#27TheDominator Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You’re 4-3 at the trade deadline and you just beat the Eagles despite Zach Wilson giving you next to nothing at the QB position. Woody (according to Josina Anderson) refused to let Douglas add a viable veteran QB, and at that point they needed to know that the season was going nowhere. Holding on to Huff at that point made zero sense. He was a plug and play situational pass rusher that would have helped any contending team down the stretch, but the Jets sat on him for literally no reason because, clearly, they never, ever intended to re-sign him at any point. There is no one in charge of the New York Jets. It’s a pack of Peter-Principled idiots with no plan and no foresight operating in an accountability-free environment entirely devoid of leadership. Eh. A 2024 4th vs a 2025 3rd or 4th and you get Huff for the rest of the year at 4-3. It's not the no brainer you chuckleheads act like it was. People act like Douglas was turning down multiple 1st rounders it's ******* ridiculous. They do a lot wrong and some things right and this board wants to complain about what they are doing right. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 36 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Talk like this might make sense if they are not paying a friggin ilb who only makes tackles like 17 million a year. McDonald, if he gets huff playing time will be no better than Huff or any more productive. When your D philosophy is to keep players on the bench for over 50% of their snaps you get less out of them. Mosley has nothing to do with Huff. You don't make this decision based on a different player with different circumstances, role and contract. I don't have a crystal ball, but I'll make it prediction now: McDonald is going to have a bigger impact than Huff. He'll be more diverse player that can play a larger % of snaps. Teams are going to have to pick and choose who they block at times. With Huff, the choice was always one of the 2 other guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You’re 4-3 at the trade deadline and you just beat the Eagles despite Zach Wilson giving you next to nothing at the QB position. Woody (according to Josina Anderson) refused to let Douglas add a viable veteran QB, and at that point they needed to know that the season was going nowhere. Holding on to Huff at that point made zero sense. He was a plug and play situational pass rusher that would have helped any contending team down the stretch, but the Jets sat on him for literally no reason because, clearly, they never, ever intended to re-sign him at any point. There is no one in charge of the New York Jets. It’s a pack of Peter-Principled idiots with no plan and no foresight operating in an accountability-free environment entirely devoid of leadership. Imagine if they were able to do that and get even a 5th rounder out of the deal. Maybe they would have lost more games and we would be picking 3rd or 4th in the draft. The big loser in all that would have been Saleh...prob would have been let go... So at least we get to keep Saleh... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Eh. A 2024 4th vs a 2025 3rd or 4th and you get Huff for the rest of the year at 4-3. It's not the no brainer you chuckleheads act like it was. People act like Douglas was turning down multiple 1st rounders it's ******* ridiculous. They do a lot wrong and some things right and this board wants to complain about what they are doing right. They’re getting a 2025 4th comp pick—which is essentially a fifth rounder—for zero reason. Huff was a dirt-cheap, young add for a contender at the deadline with an elite PRWR. That was a valuable chip and they’re getting nothing for it in a year where they need every asset they can get. They needed to find McDonald snaps anyway. Made zero sense at the time, and looks worse now. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Mosley has nothing to do with Huff. You don't make this decision based on a different player with different circumstances, role and contract. I don't have a crystal ball, but I'll make it prediction now: McDonald is going to have a bigger impact than Huff. He'll be more diverse player that can play a larger % of snaps. Teams are going to have to pick and choose who they block at times. With Huff, the choice was always one of the 2 other guys. Yes he has a lot to do with Huff. You have a salary structure you have priorities, you decide what is more valuable to your team and who should be paid and who should not be paid. The Jets and Joe Douglas leading up to this year decided to keep a massively priced ILB over a budding pas rusher. Hey Huff was gone becasue the jets thought he as a high effort 4 sack guy and they drafted mcdonad because they panicked at the last draft. Then part time Huff goes out and gets 10 sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Hugh Douglas Ii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Yes he has a lot to do with Huff. You have a salary structure you have priorities, you decide what is more valuable to your team and who should be paid and who should not be paid. The Jets and Joe Douglas leading up to this year decided to keep a massively priced ILB over a budding pas rusher. Hey Huff was gone becasue the jets thought he as a high effort 4 sack guy and they drafted mcdonad because they panicked at the last draft. Then part time Huff goes out and gets 10 sacks. Looking forward to revisiting this in a year and two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Jets, as always, are listless and run by smooth brains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papz187 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 You may very well be right. Again, the move (if it was going to be made) was to re-sign him last offseason. We knew he was gone this offseason. As far as this offseason, we need to allocate $$ on the offensive side of the ball.Exactly, this is no surprise.It is still a tough pill to swallow, especially knowing the amount of money Lazzard, Lawson and Uzomah are taking up cap wise.Sent from my SM-F731U using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, C Mart said: When the Jets were 4-3...What were the offers? What round? idk i'm not Joe Douglas. but idc what their record was. anyone with half a brain knew they weren't winning a damn thing and Douglas for sure should have known that re-signing huff was highly unlikely. Douglas is a Fat sh*t of a Gm who dropped the ball yet again. Be prepared for major disappointment this off-season.