Huff to the Eagles

[Darnold's Forehead]

This team’s treatment of him drove me insane.  2 years ago I was saying he was the best pass rusher we had behind Q, and time after time again he was stinted by the CS.  Clearly Saleh did not believe in him for whatever reason.  They wanted to go through “their process” and draft guys over him.  Huff’s play time was always limited despite flashing every time he was on the field, and the CS had him playing into the 4th quarter in the Hall of Fame game this year.

More pedigree BS.  McDonald was a stupid pick and a complete waste of proven, premium resources.  I can’t wait for Huff’s performance to match McDonald’s & JJ’s combined this season.

[neckdemon]

2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

When and for what? 

Trade deadline when he was turning down trade offers for him

[BCJet]

Do we know what the Eagles are thinking when respect to Hassan Reddick?  He has one year and $15 million left on his contract and is a similar player to huff as far as size. 

Now they have to trade Reddick with no leverage?    

[JetPotato]

48 minutes ago, Ruby2 said:

Where is the exaggeration? Did I miss some other time we had a UDFA get a 10 sack season?

If I'm not mistaken I think the last Jets EDGE to get double digit sacks was JAbe no?

We really never had this, at least not in this modern era of Jets ineptitude. Thats what makes it sting so much.

I'm not hoping on the zomggg Douglas sucks train, but this is bad no matter how you look at it. You don't let 25 year old pass rushers go...period.

None of this is correct.

[JetPotato]

34 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

Fans that are used to watching an offense average < 10 pts per game tend to overvalue decent DL players...

Yep. All for mocking this organization up and down.

In this case, the mistake laid in not trading him. Now that he's on the open market, letting him walk is the right move, 100%.

It's weird people thinks it matters he was an UDFA. He's not that now. He's a $20M player. Let someone else pay it. McDonald is cheaper and likely better.

[bicketybam]

Damn McDonald had better turn out to be Von Miller. Hate that we lost Huff.

Why because Huff was?

[Ruby2]

3 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

None of this is correct.

Ok then.

[Claymation]

[C Mart]

2 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

Good.

comp pick ensuing 

Nick Korte @nickkorte

At just over $17M APY, that's good for a 4th round 2025 compensatory pick on the board to the Jets for Bryce Huff going to Philly.

His contract should be right in the middle of the 4th round regardless of snap counts.

Jason_OTC @Jason_OTC
I would guess that Huff would be the 4th round comp pick range. Probably depends on how much he plays with the Eagles.

[C Mart]

11 minutes ago, neckdemon said:

Trade deadline when he was turning down trade offers for him

When the Jets were 4-3...What were the offers?  What round?

[hawk]

19 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

Today is simply a culmination of a long string of previous mistakes the Jets made regarding Huff. 

It's something many saw coming and it still stings that it has now come to its expected conclusion. 

I don't think many are arguing that the Jets should have overpaid for him this free agency.  Instead, they're arguing they should have known what they had and signed him last year when they had some real leverage.

The same logic of not overpaying for a pass rush specialist should carryover to not drafting a pass rush specialist in round 1.  That's what many thought Will McDonald was coming into the league and saying he's anything more than that right now is wishful thinking.

No one knows what the conversation behind the scenes is.  Maybe the Jets wanted him back.  Maybe they gave him the choice to go out and see what he could with a handshake agreement for a chance to match versus a franchise tag and restructure/trade.

More than likely, Huff wanted a role as an every down player, which he knew he wasnt getting in NY.

 

[bitonti]

29 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Because tagging him was the simple solution 

I'm not sure there's a real Huff tag and trade market out there

it's possible but also possible they'd have to eat the tag and pay Huff 21 mil for 1 year where he'd be part time again

 

[mfmartin]

Yep. All for mocking this organization up and down.
In this case, the mistake laid in not trading him. Now that he's on the open market, letting him walk is the right move, 100%.
It's weird people thinks it matters he was an UDFA. He's not that now. He's a $20M player. Let someone else pay it. McDonald is cheaper and likely better.

Likely better ok..


