Imagine if we draft Thibs and Jordan Davis?

[Rhg1084]

I know everyone is saying we must go WR at 10 but imagine if we take Thibs at 4 and then this monster Davis at 10? The defensive line would be a serious problem for opposing teams with a rotation of Lawson, Q, JFM, Thibs, Davis. JD and Saleh preach how they love building through the trenches so I don’t think this is completely out of the realm of possibilities. 

[Grandy]

No ty 

Need man who catch ball

[Dwight Englewood]

I wouldn’t mind going defense twice but I’d prefer a LB or DB at 10

[Jimmy 2 Times]

I’d rather imagine Walker/Thibs and Johnson.

QB killers in waves. 

[Rhg1084]

If we add these two guys I don’t see how our defensive line could ever be blocked. Mac Jones would be running for his life

 

 

[Larz]

Imagine having a pass rush and a run defense so you can force 3rd and long , force a fumble and win the game ?

that would suck ! 

[Warfish]

7 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

I know everyone is saying we must go WR at 10

Because we really should go WR at #10, best prospect in the draft at that position.

7 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

but imagine if we take Thibs at 4 and then this monster Davis at 10? The defensive line would be a serious problem for opposing teams with a rotation of Lawson, Q, JFM, Thibs, Davis. JD and Saleh preach how they love building through the trenches so I don’t think this is completely out of the realm of possibilities. 

Perhaps.

But even if we have the best D-Line in the NFL, the NFL is still a passing and offense dominated league, we'll still be a losing team, or even a #1 draft pick contender, if the Offense remains moribund. 

We'll just lose by 10 or 7 or 3 instead of by 30.

Sorry, but Fans of Defense had their time, for ages we always picked Defense at our top picks.  That time has passed.

Be glad if you get Edge at #4, because honestly, more Offense would likely pay higher returns than even an Edge at #4 would.

I fully expect a split draft, one O one D in round 1, one O one D in round 2.  And a semi-even split the rest of the way.

[Irish Jet]

I think this is far more likely than people think.

Rankins is likely gone and we have nothing next to Q. Foley was the only guy we had strong against the run and it was already a huge weakness. The front seven was getting mauled last year with the Indy game being the most pathetic display by a Jets line thay I can remember. We know Saleh prioritises the trenches and we’ve lost more than we’ve gained thus far.

I wouldn’t necessarily hate it as Davis or Wyatt both look incredible but I’d have preferred we just kept Foley and drafted someone else, even at the expense of some of our pickups.

As for WR we obviously need some more options but Douglas has thus far been using the second round to target them  - he may feel that’s where the value is. We’re also paying Corey Davis like a #1 and we just paid Berrios like a high end #3 so I’m not as convinced it’s high priority that everyone believes it is. 

[kevinc855]

I'm not fully opposed but I can't imagine not giving Zach no WR1.......kind of a big year for his development 

[Gastineau Lives]

2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

If we add these two guys I don’t see how our defensive line could ever be blocked. Mac Jones would be running for his life

 

 

You mean briskly walking away

[Warfish]

2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

I think this is far more likely than people think.

Rankins is likely gone and we have nothing next to Q. Foley was the only guy we had strong against the run and it’s a huge weakness. The front seven was getting mauled last year with the Indy game being the most pathetic display by a Jets line thay I can remember. We know Saleh prioritises the trenches and we’ve lost more than we’ve gained thus far.

I wouldn’t necessarily hate it as Davis or Wyatt both look incredible but I’d have preferred we just kept Foley and drafted someone else, even at the expense of some of our pickups.

In that scenario, would the Jets go WR in Round 2, or even later?  Or hell, not at all?

Who would you see the Jets getting at WR then, because Davis/Moore/Berrios/Mims doesn't feel like it's adequate without another top-end piece.

[BornJetsFan1983]

10 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

I know everyone is saying we must go WR at 10 but imagine if we take Thibs at 4 and then this monster Davis at 10? The defensive line would be a serious problem for opposing teams with a rotation of Lawson, Q, JFM, Thibs, Davis. JD and Saleh preach how they love building through the trenches so I don’t think this is completely out of the realm of possibilities. 

alot of really great WR have been drafted in the second round...I wouldnt mind this at all.

[Sarge4Tide]

I'd be cool with it.  There are several good WR prospects who will likely be there in early round 2

[Rhg1084]

1 minute ago, Warfish said:

In that scenario, would the Jets go WR in Round 2, or even later?  Or hell, not at all?

Who would you see the Jets getting at WR then, because Davis/Moore/Berrios/Mims doesn't feel like it's adequate without another top-end piece.

No obviously they still need to address the WR position, maybe they trade for a veteran

[BornJetsFan1983]

5 minutes ago, Larz said:

Imagine having a pass rush and a run defense so you can force 3rd and long , force a fumble and win the game ?

that would suck ! 

just terrible

[PS17]

Get the **** out of here with another interior D lineman. Stockholm Syndrome is real.

[BornJetsFan1983]

10 minutes ago, Dwight Englewood said:

I wouldn’t mind going defense twice but I’d prefer a LB or DB at 10

I think it would be a waste to pick a guy that high. just not good value for the position, you can get these guys later on, but the pass rusher no way...

