Sauce publicly calls out the ref

[RevisIsland610]

1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Yes Saleh throwing a temper tantrum at a crucial point in the game and leading his players to do the same clearly worked out well for them.

 Players talked about it after the game. Saleh did that when game was over and KC was running the clock out. It meant nothing from a winning or losing perspective. He was just making a point. He also said nothing in the post game presser when asked about it. 

[WeCantDraftGoodQBs]

Everything about that call was suspect and especially because it was called after the play. It’s like someone called down from above and said wait the Chiefs are only up by 3, and with that interception the Jets could actually win this thing (God forbid) and that would not sit well with Taylor Swift and her Swiftees fans. Taylor might think Kelce is a loser (if his team can’t even beat the lowly Jets) and wind up dumping him and the NFL would lose her and her Swiftee fans . . . could the NFL even survive something as devastating that?

[Claymation]

31 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Are you being obtuse on purpose here?  Of course it affected the outcome, if the O does literally anything in the 1st, it changes the game, slows the Chiefs scoring down, maybe puts some points of our own up.

But lets talk the late game then, if you prefer:

Here were our drives after Zach's literally perfect game-tying TD drive to start the 2nd half:

1. 3 PLAYS, 4 YARDS, 1:33, Zach 1-3 for 4 yards, PUNT
2. 4 PLAYS, 42 YARDS, 2:05, Zach 1-3 for 15 yards, PUNT (most of this drive was Hall's 43 yard run).
3. 6 PLAYS, 22 YARDS, 3:27, Zach's fumble ending it.

With the game on the line, this is what our O produced. 

Hall's one run of 43 yards accounted for almost 70% of ALL our offense after the start-of-2nd-half opening drive.

 

Again, they tied the game in the 3rd quarter. We get it, you don't like Zach and he "blew the game". I get that this is your mantra. You are like the countless people that watch this game, you have no clue what you are watching. But by all means blame Zach, because "Reasons".

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Oh good more screaming.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES!!!

[RutgersJetFan]

Just now, #27TheDominator said:

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES!!!

[DonCorleone]

10 hours ago, pointman said:

In any other field, that clown would be out of a job. Dock his pay, cut his position, end his tenure. 

In this case, they were doing the dirty work FOR the NFL. They could even get a raise.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

30 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

One can only hope.

Don’t overlook Vegas role in this either. Killing the last 8 minutes on a non-scoring drive hits the under and makes sure Jets beat the spread. I think.

Look. I can see that the officials either consciously or unconsciously favor the better teams/players and that is why the Chiefs got those call/non-calls. And I can see why certain players and teams get the benefit of the NFL version of the "Jordan Rules."  

The NFL is conspiring with Vegas tin foil stuff makes no sense to me or anyone who thinks it through.  So after the Wilson fumble, the officials schemed so KC would keep the ball, run out the clock, but not score?  How does that work exactly?  Were Reid and Mahomes in on it too?  How do they know what play calls KC would make?  What if Mahomes scored on that scramble?  Was the goal for KC to win the game but have the Jets cover?

Did Goodell meet with the officials before the game and review the game script?  

The NFL makes billions from TV and streaming and other revenue streams.  The coaches and players make millions.  NFL management also makes millions on the product,  not the outcomes.  There is no reason for anyone to fix game results with casinos or betting houses or DK/Fanduel to rig results in a game.  

[Charlie Brown]

1 hour ago, Bugg said:

The internet is dirty this morning  with people bitching about how Mahomes' slide cost them a pile of $. Not sure the NFL grasps how much gambling is changing how people watch their sport and why they watch. And that isn't good. 

I would wager there is a ref or several somewhere among the dozens of them who's phone would be a Donaghy-like embarrassment if anyone had the chance to look. Whether direct or 2nd hand. it's a matter of time until that happens, or gets covered up. 

But the NFL would have you believe that Refs cannot and are not impacted by the rampant gambling going on all around them, like has occurred in every OTHER major sporting event from Boxing to baseball; but football is somehow immune!

No, cause a Ref wouldn't make a biased call because he and his cousin's friend plucked down a boatload of money through a third-party to make sure that they made $$$$$$.  

Goodell missed an urgent statement that said in relevant part that he would personally look into this issue the same meticulous way that he looked into the Pats cheating........... by burying and burning the evidence!

[Warfish]

46 minutes ago, Claymation said:

Again, they tied the game in the 3rd quarter. We get it, you don't like Zach and he "blew the game". I get that this is your mantra. You are like the countless people that watch this game, you have no clue what you are watching. But by all means blame Zach, because "Reasons".

Brilliant analysis, truly deep and insightful.  Clearly YOU know what you're watching. 