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[bitonti]

11 minutes ago, BCJet said:

Do we know what the Eagles are thinking when respect to Hassan Reddick?  He has one year and $15 million left on his contract and is a similar player to huff as far as size. 

Now they have to trade Reddick with no leverage?    

yes they are also willing to trade Josh sweat 

 

[slats]

35 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Because tagging him was the simple solution 

Yes, because placing a $22M franchise tag on a part time player who just signed a three year deal that averages $17M/year would’ve been a brilliant decision, especially when your team has less than $22M in cap space. Yeah, that’s the sort of move that gets applauded around the league. 

[#27TheDominator]

1 minute ago, slats said:

Yes, because placing a $22M franchise tag on a part time player who just signed a three year deal that averages $17M/year would’ve been a brilliant decision, especially when your team has less than $22M in cap space. Yeah, that’s the sort of move that gets applauded around the league. 

It's still simple.  Being dumb does not make it any less simple.

[peekskill68]

19 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

Yep. All for mocking this organization up and down.

In this case, the mistake laid in not trading him. Now that he's on the open market, letting him walk is the right move, 100%.

It's weird people thinks it matters he was an UDFA. He's not that now. He's a $20M player. Let someone else pay it. McDonald is cheaper and likely better.

Agree.  McD was picked specifically to replace Huff, not split reps with him.  No idea why JD didn't just trade him before the deadline knowing the season was toast when Rodgers went down...

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, slats said:

Yes, because placing a $22M franchise tag on a part time player who just signed a three year deal that averages $17M/year would’ve been a brilliant decision, especially when your team has less than $22M in cap space. Yeah, that’s the sort of move that gets applauded around the league. 

I didn’t realize it was your money. Sorry.

[slats]

1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

I didn’t realize it was your money. Sorry.

Yeah well, now you know

[C Mart]

3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

It's still simple.  Being dumb does not make it any less simple.

So then they can't sign any FAs???  I believe when you tag, that amount comes off your available cap.

[Beerfish]

21 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

Yep. All for mocking this organization up and down.

In this case, the mistake laid in not trading him. Now that he's on the open market, letting him walk is the right move, 100%.

It's weird people thinks it matters he was an UDFA. He's not that now. He's a $20M player. Let someone else pay it. McDonald is cheaper and likely better.

Talk like this might make sense if they are not paying a friggin ilb who only makes tackles like 17 million a year.

McDonald, if he gets huff playing time will be no better than Huff or any more productive.   When your D philosophy is to keep players on the bench for over 50% of their snaps you get less out of them.

[Matt39]

6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

It's still simple.  Being dumb does not make it any less simple.

Not bringing back your best pass rusher when your QB is 40 years old is actually good. we are at the point in the Jets cycle now.
 

 

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, slats said:

Yeah well, now you know

Are we trying to win games or get applause around the league by being shrewd with the salary cap while losing games? 

[Smashmouth]

Didn't read the thread was this 100% confirmed ?

Did Huff give the Jets the option to match ?

IMHO if Huff did not give the Jets a chance to counter that's one thing but if he did then I'll put it on JD and the Idiot Jets

[FidelioJet]

I find the shock and anger here borderline comical.  

The second JD reached for a 2nd round prospect was the second Huff was gone.   

It was an absurd decision - but the shock at this point is ridiculous.  
last year was literally the worst off season I’ve ever seen from an NFL GM. 

[slats]

13 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Not bringing back your best pass rusher when your QB is 40 years old is actually good. we are at the point in the Jets cycle now.

Jets defense is really good, and a guy who was on the field 42% of the time was not the straw that stirred the drink. They have a quality replacement for him on the roster in McDonald, and the offense is a black hole. If you choose to apply any sort of logic, there is no reasonable argument for spending all of the team’s cap room on a part time defensive player -especially a player who signed for far less per year than the tag’s value- when the offense needs help all over. 
 
If you want to complain about not trading him before the deadline last year, or resigning him the year before; cool, I get that. But overpaying a part time defensive player instead of investing in the offense at this time? That would’ve been dumb. 

