Zach Wilson cleared by doctors, starting Sunday

[Biggs]

11 hours ago, Supersonic said:

I believe a lot of fans on this board expect Zach to fail, so they secretly hope he fails, so they can brag 'I told you so', rather than be happy that they're eating crow, as a true fan would be.  You know how I know this?  Because when Zach does something well, they try to play it down.  We need to rename this place "Jets non-fan-forum".

A true Jets fan would have volunteered themselves as a human sacrifice to the football gods.   This entire place is made up of fake fans.  You know how I know this.  The dead voices howl in the wind they aren't writting posts.  You're a diseased fraud.  

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

10 hours ago, ZachEY said:

Something that seems to get lost on people, and maybe it should be made explicit here.  You can, in fact, root for someone, and make jokes about him on the internet.  They are not mutually exclusive.

Of course you can.  My comments weren’t about good hearted jokes.

[Barry McCockinner]

 

[xJayce]

23 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

I don't even care how he looks on Sunday. I just want to see him play. And not get killed because of ol' 'Turnstile' McDermott... 

[FidelioJet]

13 hours ago, ZachEY said:

Something that seems to get lost on people, and maybe it should be made explicit here.  You can, in fact, root for someone, and make jokes about him on the internet.  They are not mutually exclusive.

Sure..

but there are CLEARLY plenty of fans on this forum that are hoping Zach Wilson fails.

That are more excited about his failures than any positives.

[ZachEY]

14 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Sure..

but there are CLEARLY plenty of fans on this forum that are hoping Zach Wilson fails.

That are more excited about his failures than any positives.

What’s actually clear is that you’re not able to distinguish between wanting Zach to fail and having given up hope on him (and perhaps the Jets too), and just laughing about the situation.

I don’t know if you realize this, but this is a hobby… it’s supposed to be fun.  We’re all addicted and should have walked away years ago from this franchise as they’ve provided almost no return on the investment of our time and energy.  Continuing to support this team is completely illogical because they just aren’t enjoyable.  So, one way people do take enjoyment in things is to laugh, and the Jets, and your binky, Zach Wilson, have, at the very least, given us a lot to laugh about.  It’s not that anyone wants failure, it’s that they expect it, and are making the best of it.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

1 minute ago, ZachEY said:

What’s actually clear is that you’re not able to distinguish between wanting Zach to fail and having given up hope on him (and perhaps the Jets too), and just laughing about the situation.

I don’t know if you realize this, but this is a hobby… it’s supposed to be fun.  We’re all addicted and should have walked away years ago from this franchise as they’ve provided almost no return on the investment of our time and energy.  Continuing to support this team is completely illogical because they just aren’t enjoyable.  So, one way people do take enjoyment in things is to laugh, and the Jets, and your binky, Zach Wilson, have, at the very least, given us a lot to laugh about.  It’s not that they want failure, it’s that they expect it, and are making the best of it.

Well this is depressing....

go jets

[FidelioJet]

3 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

It’s not that anyone wants failure

This is incorrect.

Everything else you wrote is self-righteous nonsense.

[Charlie Brown]

4 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

What’s actually clear is that you’re not able to distinguish between wanting Zach to fail and having given up hope on him (and perhaps the Jets too), and just laughing about the situation.

I don’t know if you realize this, but this is a hobby… it’s supposed to be fun.  We’re all addicted and should have walked away years ago from this franchise as they’ve provided almost no return on the investment of our time and energy.  Continuing to support this team is completely illogical because they just aren’t enjoyable.  So, one way people do take enjoyment in things is to laugh, and the Jets, and your binky, Zach Wilson, have, at the very least, given us a lot to laugh about.  It’s not that they want failure, it’s that they expect it, and are making the best of it.

Great Post & Points

Unfortunately, this is the big and hidden TRUTH for many posters out here!!!

And why folks are given a wide latitude here.........

Oh Boy... Let's Go Jets!!!

[ZachEY]

Just now, FidelioJet said:

This is incorrect.

Everything else you wrote is self-righteous nonsense.

Prove it.  Name names and provide evidence.

Also, I don’t think you know what self-righteous means, because that post, that ain’t it.

[Warfish]

10 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

It’s not that anyone wants failure, it’s that they expect it.

Perfect said.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

18 hours ago, fullblast said:

 

?

“He’s hard to throw the ball to” because “he’s hard to stay in front of”?

What does this even mean?

GW gets too much separation, runs too fast?  He’s too open?

They don’t have a playbook where Kapono knows what route GW is supposed to be running?