I gave you data and cause, you give me the usual homer "leave Brittney alone you haterz!" emotions.

/shrug.  I also don;t "blame Zach", I blame Zach, Cook, the Defense, and the Coaches.  But you're ok  blaming the rest, just not Zach.

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, Biggs said:

You think Mahomes had the under and the Jets?  He went down to kill the clock when he could have gotten the points for the Chiefs.

I think, given the time left he didn’t need to slide and kill the clock. He could have walked in and made it a 2-score game with seconds left.

Do I think Mahomes had a bet? No. Do I think it was questionable wht he’d have been directed to make that choice? Yes, sorta.

[Integrity28]

37 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

Look. I can see that the officials either consciously or unconsciously favor the better teams/players and that is why the Chiefs got those call/non-calls. And I can see why certain players and teams get the benefit of the NFL version of the "Jordan Rules."  

The NFL is conspiring with Vegas tin foil stuff makes no sense to me or anyone who thinks it through.  So after the Wilson fumble, the officials schemed so KC would keep the ball, run out the clock, but not score?  How does that work exactly?  Were Reid and Mahomes in on it too?  How do they know what play calls KC would make?  What if Mahomes scored on that scramble?  Was the goal for KC to win the game but have the Jets cover?

Did Goodell meet with the officials before the game and review the game script?  

The NFL makes billions from TV and streaming and other revenue streams.  The coaches and players make millions.  NFL management also makes millions on the product,  not the outcomes.  There is no reason for anyone to fix game results with casinos or betting houses or DK/Fanduel to rig results in a game.  

 

[Claymation]

8 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Brilliant analysis, truly deep and insightful.  Clearly YOU know what you're watching. 

I gave you data and cause, you give me the usual homer "leave Brittney alone you haterz!" emotions.

/shrug.  I also don;t "blame Zach", I blame Zach, Cook, the Defense, and the Coaches.  But you're ok  blaming the rest, just not Zach.

You root to be right, and not for the Jets. That's ok, because more than half of this forum, on both sides of the Zach debate feel that way. They want to be right to validate their intelligence. 

And You clearly stated he "blew the game" about his 1st quarter performance. I stated they tied the game in the 3rd quarter. I don't know how else to describe to you? Do you need a PowerPoint presentation to better illustrate it? The score was tied 20-20. 

And for the record, I don't give a crap about Zach either way. But I root for the laundry, he's on the team and I hope he plays well. And you know what, he played well last night. His numbers back it up. 

[Warfish]

7 minutes ago, Claymation said:

You root to be right, and not for the Jets.

Total bullsh*t.  Save your emo B.S. for someone else ya little girl.

7 minutes ago, Claymation said:

And You clearly stated he "blew the game" about his 1st quarter performance.

What I said was:

....Zach's 1st quarter and late-game fumble blew the game, or that the Defense that had all but carried the game for us all game sh*t the bed down the stretch when it counted and guys like Q, who we paid a bajillion dollars to keep, was basically invisible on that final drive.

Selective reading, the sign of an emo homer defending his wifu.

7 minutes ago, Claymation said:

I stated they tied the game in the 3rd quarter. I don't know how else to describe to you? Do you need a PowerPoint presentation to better illustrate it? The score was tied 20-20.

Are you really this stupid?  Are you really going to argue that poor play in the first, when our O did nothing and the D let up 17, played no part in the outcome "because we tied it"?  Holy sh*t.

7 minutes ago, Claymation said:

And for the record, I don't give a crap about Zach either way.

Riiiight.

7 minutes ago, Claymation said:

But I root for the laundry, he's on the team and I hope he plays well. And you know what, he played well last night. His numbers back it up. 

I root the laundry too, so save your "I'm a better fan" routine, you homers toss that any time your favs get criticized.  

And yes, Zach played well at points, primarily the mid-game, 2nd quarter and the start of the third.  His first drive in the third was not just better, it was exceptional.

He did not play well early, nor did he play well late.

Sorry if the facts piss you off, but a guy who thinks the first quarter 17-0 didn't matter because we tied it is not a guy I'm going to take seriously.

[Claymation]

57 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Total bullsh*t.  Save your emo B.S. for someone else ya little girl.

What I said was:

....Zach's 1st quarter and late-game fumble blew the game, or that the Defense that had all but carried the game for us all game sh*t the bed down the stretch when it counted and guys like Q, who we paid a bajillion dollars to keep, was basically invisible on that final drive.

Selective reading, the sign of an emo homer defending his wifu.

Are you really this stupid?  Are you really going to argue that poor play in the first, when our O did nothing and the D let up 17, played no part in the outcome "because we tied it"?  Holy sh*t.

Riiiight.

I root the laundry too, so save your "I'm a better fan" routine, you homers toss that any time your favs get criticized.  