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, slats said:

Jets defense is really good, and a guy who was on the field 42% of the time was not the straw that stirred the drink. They have a quality replacement for him on the roster in McDonald, and the offense is a black hole. If you choose to apply any sort of logic, there is no reasonable argument for spending all of the team’s cap room on a part time defensive player -especially a player who signed for far less per year than the tag’s value- when the offense needs help all over. 
 
If you want to complain about not trading him before the deadline last year, or resigning him the year before; cool, I get that. But overpaying a part time defensive player instead of investing in the offense at this time? That would’ve been dumb. 

I was suggesting tagging him because this is an all in season. 

[slats]

1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

I was suggesting tagging him because this is an all in season. 

So in an “all in season,” THE NEW YORK JETS should spend all of their spare cap room on a part time defensive player? That’s what you think would be the smart thing? Asking for a friend. 

[FidelioJet]

5 minutes ago, slats said:

Jets defense is really good, and a guy who was on the field 42% of the time was not the straw that stirred the drink. They have a quality replacement for him on the roster in McDonald, and the offense is a black hole. If you choose to apply any sort of logic, there is no reasonable argument for spending all of the team’s cap room on a part time defensive player -especially a player who signed for far less per year than the tag’s value- when the offense needs help all over. 
 
If you want to complain about not trading him before the deadline last year, or resigning him the year before; cool, I get that. But overpaying a part time defensive player instead of investing in the offense at this time? That would’ve been dumb. 

Yes. Of course.  Now it was the only decision they could make. The problem was taking McD in the first place.  

[#27TheDominator]

22 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Not bringing back your best pass rusher when your QB is 40 years old is actually good. we are at the point in the Jets cycle now.
 

 

I have watched Bryce Huff for four years.  I liked him as an UDFA.  He was a nice find.  Color me unimpressed at $51M.  I would join the chorus calling for these guy's head if they'd tagged him. The D will be fine.  The pass rush will be fine. 

[SickJetFan]

Well at least Saleh gets another baked in excuse for next season if he defense falters.  I am sure he is compiling lists of other HCs who have experienced the same loss as we speak..

 

(even tho he had huff play every single pre-season game into 4th Q last summer - even the garbage time dedicated to future USP drivers)

 

[bicketybam]

Well at least Saleh gets another baked in excuse for next season if he defense falters.  I am sure he is compiling lists of other HCs who have experienced the same loss as we speak..
 
(even tho he had huff play every single pre-season game into 4th Q last summer - even the garbage time dedicated to future USP drivers)
 

I too am fake outraged.

[Matt39]

8 minutes ago, slats said:

So in an “all in season,” THE NEW YORK JETS should spend all of their spare cap room on a part time defensive player? That’s what you think would be the smart thing? Asking for a friend. 

Yes because he rushes the passer 

[Smashmouth]

2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

I have watched Bryce Huff for four years.  I liked him as an UDFA.  He was a nice find.  Color me unimpressed at $51M.  I would join the chorus calling for these guy's head if they'd tagged him. The D will be fine.  The pass rush will be fine. 

People also forget Huff has been hurt a lot as well and he is NOT and every down player. I like Huff but he's a luxury as a part time player and we have needs in much more important areas like the OL and WR to help our QB get sh*t done. Our D will still be really good and McDonald might just pan out ...Lets see what shape he comes into camp 

[T0mShane]

You’re 4-3 at the trade deadline and you just beat the Eagles despite Zach Wilson giving you next to nothing at the QB position. Woody (according to Josina Anderson) refused to let Douglas add a viable veteran QB, and at that point they needed to know that the season was going nowhere. Holding on to Huff at that point made zero sense. He was a plug and play situational pass rusher that would have helped any contending team down the stretch, but the Jets sat on him for literally no reason because, clearly, they never, ever intended to re-sign him at any point. There is no one in charge of the New York Jets. It’s a pack of Peter-Principled idiots with no plan and no foresight operating in an accountability-free environment entirely devoid of leadership.