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, hawk said: No one knows what the conversation behind the scenes is. Maybe the Jets wanted him back. Maybe they gave him the choice to go out and see what he could with a handshake agreement for a chance to match versus a franchise tag and restructure/trade. More than likely, Huff wanted a role as an every down player, which he knew he wasnt getting in NY. Yep, fair points. Then based on 2023 discussions where he indicated he wasn’t going to sign here long term, the Jets should have traded him at the deadline. Now they might not get anything in return as they are NOT even guaranteed a 2025 4th rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, bitonti said: I'm not sure there's a real Huff tag and trade market out there it's possible but also possible they'd have to eat the tag and pay Huff 21 mil for 1 year where he'd be part time again This is a must win season with a QB who is year to year. Who cares what you’re paying him? He’s the best 3rd down rusher on the team. Unless the plan was to deal Aaron Rodgers and start over - you bring back your pass rushing specialist. If McDonald is better than great, move on next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: This is a must win season with a QB who is year to year. Who cares what you’re paying him? He’s the best 3rd down rusher on the team. Unless the plan was to deal Aaron Rodgers and start over - you bring back your pass rushing specialist. If McDonald is better than great, move on next year. losing huff isn't really the problem. i thik mcdonald can take his place and put up, say minimum 8 sacks. the problem is losing him, knowing you are gonna likely lose him, and getting nothing for it until maybe a conditional pick next year. Douglas has proven time and again that he is a buffoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, neckdemon said: losing huff isn't really the problem. i thik mcdonald can take his place and put up, say minimum 8 sacks. the problem is losing him, knowing you are gonna likely lose him, and getting nothing for it until maybe a conditional pick next year. Douglas has proven time and again that he is a buffoon The coach is married to this rotation whether you’re getting paid what Quinnen makes or if you’re making the vet min. Huff and McDonald were always going to be on the rotation. They went from having 3 edge rushers to having 2. To what? Sign a guard and a receiver to make up for flushing money on Lazard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Yikes so many of you think huff is so great and we were stupid to let him go. I don't think he is worth that money nor that he can't be replaced easily. Sorry all the best to him but we won by not over paying a limited pass rusher. Eagles are just like the Seahawks in this trade. Much like Adams , huff was productive because of the system not on just talent. He is likeable and good team mate etc but not worth paying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The coach is married to this rotation whether you’re getting paid what Quinnen makes or if you’re making the vet min. Huff and McDonald were always going to be on the rotation. They went from having 3 edge rushers to having 2. To what? Sign a guard and a receiver to make up for flushing money on Lazard? problem is though that we need the huff money to sign somebody, anybody to help try to put any life at all into our dead offense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, neckdemon said: problem is though that we need the huff money to sign somebody, anybody to help try to put any life at all into our dead offense That’s what bringing in AR was for! The issue is Douglas has drafted too many busts and has whiffed on practically every FA signing and now we are at the point these mistakes are costing the Jets to lose some of their good players. Typically GM’s don’t have this long of a leash. The other issue is the Jets gave him 6 years of guaranteed money and Woody isn’t paying two GM’s. Alas the current situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: That’s what bringing in AR was for! The issue is Douglas has drafted too many busts and has whiffed on practically every FA signing and now we are at the point these mistakes are costing the Jets to lose some of their good players. Typically GM’s don’t have this long of a leash. The other issue is the Jets gave him 6 years of guaranteed money and Woody isn’t paying two GM’s. Alas the current situation. yeah but do you really think rodgers can function ata highg enough level with the absolutely crap oline we have? and we have one legit receiving threat not including our rb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, neckdemon said: yeah but do you really think rodgers can function ata highg enough level with the absolutely crap oline we have? and we have one legit receiving threat not including our rb The oline rebounded nicely once Simien was actually named the full time starter to end the year. Zach was worse than anyone even realizes. The Jets are obviously taking a tackle with 10 overall too. AVT will either play left or right tackle. Fill in the guards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, Maxman said: What if they developed him and got him to the point he is today. He was an undrafted free agent. His production is a success story. I would think the staff would deserve credit for that. exactley!! they developed Huff, and now QW the LB and Johnson is coming along just fine. people love to knock Saleh on this board but one thing i know he can do is run a defense. if they let Huff go there is a reason and i think we are going to be fine. some on here say that if Saleh is so good then why waste resources on the defense when he should be able to do it with lesser talent. well he just freed up some money to use on the offense. this place makes me laugh sometimes. sign Huff for 20 mil, then spend about 30 mil on 2 OL and hopefully draft a 3rd. oh and we should make a trade for a WR who is going to cost another 15-18 mil. guys think were playing Madden here. