FidelioJet Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Can you guys maybe look at the entire body of work? Are you talking about his career or game today? If you're taking about games - NFL games are like this - QB's are up and down through games. Was Zach great today, of course not. after the INT he fell apart again...but he found his footing again when it mattered. Did Zach do enough to win the game? absolutely. He had the team in a position to win - D needed a stop. Zach, made the plays he needed to make when he needed to make them. that's just the realty. So I say, could he have been better - for sure. What he "the reason they lost" absolutely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: The guy put the team in the lead and the defense gave up a preposterous touchdown, then he made a wacky play and the kicker missed. Not a stellar game but he put his teammates in a position to win multiple times and they didn't do much either. And he did this after the whole team, city, and media ostracized him for a month. Actually gained a little more respect for the guy today, he shut up and did his best and that's about anyone could ask for. If he's not able to play after being criticized for poor play, then he should not be in the NFL? He has been, for most of his career, the worst QB in the NFL. He was very up and down today, but his playmakers came up big. You can point to maybe 2-3 good throws during the game. He's still missing screen / swing passes, he's still regularly sailing the ball, and he still makes really questionable decisions. Hell, if Carter doesn't come up with that stupid catch, he prolly has 2 ints today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, HighPitch said: The bent elbow. Farmingdale. Bathroom….. you were wearing paco roban, I asked about your tshirt. We made out. I guess you didnt care it’s “Paco Rabanne” but yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, T0mShane said: Just take out your flip phone and type “get my ass kicked” into the search bar on MapQuest You think Siri can hear you ask her for directions back to Bridgeport with the phone up your ass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: The backup QB did enough to win. Special teams, defense, and coaching blew it. It’s so weird how many people didn’t have this standard the past 2 weeks. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Definitely not on Zach but 17 points is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, Gastineau Lives said: You think Siri can hear you ask her for directions back to Bridgeport with the phone up your ass? I’ve tested this very scenario and yes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, JetPotato said: The defense gave up 13 points. Guys, please, think. 13 points ??? Who gives a damn they sh*t the bed when it matters most to a damn 3rd String BUM for 60 yards ….. first catch of the game 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, JiFields said: Definitely not on Zach but 17 points is unacceptable. It’s on Zach. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 Zach can make throws few can make as he showed today. It doesn’t make up for routinely missing throws anyone can make. That miss to Berrios when we schemed him into space - You can’t play in the league missing throws like that. He does it in every game. Give it up. He sucks. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He is Hackenberg bad. This. You are seeing what it would have looked like had Hackenberg started NFL football games. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, ZachStepdad said: 13 points ??? Who gives a damn they sh*t the bed when it matters most to a damn 3rd String BUM for 60 yards ….. first catch of the game Unreal. Do you not understand that it shouldn't have been "when it mattered most"? Every play of the game for the defense is "when it matters most" when your offense doesn't score. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Everyone cares about the damn stat lines when at the end of it all it’s about wins and losses …. We should’ve won this ****in game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 When the offense hums and looks like it’s supposed to look with Mike White, we score 17 points and lose. When the offense runs behind Zach and trades consistency for explosion, we score 17 points and lose. Weird, almost like there’s a common denominator skating from blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, T0mShane said: It’s on Zach. The problem with saying this, is that the jets O keeps failing regardless of who the qb is. In minny the red zone failures lost the game. In buffalo they scored 1 td. Today 17 points. Here’s the real problem: the OL is so banged up they can’t run the ball anymore (and they miss breece). The offense is mostly one dimensional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Zap was god awful. His big plays were miracle underthrown moon balls but he still can't hit slants or screens. White is decent but I think we overrate him because his decent play looks all pro worthy compared to Zip. Not to mention he sadly can't stay healthy. The starting QB next year isn't on the roster yet. At least I hope not. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: It’s on Zach. Should Douglas get another pick at QB? I’m leaning no with the overall body of work. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, slimjasi said: He was better than he’s been and makes some really exciting plays, but he’s just flawed not good enough from the pocket - that’s the bottom line to me right now. maybe down the road he figures it out because the arm talent is electric, but it feels extremely unlikely to happen here with the Jets I'm not even convinced on arm talent. Saw a number of receivers either stop or come back towards the ball because it was underthrown. