Bryce Huff: “I want to find a scheme that uses me as an every down player”

[TuscanyTile2]

It may as well have said "Bryce Huff - I want to find a scheme that gets me the hell away from Robert Saleh and Jeff Ulbrich".

[Cut Jet Penalty Makers]

This off season will see several of our best players looking for greener pastures even though they are under contract. They will try to force their way out. Being on this incompetently managed and coached team is impacting their bottom line in their mind and the league is becoming like the NBA in terms of players dictating where they play. Wait for it.

[Creepy Lurker]

19 minutes ago, Biggs said:

Don't care.  The team is done until Saleh is replaced.

That’s where I’m at. I don’t care about draft position or anything productive until there’s a regime change.

[ChewyandtheJets]

49 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

 

They do grow on trees if you are Joe Douglas. Most gms who have a clue what they are doing, build a well balanced team. Clearly jets offense has been constantly 1 of the worst 3 offenses in NFL for Joe doughnuts tenure. D has been near the best. Any idiot knows the 1st round pick last yr had to go offense. But if you are 1 of the worst gms in the NFL, only then is your pick the position you are already deepest at. 

Totally agree.  Can you imagine how you would feel if you were Huff coming off a good season and preparing diligently for his contract year.   Man they gotta get me out of this nine man rotation and make me an every down player because I have earned it.   The Jets plan?  Let’s add another man to the rotation with our first round pick since according to our totally rigid scheme we have determined the optimal play time for each lineman (regardless of their talent level) is 54.76374%.   At the same time Garrett Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are at home just shaking their head and commiserating about the clueless organization they are stuck with.  

[JiFtheOracle]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Should have traded him at the deadline but noooooooo

Probably the most damning part of this news.  JD's handing of situations and timing on certain things are so way off and miscalculated, that you truly have to wonder wtf he actually does once the draft is over.  It's like, as soon as he got rid of Big Mac's players, he took his foot of the gas and just expected to hit a homerun in every draft.  

 

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Should have traded him at the deadline but noooooooo

Unless JD plans to re-sign him, it made no sense to not trade him. 

[Bleedin Green]

18 minutes ago, JustInFudge said:

Probably the most damning part of this news.  JD's handing of situations and timing on certain things are so way off and miscalculated, that you truly have to wonder wtf he actually does once the draft is over.  It's like, as soon as he got rid of Big Mac's players, he took his foot of the gas and just expected to hit a homerun in every draft.  

 

The part that makes this even more comical is in addition to the most talked about guys today of Huff, JJ, and McD, we so quickly dismiss that the Jets still had JFM as their established starter along with one of JD's "prized" FA signings of Carl Lawson getting paid $6M to be inactive for nearly the entire year just in order to be able to get all those other guys the snaps that they even got.

Meanwhile, half of the positions on this team are still completely bereft of any talent.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

2 hours ago, JustInFudge said:

Pretty damning, you have to wonder how many other guys feel this way?  We know Quinnen was upset w/ being pulled last year.

Now that said, Huff is feeling himself, understandably but the data says he's not good vs. the run.  The Jets gave him 141 snaps of 1st down this year (22 last year).  When Huff is the line-up on a run,  the Jets give up 5.3 ypc, when on the sidelines during a run, that average drops to 3.6 ypc.  

I understand Huff desires but I also understand why he was treated a specialist. 

 

I remember Quinnen was talking with Parsons after Dallas game and Parsons was talking about Quinnens playing time. That he’s too good to be coming out. And Q was just like “it’s outta my control”. 

Pretty dumb. I can see the rotation argument with guys like Huff. But your elite guys? Makes no sense. 

[Beerfish]

So the herd of Caribou Jets fans has now shifted into being critical of the jets for their over rotation of players?

What a change from the past.

[carlito1171]

Huff's replacement is already on the roster....drafted for 2024 and beyond when we could have used more immediate help.....

I believe it's over. He's put enough plays out there that someone will think they are getting a player who will grow into an elite edge on a discount relative to what those guys are paid. 

[Jets Voice of Reason]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Should have traded him at the deadline but noooooooo

That would have required foresight. 

[Rob Moore]

2 hours ago, SickJetFan said:

I believe it was Gregg Williams who played Huff and gave him his chance

GW was his defensive coordinator for a whole 12 games.  Yes he gave him his chance but he developed and was coached up by Saleh and staff over the years.