And yes, Zach played well at points, primarily the mid-game, 2nd quarter and the start of the third.  His first drive in the third was not just better, it was exceptional.

He did not play well early, nor did he play well late.

Sorry if the facts piss you off, but a guy who thinks the first quarter 17-0 didn't matter because we tied it is not a guy I'm going to take seriously.

I guess I struck a nerve.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I wish you well in your Zach sucks belief. You can tell everyone that you were right about him and validate your football acumen.  

[Barry McCockinner]

Richard Sherman weighs in.

 

[Matt39]

1 hour ago, Claymation said:

You root to be right, and not for the Jets. That's ok, because more than half of this forum, on both sides of the Zach debate feel that way. They want to be right to validate their intelligence. 

And You clearly stated he "blew the game" about his 1st quarter performance. I stated they tied the game in the 3rd quarter. I don't know how else to describe to you? Do you need a PowerPoint presentation to better illustrate it? The score was tied 20-20. 

And for the record, I don't give a crap about Zach either way. But I root for the laundry, he's on the team and I hope he plays well. And you know what, he played well last night. His numbers back it up. 

Time, score, down and distance all matter. Zach’s fumble was a huge blow. A ref stepping in on 3rd and 20 to make the game about them was even worse. Let’s the players decide the game.

[Augustiniak]

Just now, Matt39 said:

Time, score, down and distance all matter. Zach’s fumble was a huge blow. A ref stepping in on 3rd and 20 to make the game about them was even worse. Let’s the players decide the game.

the fumble was a killer.  before the last drive, the reffing wasn't bad.  but after the fumble i think those guys figured kc should win. 

 

[Larz]

4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Richard Sherman weighs in.

 

I agree 1 million percent 

[Matt39]

4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

the fumble was a killer.  before the last drive, the reffing wasn't bad.  but after the fumble i think those guys figured kc should win. 

 

The final drive was completely out of whack from how they officiated the entire game. KC went on a 8 minute drive to close out the game, with the aid of the officials. The ref deliberately stepped in on that call, when it’s universally known you do not call a jostling penalty on 3rd and forever in a one score game in the 4th quarter. These game breaking calls that result in a new set of downs are absolutely deliberate to tip the scales on the outcome. 

[Augustiniak]

Just now, Matt39 said:

The final drive was completely out of whack from how they officiated the entire game. KC went on a 8 minute drive to close out the game, with the aid of the officials. The ref deliberately stepped in on that call, when it’s universally known you do not call a jostling penalty on 3rd and forever in a one score game in the 4th quarter. 

the worst call was the non holding call on the mahomes scramble, it was so blatant.  the sauce hold was one thing, but call both.  

[Hit Cartel]

We should let the ChatGPT officiate the games. 

[Matt39]

7 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

the worst call was the non holding call on the mahomes scramble, it was so blatant.  the sauce hold was one thing, but call both.  

Swallowing the whistle is one thing (even when it’s as brutal as that was) but I’m much more ok with that than a thumb wrestling call on 3rd and 20 to give a team and auto first down and a win. You simply cannot make that call in that spot in good faith. The refs aren’t stupid they know what they’re doing when they give out a first down to bail out a terrible throw. Now the game is about the refs and not the game itself. But at least the Steratores get their last name out there some more.

[Jet_Engine1]

1 hour ago, Warfish said:

Total bullsh*t.  Save your emo B.S. for someone else ya little girl.

What I said was:

....Zach's 1st quarter and late-game fumble blew the game, or that the Defense that had all but carried the game for us all game sh*t the bed down the stretch when it counted and guys like Q, who we paid a bajillion dollars to keep, was basically invisible on that final drive.

Selective reading, the sign of an emo homer defending his wifu.

Are you really this stupid?  Are you really going to argue that poor play in the first, when our O did nothing and the D let up 17, played no part in the outcome "because we tied it"?  Holy sh*t.

Riiiight.

I root the laundry too, so save your "I'm a better fan" routine, you homers toss that any time your favs get criticized.  

And yes, Zach played well at points, primarily the mid-game, 2nd quarter and the start of the third.  His first drive in the third was not just better, it was exceptional.

He did not play well early, nor did he play well late.

Sorry if the facts piss you off, but a guy who thinks the first quarter 17-0 didn't matter because we tied it is not a guy I'm going to take seriously.

You're calling someone put for being an emotional little girl? 

[Jet_Engine1]

2 minutes ago, Hit Cartel said:

We should let the ChatGPT officiate the games. 

I asked Chat GPT the other day why Zach Wilson is a bad QB. Chat GPT responded by saying that "Zach Wilson is in his rookie year with the New York Jets".

