Reddicks’s Agent Fires Him

[Green Ghost]

8 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Sure there is.

They will try to trade him, but if they can't get decent comp, they will absolutely dance this dance again.

There is more drama about this amongst fans and the media. I honestly don't think this is having much of an impact inside the building.

Let him rot. Do not give in. It doesn't harm anyone or anything besides for Reddick.

Yeah. Tie up another $15 mil in cap space for nothing instead of signing FA’s or re signing/extending our own.

That makes a lot  of sense. 😂

[Maynard13]

1 hour ago, Vader said:

 

Keep the world alive

[Cyberjet]

Rogers strikes again

[DoubleDown]

6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Yeah. Tie up another $15 mil in cap space for nothing instead of signing FA’s or re signing our own.

That makes a lot  of sense. 😂

I'm no cap expert, but Over the Cap has Reddick's cap number at 750K in 2024 and 0 in 2025.

In any case I don't think that is a driving force in this situation. If it was, JD would have caved a long time ago.

[Asymmetrical]

54 minutes ago, victorjets said:

 

It’s a 2026 third-round pick… and IF he signs next year as free agent, we might even get a compensatory pick


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yeah my point is this team looks like it's going to be bad in 2025 and will probably have use for a high 3. I don't know what the comp situation is/will be but assuming it evens out, we're talking about the best case scenario for this trade being..nothing? He never plays, leaves and we move down from the top of the 3rd for the trouble? Seems dumb

[EM31]

Agents wanna get paid too and they also want to be able to show off to their other clients.

[Barry McCockinner]

4 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

I'm no cap expert, but Over the Cap has Reddick's cap number at 750K in 2024 and 0 in 2025.

In any case I don't think that is a driving force in this situation. If it was, JD would have caved a long time ago.

Pretty sure that's because he hasn't reported 

[Green Ghost]

12 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

I'm no cap expert, but Over the Cap has Reddick's cap number at 750K in 2024 and 0 in 2025.

In any case I don't think that is a driving force in this situation. If it was, JD would have caved a long time ago.

1. Reddick has one year left before he’s a FA. If he doesn’t report and the Jets do what you want them to do, his ‘24 contact rolls over. The Jets don’t magically get him for $750,000 on the cap for two years, 😂

2. JD’s career here is hanging by a thread. If he gets dumped, do you think the new GM will want to deal with his mess?

3. It will never come to either scenario though. The Jets will either trade or release him before next season if he doesn’t report no matter how many fans on a message board say “let him rot.”

[DoubleDown]

7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Pretty sure that's because he hasn't reported 

Yep. Which would be the same hypothetical situation next year.

Point being the Jets are absolutely ready to dance this same dance next year if need be.

[Barry McCockinner]

The 8% of JN who voted retire and become full time ninja may have been right.

[Green Ghost]

2 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Yep. Which would be the same hypothetical situation next year.

😂 No, it would not. 

Point being the Jets are absolutely ready to dance this same dance next year if need be.

😂 No, they would not.

 

[doitny]

am i the only one who thinks this is some coincidence this happend a day after Saleh got fired?

i know this board is 90% behind Saleh getting fired but most people ( NFL GMS, ex players and such ) call this a bad look and way too early. could they be right? i think so.

could it be Reddick told his Agent to get a deal done last week but after seeing this changed his mind. im not saying he had a love for Saleh but this was a bad time to do this. 

his agent probably said he worked so hard to get a deal done and he is almost there and now you change your mind...your fired.

as of now we look like we are cleaning house at the end of the year. who would want to come here now. i wouldn't be surprised if by next week you hear Adams took us off his list of teams he wants to go to.

[TokyoJetsFan]

2 hours ago, Larz said:

I recall reading that he can’t “cut a check” to pay his fines, it has to come from game checks. 
 

He’s getting close to playing for nothing.  
 

It sure feels like he’s not playing this year.  

If the fines are deducted after taxes he’s already playing for free

[Barry McCockinner]

51 minutes ago, doitny said:

am i the only one who thinks this is some coincidence this happend a day after Saleh got fired?

i know this board is 90% behind Saleh getting fired but most people ( NFL GMS, ex players and such ) call this a bad look and way too early. could they be right? i think so.

could it be Reddick told his Agent to get a deal done last week but after seeing this changed his mind. im not saying he had a love for Saleh but this was a bad time to do this. 

his agent probably said he worked so hard to get a deal done and he is almost there and now you change your mind...your fired.

as of now we look like we are cleaning house at the end of the year. who would want to come here now. i wouldn't be surprised if by next week you hear Adams took us off his list of teams he wants to go to.