[Irish Jet]

1 minute ago, Warfish said:

In that scenario, would the Jets go WR in Round 2, or even later?  Or hell, not at all?

Who would you see the Jets getting at WR then, because Davis/Moore/Berrios/Mims doesn't feel like it's adequate without another top-end piece.

Ha I had just edited it to give my thoughts on the WR position. Definitely more would need to be added and the second round would be most likely. 

[Warfish]

1 minute ago, Irish Jet said:

Ha I had just edited it to give my thoughts on the WR position. Definitely more would need to be added and the second round would be most likely. 

JD's Mims pick could be the guide for how he thinks about WR< admittedly.

I think I'd be quite disappointed if we go this route, but as I always say, proof is the results, if it works, I'm happy to be wrong.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

20 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

I know everyone is saying we must go WR at 10 but imagine if we take Thibs at 4 and then this monster Davis at 10? The defensive line would be a serious problem for opposing teams with a rotation of Lawson, Q, JFM, Thibs, Davis. JD and Saleh preach how they love building through the trenches so I don’t think this is completely out of the realm of possibilities. 

It is tempting, even as a paying member of the Offense beats Defense I Want a WR fan club.

Can he wrap that chain around Josh Allen’s neck?  
 

If DTackle isn’t deep in the draft, then you consider it if you truly believe that you can still get a potential WR1 at the top of round 2 or are convinced there are NO WR1s in this draft.  But you’d have to also then either be comfortable pushing TE2 to round 3 where there might be a big drop off in talent or push a sorely needed LB who can cover and stop the run to round 3.

I think those are big ifs and some less attractive dominos so my money is on no.

I instead propose to cut Rankins and spend the money on a free agent who can stop the run and push the pocket.  Maybe the guy the Bears let go.

[Rhg1084]

 

For the record, Davis is a complete freak of nature 

[billo83]

When was the last time the Jets drafted a good wide receiver? When was the last time they drafted one in the first round? That's not coincidence. They need to draft one in the first round.

[nycdan]

9 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

For the record, Davis is a complete freak of nature 

Here's another nearly full circle from two years ago:

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/chase-claypool

[Rhg1084]

 

[Rhg1084]

1 minute ago, nycdan said:

Here's another one:

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/chase-claypool

 

Lol I don’t get the Claypool reference?

[nycdan]

Just now, Rhg1084 said:

Lol I don’t get the Claypool reference?

Just that spider charts that look like that are pretty rare.  That's the only other one I can remember seeing that was almost solid.  And he turned out pretty damned good.

[Hex]

I'm starting to get skeptical of Thibs, we need players we can trust to be consistent on and off the field.

A WR is definitely needed, and based on the fact that we didn't really get WRs from other teams I have the feeling that draft is the plan.

[Rhg1084]

1 minute ago, nycdan said:

Just that spider charts that look like that are pretty rare.  That's the only other one I can remember seeing that was almost solid.  And he turned out pretty damned good.

Oh yeah gotcha, Davis is a complete beast and kinda hope we do land him along with Thibs to build an all world defensive line. Would be a lot of fun to watch 

[LAD_Brooklyn]

If we're to go defense twice under this scenario of having Thib 4th overall, then the next pick must be Lloyd. You can say he's similar to Parson as a do it all LB. Double dipping for Johnson at DE is another option. With the last option being drafting CB McDuffie if the FO wants a complete makeover at the CB position. 

At DT there's guys like Travis Jones (UConn) and Neil Farrell Jr. (LSU) who could be draft day 2 or 3 instead of burning a 1st on Davis.

[Larz]

29 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

just terrible

Why ?

[Rhg1084]

1 minute ago, LAD_Brooklyn said:

If we're to go defense twice under this scenario of having Thib 4th overall, then the next pick must be Lloyd. You can say he's similar to Parson as a do it all LB. Double dipping for Johnson at DE is another option. With the last option being drafting CB McDuffie if the FO wants a complete makeover at the CB position. 

At DT there's guys like Travis Jones (UConn) and Neil Farrell Jr. (LSU) who could be draft day 2 or 3 instead of burning a 1st on Davis.

Alright now hear me out. Draft Thibs and Davis at 4 and 10, and then we trade UP to the 20s or wherever to draft either Lloyd or Dean. How ridiculous would the defense be if we added those 3 guys?

[JazzyJet]

23 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

For the record, Davis is a complete freak of nature 

agreed - just look at this monster next to Wyatt who himself is no small man.

 

[doitny]

if JD signs a good WR in the next few days then i would be ok with this. but the idea that we can pick any WR in the whole draft at 10 is too good to pass up. 

[Warfish]

26 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

For the record, Davis is a complete freak of nature 

So was Chase Young, how is that working out so far

[Darnold's Forehead]

WR does not need to be in the first round.   Receiver in the 2nd with another TE in the 3rd/4th will be fine.  It would be stupid to sacrifice the front seven just because Zach needs to be babied.  Why was he the second overall pick if he needs top talent all around him?

Our front seven was absolute garbage last season and should be the priority.