KRL Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 It's looking like BUF is not going to pick up his option and he'll become a free agent: http://buffalonews.com/2017/01/06/report-bills-planning-move-taylor/ Yes, the Jets should go after him because he's WAY better than anything we have on the roster and would significantly improve the position. But for those who think he "matches his stats", don't be deceived: http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14163/tyrod-taylor After scouting him this season he has pros but some significant cons: Pros - Strong, accurate arm on deep vertical routes - Excellent runner and very elusive to make things happen when a play breaks down - Doesn't turn the ball over Cons - Doesn't stay in the pocket unless he has max protection - One read QB, if it's covered he looks to leave the pocket immediately - Doesn't throw the ball into the middle of the field. Either because he's short or doesn't read defenses well. Therefore he only throws outside the numbers - His intermediate accuracy isn't great, he "dirts" a lot of easy throws - Small frame He's only been a starter for two years, can an OC and a QB coach develop him further? Possibly, but don't think he's a finished product because he's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I am intrigued by him, I think Buff is making a mistake.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Yeah, if this is the BEST option out there, I would rather just go a year and see what we have, and then draft another QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Wonder what Buffalo is thinking in regards to who will be their potential starter next year. Doubt they think it's CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Hard pass! He cannot see the middle of the field, and he is the drop-off king. He is not able to pass out of the pocket, and he is a total gimmick QB. He is talented enough physically to lead a team to 7-9 to 9-7, but no better than that. He will not beat good teams. He averages less than 200 yards passing per game. He is way too limited a QB to throw the kind of money at that he will get. Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Please, for the love of God, give me a pocket passer. i vote to stick with petty and improve the defense and OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Guys like him are tough to decide on. He's absolutely a major upgrade to what we have. However, the goal is to win the Super Bowl. Is he good enough for that is the question. I feel the same about Kirk Cousins btw (should he become available - even though we all know he won't be). Is Cousins good enough to win a Super Bowl? Of course, it's easy to point to Trent Dilfer but that Ravens D was an all-time great (and in a less restrictive era on D). I guess the Broncos proved last year it can still be done w/ great D (as Peyton wasn't anything close to what he used to be). But keep in mind that it's more difficult to put together that type of D when you're paying a QB big bucks (eating into the salary cap). I would love to just go 0-16 and draft Darnold but obviously there's no guarantee of that happening so Macc is going to have to make a decision before we know if we can draft Darnold. Tough call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Guys like him are tough to decide on. He's absolutely a major upgrade to what we have. However, the goal is to win the Super Bowl. Is he good enough for that is the question. I feel the same about Kirk Cousins btw (should he become available - even though we all know he won't be). Is Cousins good enough to win a Super Bowl? Of course, it's easy to point to Trent Dilfer but that Ravens D was an all-time great (and in a less restrictive era on D). I guess the Broncos proved last year it can still be done w/ great D (as Peyton wasn't anything close to what he used to be). But keep in mind that it's more difficult to put together that type of D when you're paying a QB big bucks (eating into the salary cap). I would love to just go 0-16 and draft Darnold but obviously there's no guarantee of that happening so Macc is going to have to make a decision before we know if we can draft Darnold. Tough call. Taylor with our receivers and an improved defense is good enough to win a Super Bowl. But don't worry guys, I'm almost positive we end up with the dynamic duo of Petty/Hack and endure another 4-12 season next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 35 minutes ago, KRL said: It's looking like BUF is not going to pick up his option and he'll become a free agent: http://buffalonews.com/2017/01/06/report-bills-planning-move-taylor/ Yes, the Jets should go after him because he's WAY better than anything we have on the roster and would significantly improve the position. But for those who think he "matches his stats", don't be deceived: http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14163/tyrod-taylor After scouting him this season he has pros but some significant cons: Pros - Strong, accurate arm on deep vertical routes - Excellent runner and very elusive to make things happen when a play breaks down - Doesn't turn the ball over Cons - Doesn't stay in the pocket unless he has max protection - One read QB, if it's covered he looks to leave the pocket immediately - Doesn't throw the ball into the middle of the field. Either because he's short or doesn't read defenses well. Therefore he only throws outside the numbers - His intermediate accuracy isn't great, he "dirts" a lot of easy throws - Small frame He's only been a starter for two years, can an OC and a QB coach develop him further? Possibly, but don't think he's a finished product because he's not He had no receivers last