I think it's more likely related to a potential Adams trade than Saleh being fired. JD may be cash strapped by Woody (preventing conversion of Adams 2024 contract to bonus) and be nagging red dicks agents to be reasonable and figure sh*t out one way or another. JD has a cap to deal with and a do or die season and this hold out is ridiculous at this point. The agents, wanting to be reasonable negotiators, protecting their reputation, could have just had enough knowing JD was right.

some preference of Saleh or not seems pretty unlikely imo. his goal is to get in the required games and get his next contract.

that said, hard to say he's thinking logically at this point.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

5 hours ago, Larz said:

 

 

I find an active player talking about another players contract situation like this very weird and off putting.

[BornJetsFan1983]

3 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

Why did Philly trade Reddick?

Is this a real question or some weird way for you to take a other shot at the jets?

They traded him for a second round pick.

[Bobby816]

4 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

We’re the ones who traded a 3rd for a guy who hasn’t shown up, said he wants to be traded, and have nothing to show for it.

Him being an idiot doesn’t mean the Jets are the geniuses here. 

No one said we’re geniuses here. But his side is the wrong one with over 10mill in fines already. Hes at a point here soon where if he waits for the last second to show up and play under this contract he currently has. That he’s playing this 1/2 season for free after his fines.

 

To me that’s a big idiot. We traded for a guy. Said we’d maybe rework his deal. But he had to show up for that to happen. He refused to show up. And now he’s getting fined. He has 0 leverage. And while we’re just 2-3…. That’s not bc of no pass rush. So yes him here would help. But he’s not the reason we have 3 losses. Our offense is.

[JKlecko]

6 hours ago, Larz said:

Isn’t there something significant about week 6? If he doesn’t report JD has his rights next year? Something?

He just has to be here for the last 6 games of the season to get credit for the season.

[JKlecko]

5 hours ago, RoadFan said:

Reddick is an A-hole.   4 teams in 5 years…

Eff Reddick.  I hope that he never plays a down in the NFL again!

[Bobby816]

To let you know…. Big agencies like CAA incredibly rarely let big name players go and stop representing them. So this is rare. Last 2 were Antonio brown and Johnny manziel. So think about that company.

[JKlecko]

4 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

I just told you. There’s no way the Jets dance this dance again.

They can trade him, release him, whatever.

They' not going to just release him.  They may trade him, but otherwise, I'll bet that he has pissed JD and Woody off so much that they will hold onto him, just to screw him and force him to have to report.  They own his ass.  If he doesn't ever report, he never plays another down in the NFL if the Jets don't trade him.

[JKlecko]

3 hours ago, doitny said:

am i the only one who thinks this is some coincidence this happend a day after Saleh got fired?

i know this board is 90% behind Saleh getting fired but most people ( NFL GMS, ex players and such ) call this a bad look and way too early. could they be right? i think so.

could it be Reddick told his Agent to get a deal done last week but after seeing this changed his mind. im not saying he had a love for Saleh but this was a bad time to do this. 

his agent probably said he worked so hard to get a deal done and he is almost there and now you change your mind...your fired.

as of now we look like we are cleaning house at the end of the year. who would want to come here now. i wouldn't be surprised if by next week you hear Adams took us off his list of teams he wants to go to.

Maybe not, but I think you're definitely in the minority.  Eff the other NFL GMs.  They probably just said that because they knew that as long as Saleh was here, the Jets weren't going to win sh*t.  They may have also said it because they like Saleh, but anyone who has paid any attention to how the Jets have played under Saleh and what their record is, totally understands why Saleh was fired now and that it was the right move for the Jets.

I sincerely doubt Reddick suddenly told his agents to get a deal done.  He wants to be traded.  He doesn't want to play for the Jets and that includes Saleh.

I'm surprised that his agents held onto him this long.  He's been a total dumbass and jerk.  I thought I had read 2-3 weeks ago that they had dumped him, but guess I dreamed it.

It's totally premature to say it looks like the Jets are cleaning house at the end of the year.  You're usually more reasonable than that.  I think we'll see a difference and perhaps even a big improvement in how the team plays under Ulbrich.  I think he will get the team playing hard and disciplined, and we'll see the offense be much less predictable, more creative, the OL play better and the Jets score more points and start playing like many of us thought they would or could.

[JKlecko]

3 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

 

You're a Giants fan. What in the heck do you know about what the Jets will do?  You're entitled to your opinion, but stating it so definitely is ridiculous.  It would truly make JD look like an idiot if he just cut Reddick free and let him do whatever.  The only way JD and the Jets come out of this whole is by holding Reddick's nose to the grindstone and either trading him and getting compensation back or forcing him to play then letting him walk in FA and getting a comp pick in return. If they let Reddick walk in FA next year, that would not prohibit the Jets from signing FAs.