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: jets not spending on FA's is not indicative of a mess...just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, k-met57 said: jets not spending on FA's is not indicative of a mess...just sayin. We knew they were a mess already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Hugh Douglas Ii John Riggins, Jon Abraham, Jon Vilma, James Farrior, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, k-met57 said: jets not spending on FA's is not indicative of a mess...just sayin. Agreed. But the fans being upset at the team and management shows Russini's point is a bit ridiculous though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The oline rebounded nicely once Simien was actually named the full time starter to end the year. Zach was worse than anyone even realizes. The Jets are obviously taking a tackle with 10 overall too. AVT will either play left or right tackle. Fill in the guards. you think AVT can be relied on? he might just be injury prone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 The Jets org decision was not to pay Huff but instead use it on other players like possibly Mosley etc. As for inactivity so far many teams usually the smarter ones wait through free agency and get better deals on good team players. Looks like the Giants are going big in signing star players for big money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I believe Arron Rogers is calling the shots he wants all the cap space for his guys I'm expecting Bakhtiari to be signed to a 12 million a year contract because that's what Arron Rogers wants. All you guys that wanted Arron Rogers will finally see why this was the biggest mistake this team ever made why this team will continue to regress to the point of being cellar team within 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, neckdemon said: you think AVT can be relied on? he might just be injury prone No one on the Jets can be relied upon lol. But yet here we are letting the teams best edge rusher who’s 25 leave and are banking on someone else to fill that role on a roster that has to win right away because the quarterback is 40. The Jets are a better team with Huff on the roster. Point blank end of story. If the plan was to trade Rodgers then totally different. 2024 is all in. A FA guard is not moving the needle like a 25 year old edge. The cost of the tag does not matter because the Jets have no choice but to win in 2024. we can let people filibuster about the cap mumbo jumbo but the Jets current situation is as simple as it gets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Agreed. But the fans being upset at the team and management shows Russini's point is a bit ridiculous though. i don't expect anything from her. if she was a man, shed be Manish....untalented, click bait artist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 hours ago, Columbia Jet Fan said: Breer is a mouthpiece for the coaching staff/front office. And no one but the Jets is responsible for their lack of wiggle room. It’s an indictment, not an excuse or reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I believe Arron Rogers is calling the shots he wants all the cap space for his guys I'm expecting Bakhtiari to be signed to a 12 million a year contract because that's what Arron Rogers wants. All you guys that wanted Arron Rogers will finally see why this was the biggest mistake this team ever made why this team will continue to regress to the point of being cellar team within 2 years.Learn how to spell his ******* name at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 11 minutes ago, nyjets1969 said: I believe Arron Rogers is calling the shots he wants all the cap space for his guys I'm expecting Bakhtiari to be signed to a 12 million a year contract because that's what Arron Rogers wants. All you guys that wanted Arron Rogers will finally see why this was the biggest mistake this team ever made why this team will continue to regress to the point of being cellar team within 2 years. Learn how to spell his ******* name at least. His name is Robert Paulson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 45 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: Yikes so many of you think huff is so great and we were stupid to let him go. I don't think he is worth that money nor that he can't be replaced easily. Sorry all the best to him but we won by not over paying a limited pass rusher. Eagles are just like the Seahawks in this trade. Much like Adams , huff was productive because of the system not on just talent. He is likeable and good team mate etc but not worth paying Not the same thing; one is a premium pass rusher, and the other is a safety. And the Jets actually got valuable assets from letting Adams go and got zilch from Huff. Let's not get it twisted. Unless Will McDonalds lights the league on fire this upcoming season, the Jets pass rush just got a whole lot worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 LOL Fire Joe Douglas. Zero offers in-season to extend Huff. If Joe Douglas says he wants to keep you around, it means you’re gone… Yet, Huff never felt like the Jets truly wanted to keep him. The organization didn’t present Huff or his agents with any contract offers during the 2023 season, even as he started to break out and become an impactful pass rusher at 25 years old. They let him hit free agency without putting up much of a fight, and Monday he agreed to a three-year dealwith the Philadelphia Eagles. Team sources confirmed to The Athletic the deal is worth a maximum of $51.1 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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