year. He can actually read defenses and throw deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 any free agent QB with some worth is probably going to get overpaid. if you sign a taylor or glennon you are likely going to have to give a larger contract. With a larger contract comes commitment to that QB. if you do that, then there is no QB competition next year in camp. i would think ideally you want that competition since next season is looking like a rebuild. And Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Just now, RESNewYork said: any free agent QB with some worth is probably going to get overpaid. if you sign a taylor or glennon you are likely going to have to give a larger contract. if you do that, then there is no QB competition next year in camp. i would think ideally you want that competition since next season is looking like a rebuild Petty is at best a JAG and Hack is a horrible bust. Time to move on boys c'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I'd jump in and sign the guy first day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Tyrod just had surgery... http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tyrod-taylor-flips-bird-buffalo-171811596.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, thadude said: Petty is at best a JAG and Hack is a horrible bust. Time to move on boys c'mon. maybe. what if hack or petty comes back from the off season much improved. are the jets a team ready to hitch their wagon to taylor or glennon long term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Just now, RESNewYork said: maybe. what if hack or petty comes back from the off season much improved. are the jets a team ready to hitch their wagon to taylor or glennon long term? Neither one is improving. Petty is what he is a one-read qb with a strong arm but if you can't make reads you're not going to do much in the nfl. Hackenberg is a waste of time. And no, we don't need to see Hackenberg stink up the joint in 48 regular season games in order to figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 If I have to watch another one-tead QB, I'm done. Taylor us exactly the kind of QB that wins you 6-8 games a year, ensuring you never actually improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 minute ago, JetPotato said: If I have to watch another one-tead QB, I'm done. . You are so wrong about that. Taylor is not just another one-read qb he actually goes through progressions he just had WR's with names like Marquise Goodwin and Robert Woods last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Tyrod just had surgery... http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tyrod-taylor-flips-bird-buffalo-171811596.html Good point about the injury. I wasn't for signing Mo not because he isn't a good player but because he had an injury late last season and you don't give big money until a guy proves he can still play. So maybe sign him to a one year deal with an option but that probably won't get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Buffalo had the 30th ranked passing offense this season. Needless to say, he would fit right in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 He would be the best option available if the Bills let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Good point about the injury. I wasn't for signing Mo not because he isn't a good player but because he had an injury late last season and you don't give big money until a guy proves he can still play. So maybe sign him to a one year deal with an option but that probably won't get it done. If Taylor fails his physical in March he's a Bill next season because of the clause in his current contract so his health is a moot issue. Mo sucked this year because he didn't have Snacks next to him eating up blockers and he also quit on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I'm not a fan of bringing in a QB who's just good enough for this team to go 8-8 for 4 straight years. That's exactly the reason why this franchise has failed to land a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 He's better than anything we have on the roster presently but his ceiling is basically where he is right now. There's no reason to pay a premium to get a game or two shy of the playoffs when you could stick in somebody cheaper and already on the roster to do the same thing. If we had a roster like Denver who is an average QB away from playoff contention then I'd say let's go for it. Denver wouldn't be an awful place for him to go but I feel fairly confident Elway does not want another Tebow-like QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persiussa Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Roll with the guys we have. People are not seeing the rare opportunity to be bad next year when their are so many great QB options that are possible for 2018. This is why it's good to keep Bowles. If we suck no problem it might finally land us our franchise QB. If he's good then great, there's nothing wrong with him turning it around im gonna pass on any option that puts us back in the lets go 8-8 because I can't handle a bad season mentality. Tyrod Taylor would be a band aid to make the fans feel better but would prevent us from the real rebuild this team desperately needs. This is a rare opportunity to do the rebuild right and I want to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 hours ago, KRL said: It's looking like BUF is not going to pick up his option and he'll become a free agent: http://buffalonews.com/2017/01/06/report-bills-planning-move-taylor/ Yes, the Jets should go after him because he's WAY better than anything we have on the roster and would significantly improve the position. But for