I know it’s not cool to give our current regime any type of credit for anything bc the board mentality is that they are the worst at everything, but cmon. Give credit where it’s due.

[extmenace]

Is this quote really surprising? It’s why many of us think there is a very small chance he’ll be back. It’s not him either, it’s the system here. His pressures will be missed but really can’t invest top dollar in him based on how heavy we rotate the DL. The McDonald pick was really the beginning of the end. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to put more money into that position. He’ll be tagged and will be shopped. This team either protected him from being exposed or they didn’t use him enough. The next team paying him will find out. Glad to see the UDFA will get a nice pay day. Wish him the best of luck at his next stop, I’ll be rooting for him.

[SickJetFan]

58 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Unless JD plans to re-sign him, it made no sense to not trade him. 

I think JD was probably holding out trying to get more than Huff was worth at the time to other teams.  JD probably left trades on the table much like he did with Mims.  I think that whole Adams trade in beginning of JD career here kind of messed up his head thinking he could fleece everyone with every trade where a 4th rounder for Huff was too little for him.

I always thought JD was trying to play the comp pick formula but that doesnt work if you have to constantly pay for FAs like he has.

I think yet again JD may get nothing in return.

 

[Bugg]

3 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

sounds like he’s gone !

Huff sees a team with a mess of DL guys that drafted McDonald and knows he can do better elsewhere. Failure to self scout rears it head yet again. 

[Augustiniak]

4 minutes ago, extmenace said:

Is this quote really surprising? It’s why many of us think there is a very small chance he’ll be back. It’s not him either, it’s the system here. His pressures will be missed but really can’t invest top dollar in him based on how heavy we rotate the DL. The McDonald pick was really the beginning of the end. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to put more money into that position. He’ll be tagged and will be shopped. This team either protected him from being exposed or they didn’t use him enough. The next team paying him will find out. Glad to see the UDFA will get a nice pay day. Wish him the best of luck at his next stop, I’ll be rooting for him.

They knew huff was going to ask for a fortune and they didn’t want to invest that money in him, wisely.  Hopefully they throw it to the offense. 

[TuscanyTile2]

3 minutes ago, SickJetFan said:

I think JD was probably holding out trying to get more than Huff was worth at the time to other teams.  JD probably left trades on the table much like he did with Mims.  I think that whole Adams trade in beginning of JD career here kind of messed up his head thinking he could fleece everyone with every trade where a 4th rounder for Huff was too little for him.

I always thought JD was trying to play the comp pick formula but that doesnt work if you have to constantly pay for FAs like he has.

I think yet again JD may get nothing in return.

I think I heard something about us not getting a comp pick because we didn't draft him.

[SickJetFan]

5 minutes ago, Rob Moore said:

GW was his defensive coordinator for a whole 12 games.  Yes he gave him his chance but he developed and was coached up by Saleh and staff over the years.

I know it’s not cool to give our current regime any type of credit for anything bc the board mentality is that they are the worst at everything, but cmon. Give credit where it’s due.

Saleh and co were probably very close to cutting him this off season.  They had Huff play all 4 games and late in those games (in ohio as well) not worried about injury and using him as camp body. 

[SickJetFan]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I think I heard something about us not getting a comp pick because we didn't draft him.

maybe but what I said is still true - he is always trying to get more than worth until things fall apart

[playtowinthegame]

What kind of comp pick do the Jets get when he signs with the Steelers? 

[extmenace]

8 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

They knew huff was going to ask for a fortune and they didn’t want to invest that money in him, wisely.  Hopefully they throw it to the offense. 

I mean his stats say that hes a very good pass rusher. NFL teams pay up for these kind of guys. There would of been a much better shot of retaining him if the first round went a little differently last year, as in they drafted the WR JSN or some how figured out a way to trade down and grabbed an O-linemen. Once McDonald became the pick, they basically drafted his replacement. This is one of the few occasions in recent history that this team actually developed a player and we're going to lose him. Good players at every position hit FA all the time, I just think this fan base isn't used to this happening to us so a lot of people just don't want to accept it. 

[extmenace]

5 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

What kind of comp pick do the Jets get when he signs with the Steelers? 

