cap space doesn’t seem to matter much in the NFL. In 2022 the Saints, for instance, are projected be $60M+ over the cap for their 2nd straight season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, JetsFanatic said: I’d rather have Zach and Saleh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Giants also have never had a black QB1. They’re a very conservative org, historically. It would be tough to see this happen unless they’re super confident all of this stuff will get swept away with minimal consequences. They've also never had a black head coach.... Somehow no one calls them out for it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Belli coaching tree: McDaniel 11-17 (Drafted Tebow in the 1st round) Petricia 13-29-1 Flores 24-25 Judge 10-23 O'Brien 52-48 (Brought in all sorts of awful qbs and traded DeAndre Hopkins for a nickel) Funny that Mumbles has two trees, this isn't even counting his original failures in Weis, Crennel, Mangini 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: We will see. However, I’m optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Cap space doesn’t seem to matter much in the NFL. In 2022 the Saints, for instance, are projected be $60M+ over the cap for their 2nd straight season. The saints are PROJECTED to be 60 million over the cap next year which means they will have to cut players (or rework deals) to get under the cap. They aren't just going to be allowed to sign their draft picks and new free agents while being 60 million over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: They've also never had a black head coach.... Somehow no one calls them out for it Louis Riddick interviewed for the GM job that went to Gettleman and was supposedly a “finalist” fwiw. Giants could hit a trifecta by hiring Riddick and Flores, then trading for Watson. If they were so inclined, that is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: The saints are PROJECTED to be 60 million over the cap next year which means they will have to cut players (or rework deals) to get under the cap. They aren't just going to be allowed to sign their draft picks and new free agents while being 60 million over. Why he saints handed taysom hill the kinda dough they have is beyond bizarre to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Snell41 said: Zero chance. No team is shelling the picks that HOU wants, and HOU won’t deal him for less. The best solution for Watson and HOU is to reconcile and start over with Flores. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app That ship has sailed long ago. Zero chance of that happening and that is from two people covering the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Flores has already interviewed for the Bears job. And they currently do not have a GM since they just fired Pace. So if they hire Flores before the select a GM they’re hiring a guy who was just fighting with the Fins GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 40 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: Well, I think the BS that this is a bad draft are frankly wrong. It's a defensively oriented draft and there are no franchise guaranteed QB's, but Pickett looked pretty good to me. It's about matching what a team needs to the strengths of a draft. The Jets need defense, so they are going to do well. I mean, flip through the last decade, and tell me you’d rather have 3 picks in this years’ top-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Things are getting interesting. Will the classy Mara trade for a serial sex offender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Why he saints handed taysom hill the kinda dough they have is beyond bizarre to me. A good portion of that contract is fluff. He is only guaranteed a small fraction of what the top number was reported. Either way, he is a scrub and the whole thing made little sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Louis Riddick interviewed for the GM job that went to Gettleman and was supposedly a “finalist” fwiw. Giants could hit a trifecta by hiring Riddick and Flores, then trading for Watson. If they were so inclined, that is. Absolutely. Add Ryan Clark in some manner to the staff - maybe scouting and you turn around real quick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 35 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Louis Riddick interviewed for the GM job that went to Gettleman and was supposedly a “finalist” fwiw. Giants could hit a trifecta by hiring Riddick and Flores, then trading for Watson. If they were so inclined, that is. Riddick was pimping for the Bears job the other day, he is calling the game and I'm thinking 'oh he wants this job indeed he does.' Would be no worse of a hire than many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 First of all if you traded for Watson and even come close to their asking price you’re talking like 3 no. 1 draft picks. I don’t think the Texans would get it but you’d think at least one pick maybe this years which is overall 5. And that’s for damaged goods a guy who could be indefinitely suspended or worse. There will be lots of external pressure on the NFL remember Ray Rice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: First of all if you traded for Watson and even come close to their asking price you’re talking like 3 no. 1 draft picks. I don’t think the Texans would get it but you’d think at least one pick maybe this years which is overall 5. And that’s for damaged goods a guy who could be indefinitely suspended or worse. There will be lots of external pressure on the NFL remember Ray Rice. If we take out the off-the-field stuff, I’d absolutely trade 3 #1’s for Watson. Giants could take care of 2 of those this year alone. Plus it’s seemingly a weak draft so not the worst picks to trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: If we take out the off-the-field stuff, I’d absolutely trade 3 #1’s for Watson. Giants could take care of 2 of those this year alone. Plus it’s seemingly a weak draft so not the worst picks to trade. There must be a reason they wouldn’t activate him and didn’t trade him in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: They’ve been investigating this thing for two years now. If Watson is guilty of anything other than being a disgusting pervert, they would have tagged and bagged him already. That's not how this works. Criminal conviction requires "beyond a reasonable doubt"; civil liability just "preponderance of the evidence". Criminal conviction in a years-late he-said she-said accusation with no physical evidence is almost impossible, especially because you can't bring in all the accusers in any one case - this was never going to be a criminal issue. But the odds that he loses a civil suit when there are this many accusers aren't low. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: That's not how this works. Criminal conviction requires "beyond a reasonable doubt"; civil liability just "preponderance of the evidence". Criminal conviction in a years-late he-said she-said accusation with no physical evidence is almost impossible, especially because you can't bring in all the accusers in any one case - this was never going to be a criminal issue. But the odds that he loses a civil suit when there are this many accusers aren't low. Would the threat of the civil suit still exist if they settled with Buzbee? I recall reading that there was an agreement in place for such a thing, but Hardin objected to some non-disclosure language as it related to the settlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Wouldn’t a lot of this depend on the new GM ? I think Flores will be off the market soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Wouldn’t a lot of this depend on the new GM ? I think Flores will be off the market soon Flores is from the Bronx. You’d think he’d hold off the Texans for a week or two if there was a chance to get the Giants job plus Watson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Would the threat of the civil suit still exist if they settled with Buzbee? I recall reading that there was an agreement in place for such a thing, but Hardin objected to some non-disclosure language as it related to the settlement. Not from any of his plaintiffs, but there hasn't been a settlement; they apparently offered 100K per plaintiff but at least one of the women turned it down, and it was an all-or-nothing offer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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