those who think he "matches his stats", don't be deceived: http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14163/tyrod-taylor After scouting him this season he has pros but some significant cons: Pros - Strong, accurate arm on deep vertical routes - Excellent runner and very elusive to make things happen when a play breaks down - Doesn't turn the ball over Cons - Doesn't stay in the pocket unless he has max protection - One read QB, if it's covered he looks to leave the pocket immediately - Doesn't throw the ball into the middle of the field. Either because he's short or doesn't read defenses well. Therefore he only throws outside the numbers - His intermediate accuracy isn't great, he "dirts" a lot of easy throws - Small frame He's only been a starter for two years, can an OC and a QB coach develop him further? Possibly, but don't think he's a finished product because he's not No thanks I've seen enough of 1 read QB's, and I hope he can't pass his physical in March after his surgery keeping the Bills on the hook for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Lets Geno Smith walk, some fans still pine for him. Same fans now want to sign Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith II Same Old Jets (Fans). Psst, the old Mike Vick style of running QB has been figured out, especially when the running QB's are bad throwers a la Geno.Tyrod. And neither Geno nor Tyrod hold to a candle to what Vick was. How about we look forward instead of trying to relive someone else's 1990's Glory Days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: If Taylor fails his physical in March he's a Bill next season because of the clause in his current contract so his health is a moot issue. Mo sucked this year because he didn't have Snacks next to him eating up blockers and he also quit on the team. I disagree about Mo. McLendon is a decent player but injured a lot. And NT while important isn't going to affect the play of a good pass rusher. I mean after Woolfork left NEP their defense didn't fall apart. To me Mo's problems was mostly health related plus the entire defense played badly most of the season. In spurts they would play very well and had stops but there were just too many breakdowns and big plays. Also attitude and discipline problems. I was surprised to hear after getting paid that Mo copped a bad attitude. I always through he was a good team player. Injuries are one thing but not listening to coaches and following rules is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: You are so wrong about that. Taylor is not just another one-read qb he actually goes through progressions he just had WR's with names like Marquise Goodwin and Robert Woods last year. Oh. Even better. I'll be watching a lame one-read QB AND still listening to other Jets fans excuse him for having "No Weaponz". Kill me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Tyrod is interesting. He's shown flashes of potential decent ball security but it definitely not a finished product. I have 0 confidence in this CS to develop him further so if he is brought in we must must must spend as much money and draft picks as possible to build the best possible oline and establish a run game. When Sanchez was here all his job entailed was not turning the ball over while Thomas Jones rushed for 50348348r743342209303 yards and 15 tds behind a great oline. Tyrod has shown he can limit turnovers but without a good oline in front of him he's going to scramble 20 times a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 NO. We need to see what we have in Hack and Petty after they are given significant reps and a full offseason with new OC and QB coach. Hack is NOT a bust yet, and Petty showed flashes of being good. But idiots on this board want to bring back Fitz or sign Glennon so it just shows you have brain dead most opinions are here. I do know this though. Whatever the right decision is, the Jets will not make it. AND Macc and Bowles are effectively lame ducks so there is NO WAY they will make the right long term decisions for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 the fact that buffalo moved on from him so quickly while we gave sanchez and geno shot after shot after shot says something about both franchises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 To the poster who said Taylor could win the SB, I agree but only if we had our 2009 roster. We don't. This is the quickest way to get the Jets back to the middle of the pack. No playoffs and no sure shot to really compete. And no savior QB at the top of the draft. So is 7 wins worth signing him to a ridiculous contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, JOJOTOWNSELL said: the fact that buffalo moved on from him so quickly while we gave sanchez and geno shot after shot after shot says something about both franchises Their Owner moved on from Taylor with no one else on their roster that could even be a back up. Our coaching staff stuck with Sanchez because there was no obvious replacement. Maybe Buffalo's gonna tank next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Did you guys ever see a couch sitting out by the curb and say to yourselves, "man, that's a sweet couch. I can't believe someone is just throwing that away! I'm gonna strap it to the roof of my car and put it in my living room for the next decade." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I don't get it, Fitz threw 31 tds in 2015 and people here bashed resigning him. Taylor has never thrown 20 tds in a season and people here want to sign him. Is it that some people want a black QB at any cost? Again, I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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