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, kdels62 said: When the offense hums and looks like it’s supposed to look with Mike White, we score 17 points and lose. When the offense runs behind Zach and trades consistency for explosion, we score 17 points and lose. Weird, almost like there’s a common denominator skating from blame. There’s more going on than just who plays qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Zach Wilson doubled Mike White's passing touchdowns from the previous two weeks in one game Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk You want to die on the Zach Wilson hill.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, T0mShane said: It’s on Zach. I mean in it in the sense of like, Zach didnt go out and lose the game, like he has in the past but obviously didnt do enough either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCH23 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: The backup QB did enough to win. Special teams, defense, and coaching blew it. Agreed. If we're viewing him as the back-up we shouldn't expect more than we got. We needed our starter to win . . . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: ZW contributed with some bad plays and didn't bail the team out but the team around him sucked all on their own. The defense and special teams were horrible from the beginning. Can't even blame him that poor QB play resulting in a gassed defense. So wait, the D gave up 13 points today, against a team that scores, on average 25, and they sucked? Sure, the last drive was terrible, but they did their part. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, Mogglez said: This. You are seeing what it would have looked like had Hackenberg started NFL football games. You give any BCS level starting QB enough snaps, they’ll eventually produce a handful of impressive throws. Playing QB in the NFL is about stringing together a bunch of those impressive throws on any given drive. Zach fans are reduced to paring down every game to two or three completions that they deem to be good, but are forced to ignore the 70%(?) of snaps that are absurd misfires. You cannot build an offense around that. 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Are you talking about his career or game today? If you're taking about games - NFL games are like this - QB's are up and down through games. Was Zach great today, of course not. after the INT he fell apart again...but he found his footing again when it mattered. Did Zach do enough to win the game? absolutely. He had the team in a position to win - D needed a stop. Zach, made the plays he needed to make when he needed to make them. that's just the realty. So I say, could he have been better - for sure. What he "the reason they lost" absolutely not. Dude, he had one good series. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: The backup QB did enough to win. Special teams, defense, and coaching blew it. Reread this about 2 or 3 more times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’ve tested this very scenario and yes ^^^^somehow has two phones when he gets home 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, ZachStepdad said: Everyone cares about the damn We should’ve won this ****in game How many times has this been said this year? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Coquito said: 3rd best in the league? Hype? Unclutch with a lead hype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Are you talking about his career or game today? If you're taking about games - NFL games are like this - QB's are up and down through games. Was Zach great today, of course not. after the INT he fell apart again...but he found his footing again when it mattered. Did Zach do enough to win the game? absolutely. He had the team in a position to win - D needed a stop. Zach, made the plays he needed to make when he needed to make them. that's just the realty. So I say, could he have been better - for sure. What he "the reason they lost" absolutely not. No he didn’t, or else we would have won. He would have put us in a better position than a 58 yarder and gifted the Lions 3. He is an abomination 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, LSJF said: Unclutch with a lead hype I'm gonna go out on a limb, here. You think Zach is a starter in the NFL. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Lol Zach was terrible. Handful of good throws, many, many bad passes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, Jet Life said: No he didn’t, or else we would have won. He would have put us in a better position than a 58 yarder and gifted the Lions 3. He is an abomination If they used timeouts they would have got closer. That drive was not on wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, Peteo said: The game winning TD was squarely on the D. Yup, they need to be held accountable for giving up 13 points. Just completely terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Unreal. Do you not understand that it shouldn't have been "when it mattered most"? Every play of the game for the defense is "when it matters most" when your offense doesn't score. Yeah, when there’s less than two minutes left in the game, that’s kind of the time to step up and forget the stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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