[jgb]

3 hours ago, TokyoJetsFan said:

If the fines are deducted after taxes he’s already playing for free

Pre tax 

[Waka Flocka Flacco]

7 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Up rides Joe Douglas on his steed and his lance with Sancho Panza on his burrow

[UnknownJetFan]

8 hours ago, Ghost said:

He’s an idiot. I hope he never makes a penny again. 

We likely at one point may have to just release him and cut our losses. We lose the 3 round pick in 2026. There are worst outcomes in this world. He likely can’t play here after all this and what team in their right mind would trade for him?. Unless we can offload him to some pigeon team like Cleveland but they are probably not even that stupid. Turning the ship around in the right direction will require getting rid of side show situations like the Reddick debacle.

[Frankie Green]

9 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said:

They clearly don’t understand the way of the samurai. 

This nutcase is performing some type of seppuku ritual! I said this early in the holdout... he was totally telling everyone with his costumes and whatnot lol 

[Frankie Green]

It was worth the gamble but this guy is one of the dumbest players alive. He was gonna make prob 18 mil this year. He will NEVER hit that amount ever again, if he even plays. Dumba ss lol

[Sperm Edwards]

On 8/13/2024 at 7:26 AM, Sperm Edwards said:

I half-think Reddick was/is not taking his agent's advice -- i.e. this holdout was the client's idea despite his agent's better judgment, and Reddick doing and/or saying the wrong things like this is perhaps why he's been signing under-market contracts while their other clients get market or above-market deals up to now. 

 

On 9/8/2024 at 9:54 PM, Sperm Edwards said:

The other massive assumption you’re making is that everything Reddick has done thus far has been in alignment with his agent’s recommendations. That may or may not be the case. 

Who could have imagined, months ago, that this holdout might have stemmed from unprecedented irrationality by the player rather than tough negotiations by a shrewd agent exercising real leverage?

[Sperm Edwards]

11 minutes ago, Frankie Green said:

It was worth the gamble but this guy is one of the dumbest players alive. He was gonna make prob 18 mil this year. He will NEVER hit that amount ever again, if he even plays. Dumba ss lol

If the fines follow the player (unclear but if they do), then Reddick’s career may be over if he doesn’t show up at all this year.

As this trade didn’t work out for the Jets, no one else is trading for his rights a year later either, and the $5MM or whatever it is that he’s racked up this season would double to $10MM if he does his mindless preseason holdout again — he’d then have to show up for 12-13 regular season games under his current contract for free (just to break even on the fines). He’ll never do that, so his career is over.

As it is if he merely shows up for the last 6 games he nets zero after fines. I don’t think there are stiff fines for suddenly holding out for the postseason - it’s never happened before - but that’d make him radioactive as a UFA and would undo millions more on his next best offer.

He is one dumb f**k.

[BP]

20 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

 

Who could have imagined, months ago, that this holdout might have stemmed from unprecedented irrationality by the player rather than tough negotiations by a shrewd agent exercising real leverage?

He probably just doesn’t want to play for the Jets. But it is soooo stupid on his part. The Jets are renowned for unloading the vault on washed up players in the twilight of their careers. He’s not washed up and can get his big pay day.

Combination of greed and stupidity, but lots of both. 

[Jack Straw]

If the fines follow the player (unclear but if they do), then Reddick’s career may be over if he doesn’t show up at all this year.
As this trade didn’t work out for the Jets, no one else is trading for his rights a year later either, and the $5MM or whatever it is that he’s racked up this season would double to $10MM if he does his mindless preseason holdout again — he’d then have to show up for 12-13 regular season games under his current contract for free (just to break even on the fines). He’ll never do that, so his career is over.
As it is if he merely shows up for the last 6 games he nets zero after fines. I don’t think there are stiff fines for suddenly holding out for the postseason - it’s never happened before - but that’d make him radioactive as a UFA and would undo millions more on his next best offer.
He is one dumb f**k.

Reddick needs to be on the roster for 9 weeks (8 games) to earn FA - not six.


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[TuscanyTile2]

8 hours ago, BigRy56 said:

At this point it’s pretty clear that Reddick’s not showing up. He’s put himself into a pretty tight corner here and gonna have to swallow a lot of pride to come back

I don't think I'd even want him to play for us if he'd only be reporting for the minimum 6 games so he can leave ASAP.  

[ARodJetsFan]

8 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

JD or Reddick?

Reddick, I thought that went without saying.

[k-met57]

10 hours ago, JetsFanatic said:

Why? He paid $17M for a guy who has zero sacks 

Howie is having a rough couple of years....the Howie can do no wrong train is about to come into station big time.