 

I sh*t you not. True story. 

[Warfish]

23 minutes ago, Claymation said:

I guess I struck a nerve.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

Seems to be feelings is all you were about in this thread.  Sorry I wasn't interested, maybe try Tinder?

23 minutes ago, Claymation said:

You can tell everyone that you were right about him and validate your football acumen.  

Hopefully not. 

On to Denver, and their currently worst-in-NFL defense, where hopefully Zach can finally stack a productive quality game on top of last nights progress.  Then on to the Eagles.

[Smashmouth]

9 hours ago, Warfish said:

Sauce needs to learn to play less handsy. He’s committing fouls on almost every play. Jets fans will refuse to see it, because blaming the Refs for losses is a thing we all love to do, but it’s gonna be a problem for him going forward.

Im amazed we didn’t get several roughing the passer calls tonight, as often as we were hitting Mahomes after he’d thrown the ball. The Refs easily could have called several the way the league tends to call that penalty nowadays, especially for its star QB’s.. 

No you can be handsy its an NFL rule that you can put your hands on a WR as long as you do not misdirect his route. That's Sauces style and for him to go away from that would be taking his game away from him. The NFL needs to look at their Ref's and make changes accordingly we don't need a freaking apology letter every week for legit play on the field yesterday was a disgrace and they have already turned the tide on 2 games so far this year.

[Warfish]

17 minutes ago, Smashmouth said:

No you can be handsy its an NFL rule that you can put your hands on a WR as long as you do not misdirect his route. That's Sauces style and for him to go away from that would be taking his game away from him.

Then expect to see more and more of those calls, especially after Saleh and Sauce were so loud in their criticism of the Refs.

17 minutes ago, Smashmouth said:

The NFL needs to look at their Ref's and make changes accordingly

They're not going to do that.  

17 minutes ago, Smashmouth said:

we don't need a freaking apology letter every week for legit play on the field yesterday was a disgrace and they have already turned the tide on 2 games so far this year.

We'll see if we get one this time, I wouldn't expect it myself, but who knows.

[Green Ghost]

7 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Refs need to start being forced to stand for public pressers after the game.

They need to be answerable for these egregious / blatant hose jobs.

Seriously, Jets should hire their own PIs to investigate the ref who threw that flag and if he is in fact dirty, leak it to the press.

That is the only way things will change.

The League that hates the Jets cannot be trusted to do anything.

[Smashmouth]

5 hours ago, Warfish said:

Then expect to see more and more of those calls, especially after Saleh and Sauce were so loud in their criticism of the Refs.

They're not going to do that.  

We'll see if we get one this time, I wouldn't expect it myself, but who knows.

1. Sauce did this all last year it was already established

2. The NFL does monitor its ref's

3. The apology letter should come on the blatant hold on JJ and the Personal Foul on JJ both bullsh*t call/non call

[Waka Flocka Flacco]

6 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Swallowing the whistle is one thing (even when it’s as brutal as that was) but I’m much more ok with that than a thumb wrestling call on 3rd and 20 to give a team and auto first down and a win. You simply cannot make that call in that spot in good faith. The refs aren’t stupid they know what they’re doing when they give out a first down to bail out a terrible throw. Now the game is about the refs and not the game itself. But at least the Steratores get their last name out there some more.

oh grow up

[Lith]

 

[Hex]

6 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I asked Chat GPT the other day why Zach Wilson is a bad QB. Chat GPT responded by saying that "Zach Wilson is in his rookie year with the New York Jets".

 

I sh*t you not. True story. 

That's because the last time ChatGPT got any new information about the world was Septermeber 2021. You can ask it, it will tell you that. Zach had played at the most 3 or 4 games, and at the least none.

Funny how something so new could be so outdated.

[Lupz27]

10 hours ago, THE BARON said:

I'm glad Saleh gave it to the official after the game, but I think it is bad news for players to bitch about bad calls in front of the media.  The Jets got screwed, but they also got a call that gifted them a safety and they got a gift on that horse collar.  Best for players to suck it up and hold quite. 

I disagree 

This is a kid who is a star and knows and believes he is a star.

Like Rodgers he won’t stand for this aura about the Jets are garbage while he is here.

Culture changing player.

[peekskill68]

Now JJ is joining the chorus...

https://x.com/ii_jermaine/status/1708998646883045754?s=20

 

[Smashmouth]

17 hours ago, thebuzzardman said:

Would have been a nice career for Sauce. Now that he's criticized the refs? He's going to look average from here on out, getting called for everything. Oh well, we'll always have that rookie season. 

I hope that Idiot Sean Peyton tests that often this weekend with Russel Wilson

Sean Peyton the other coach who made a living off a great QB.

He's a ******* Clown