I mean WT…

This is gonna be ugly, boys and girls 

[Jet Nut]

23 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Right 

As opposed to the world beater Jets who have trailed by multiple TDs late 4th Q in all 3 of their contests 

What did the Jets have to do with his Dolphins comment?  Wrong as they were?

[Jetsfan80]

42 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

This is incorrect.

Everything else you wrote is self-righteous nonsense.

 

No its not, and this is you:

 

[FidelioJet]

7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

No its not, and this is you:

 

What a witty response.  Just make sh*t up.  I mean good for you I guess.

 

[Ken Schroy]

53 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Prove it.  Name names and provide evidence.

Also, I don’t think you know what self-righteous means, because that post, that ain’t it.

Says the guy that slams posters and their families.

[FidelioJet]

50 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Prove it.  Name names and provide evidence.

Also, I don’t think you know what self-righteous means, because that post, that ain’t it.

I've been through this countless times already - go find this list if you're interested.  There are simply people here that are so dug in - that, on Sunday, I can assure you, they will be rooting against Zach - not a majority, not even a large minority, but a handful - and it's obvious.  

As I've also stated, I have no problem if that's your choice - but I will simply call it out.  You have every right to cheer or root for whoever you want.  
You say you're not rooting against him, I believe you.  Just not sure why you have to speak for everyone else.

 

This was CLEARLY your post - Self Righteous was a perfect fit:

 

self-right·eous

/ˌself ˈrīCHəs/

adjective

having or characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior.

"self-righteous indignation and complacency"

[Joe W. Namath]

2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I've been through this countless times already - go find this list if you're interested.  There are simply people here that are so dug in - that, on Sunday, I can assure you, they will be rooting against Zach - not a majority, not even a large minority, but a handful - and it's obvious.  

As I've also stated, I have no problem if that's your choice - but I will simply call it out.  You have every right to cheer or root for whoever you want.  
You say you're not rooting against him, I believe you.  Just not sure why you have to speak for everyone else.

 

This was CLEARLY your post - Self Righteous was a perfect fit:

 

self-right·eous

/ˌself ˈrīCHəs/

adjective

having or characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior.

"self-righteous indignation and complacency"

100% true.  Majority of this board hates, Joe Douglas, Robert Saleh, Jeff Ulbrich and Zach Wilson.  You think they are going to be happy when they succeed?

Watch how even more angry and miserable this board becomes when the winning starts.  And that is happening soon.

[TheClashFan]

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

Sure..

but there are CLEARLY plenty of fans on this forum that are hoping Zach Wilson fails.

That are more excited about his failures than any positives.

Probably true, but that's not to say that there are legit criticisms of ZW.

I'm not optimistic about him at all, but I hope he does well on Sunday.

 

[THE BARON]

1 hour ago, xJayce said:

I don't even care how he looks on Sunday. I just want to see him play. And not get killed because of ol' 'Turnstile' McDermott... 

He will suck as he does and the excuses will come on tap.

The line sucks, LeFleur didn't call good plays.  It was raining out.  Zach was having a bad hair day. Etc...

And the Jets were two ridiculous wins away from getting Trevor Lawrence.

And the good news.  It does look like JD has the chops to build a team that competes from year to year.

It will be up to him to draft the right QB next year and hire the right HC after Saleh gets canned.  That will probably be at the conclusion of the 2023 season. 

 

[FidelioJet]

Just now, TheClashFan said:

Probably true, but that's not to say that there are legit criticisms of ZW.

I'm not optimistic about him at all, but I hope he does well on Sunday.

 

Completely agree.  I challenge and have clallegend anyone to find anyone on this board - anyone - that said Zach had a good year last year.  Or anyone that doesn't agree he was mostly bad.

Criticism is entirely warranted.  

Personally, I saw marked improvement in the last quarter of the season and this off-season.  I have high hopes and expectations but don't expect anyone else to.

But to tell me there aren't people so dug in on they're here hoping he fails - is just wrong.

 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

What did the Jets have to do with his Dolphins comment?  Wrong as they were?

I thought this was a Jets forum, sorry 

Next time, I’ll copy and paste a reply to JWN’s post into a message board somewhere dedicated to Jet fans trying to dis the 3-0 Dolphins

Besides, to answer your question, his concluding point was the Dolphins aren’t actually good and that the Jets will overtake 1st place by beating them in week 5

So yeah, the idea that the Jets will beat the Dolphins involves the Jets

[FidelioJet]

12 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

100% true.  Majority of this board hates, Joe Douglas, Robert Saleh, Jeff Ulbrich and Zach Wilson.  You think they are going to be happy when they succeed?