He'll be tagged and traded. I think worst case is a 3rd since that's likely what we'd receive as a comp pick in 2025. A second or somehow pulling off a player for player swap at OL or WR would be a lot better. Huff will get a bunch of interest, we'll have to see what JD can do with that interest.

 

[Jetsplayer21]

1 hour ago, ChewyandtheJets said:

Totally agree.  Can you imagine how you would feel if you were Huff coming off a good season and preparing diligently for his contract year.   Man they gotta get me out of this nine man rotation and make me an every down player because I have earned it.   The Jets plan?  Let’s add another man to the rotation with our first round pick since according to our totally rigid scheme we have determined the optimal play time for each lineman (regardless of their talent level) is 54.76374%.   At the same time Garrett Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are at home just shaking their head and commiserating about the clueless organization they are stuck with.  

Exactly. Especially if you know your offense has been 1 of the worst, if not the worst offense in the last 5 years under Joe Douglas. If your huff you must say “ wow, as historically bad the other side of the ball is, they yet still felt my position was a bigger need ?  If the offense was actually in a good spot and you say “ hey we just added depth because we are already good all around.” But that is clearly not the case. 

[Warfish]

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Bryce Huff: “I want to find a scheme that uses me as an every down player”

And pays him accordingly to do it.

Of course he does.  Duh.

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

Best pass rusher on the team and the HC can't find a way to use him as an every down player.

Amazing to me.

Because he’s not an every down player

[Warfish]

Just now, extmenace said:

He'll be traded. I think worst case is a 3rd since that's likely what we'd receive as a comp pick in 2025. A second or somehow pulling off a player for player swap at OL or WR would be a lot better. Huff will get a bunch of interest, we'll have to see what JD can do with that interest.

 

He's a UFA at season end.  There is no trade.  

[FTL Jet Fan]

Did we really expect any other outcome. 

[extmenace]

3 minutes ago, Warfish said:

He's a UFA at season end.  There is no trade.  

He's getting tagged. There is nobody else that even deserves consideration. I dont think they'll just let him walk.

[section314]

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

Best pass rusher on the team and the HC can't find a way to use him as an every down player.

Amazing to me.

It must be a requirement to be a dope to coach on this staff. Our great OC didn’t have a clue  that Breece could be a weapon in the passing game. This is by far the worst organization, from top to bottom, in pro sports. 

[Augustiniak]

8 minutes ago, extmenace said:

He'll be tagged and traded. I think worst case is a 3rd since that's likely what we'd receive as a comp pick in 2025. A second or somehow pulling off a player for player swap at OL or WR would be a lot better. Huff will get a bunch of interest, we'll have to see what JD can do with that interest.

 

I agree he will eventually be traded.  No way was douglas going to pay top dollar for a guy they used as a situational pass rusher when they had other guys who could do it for cheaper.  

[Bleedin Green]

2 minutes ago, extmenace said:

He's getting tagged. There is nobody else that even deserves consideration. I dont think they'll just let him walk.

I'm sure that's what they would like to do, but only problem there is they need to find $23M+ in cap space to do that, plus if they can't fire off a trade on day one of the league year, then they need to free up even more money on top of that to do anything in FA, which other teams would absolutely use against the Jets (both in trade negotiations for Huff, and those bidding for the same FAs the Jets try to get).

They're just not in a particularly good position for a move like that this year.

[sec101row23]

2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

I agree he will eventually be traded.  No way was douglas going to pay top dollar for a guy they used as a situational pass rusher when they had other guys who could do it for cheaper.  

There are guys who can do it cheaper for sure, but can they do it as well?   Losing Huff will hurt this defense, I’m not convinced MacDonald will play as effectively.   You don’t want to pay Huff, fine, but his play will be missed.   It’s another reason why this defense isn’t a “given” for next year.  

[slimjasi]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Should have traded him at the deadline but noooooooo

You were right

[neckdemon]

3 hours ago, JustInFudge said:

Ouch!

Shots fired!

I guess thatss why Huff hasnt received a new contract.  He doesnt wany to play for Saleh.

saleh's scheme is kinda sh*t. thes eplayers should have been a much better defense. it's the scheme. our coaches suck. they didn't even know breece hall could catch the ball

[Dunnie]

Reason #100000000,000000000 to fire these clowns but no
lets wait until they chase sauce and Garrett away too

Complete joke org that nobody should be defending anymore 

Garrett has already slinked in a couple soft hints of escape in the future.

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