Watch how even more angry and miserable this board becomes when the winning starts.  And that is happening soon.

You know what I find most comical about this..

There are more people ALREADY complaining about the excuses Jet fans are going to make about Zach failing - before he's even played - than there are people actually hoping he performs well.

Again, to each his own - but it's just must be sad to live like that.

[Joe W. Namath]

5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

You know what I find most comical about this..

There are more people ALREADY complaining about the excuses Jet fans are going to make about Zach failing - before he's even played - than there are people actually hoping he performs well.

Again, to each his own - but it's just must be sad to live like that.

Ive coined this fanbase "diseased" for a reason.  I did not just pull that out of thin air.  Its really sad and true.

[ZachEY]

31 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said:

Says the guy that slams posters and their families.

Evidence of me attacking someone’s family?

[ZachEY]

32 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I've been through this countless times already - go find this list if you're interested.  There are simply people here that are so dug in - that, on Sunday, I can assure you, they will be rooting against Zach - not a majority, not even a large minority, but a handful - and it's obvious.  

As I've also stated, I have no problem if that's your choice - but I will simply call it out.  You have every right to cheer or root for whoever you want.  
You say you're not rooting against him, I believe you.  Just not sure why you have to speak for everyone else.

 

This was CLEARLY your post - Self Righteous was a perfect fit:

 

self-right·eous

/ˌself ˈrīCHəs/

adjective

having or characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior.

"self-righteous indignation and complacency"

You’re the one claiming to be a mind-reader.  I’m claiming you’re not and that everyone here is rooting for the Jets, even if they make jokes about them.

Am I being condescending to you?  Sure thing I am.  Your thesis is actually self-righteous as you’ve decided your way of being a fan is in fact superior.  So, I’ve no issue being condescending to someone acting that way.

[Warfish]

34 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Watch how even more angry and miserable this board becomes when the winning starts.  And that is happening soon.

Is that before or after Zach Wilson definitely starts week 1?

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, ZachEY said:

but this is a hobby

My hobby is hoping Zach Wilson fails.

[Warfish]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

My hobby is hoping Zach Wilson fails.

Stop feeding the Homers please.

[The Crusher]

54 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

100% true.  Majority of this board hates, Joe Douglas, Robert Saleh, Jeff Ulbrich and Zach Wilson.  You think they are going to be happy when they succeed?

Watch how even more angry and miserable this board becomes when the winning starts.  And that is happening soon.

Why is so important for you to say we hate them? We don’t  even know them honestly. Nobody hates them, it’s just your little schtick to go along with your “diseased” thing you do. Why can’t it be we just hate the results and don’t believe at  all it’s going to get better? As far as I’m concerned we have been given way more reasons to think it’s not going to improve as opposed to a single reason other than you declaring it like it’s a foregone conclusion. Saleh simply hasn’t shown any ability to coach anyone up while he’s been here. The defense is putrid even with the new additions and the offense supposedly will break out now the statistically worse QB in the league last year  is coming back from his yearly convalescences. 
 

But yeah, we are the unreasonable ones who would like to see a shred of tangible proof this team is capable of anything other than being one if not the worse in the league. But no, we must hate everyone because according to you it’s so obvious we must have a disease to not notice it. You are a troll, plain and simple. Clever, very good at it, but a troll just the same. 

[ZachEY]

19 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

My hobby is hoping Zach Wilson fails.

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

What a witty response.  Just make sh*t up.  I mean good for you I guess.

You're clearly very mature and more than capable of an honest discourse.  

EY, who is a friggin therapist in real life mind you, gave you a well thought out answer and you dismissed it out of hand, then called him "self-righteous".  Not even close, but whatever you need to tell yourself to make you believe there are people rooting against your boy left and right.

So this was me sticking up for him like you defend Zach.  Way to show your true colors on this one in the process.

[slimjasi]

10 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

You know, after all this time, I JUST NOW realized that your avatar is a pic of Laveranues Coles. I never really thought about who it was before. 

[xJayce]

1 hour ago, THE BARON said:

He will suck as he does and the excuses will come on tap.

The line sucks, LeFleur didn't call good plays.  It was raining out.  Zach was having a bad hair day. Etc...

And the Jets were two ridiculous wins away from getting Trevor Lawrence.

And the good news.  It does look like JD has the chops to build a team that competes from year to year.

It will be up to him to draft the right QB next year and hire the right HC after Saleh gets canned.  That will probably be at the conclusion of the 2023 season. 

 

Can we, maybe, give him 3-4 games this season before deciding he's done? 

[T0mShane]

Pumpkin spice latte.