rex-n-effect Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 No thanks. Two seasons of poor performance across the games prior to playoff elimination followed by two seasons where he couldn't make it through a single game without injury. While injuries are not necessarily attributable to poor decision-making by Geno one cannot overlook that there is a greater risk of injury to a QB already beat up by moderate injuries who makes bad decisions while holding the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 This hurts.... but give me Cutler any day over Geno "Glass Joe" Smith... If we bring this joke of a QB back this year then F* Mac... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I hate Geno as a Qb but if he gets us Darnold I am on the Geno train. Based off of what we have seen from Darnold last year sure. BUT... what if Darnold sucks this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I do not and would not support any such move. And I do not believe this Organization will either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Stark said: Based off of what we have seen from Darnold last year sure. BUT... what if Darnold sucks this season? He could, that has happened to many a QB. Then we move on to the next QB prospect. (As an aside I don't think he is a Matt Barkley or Connor Cook. I normally don't toss around high praise for Qb prospects at least a year out but this guy looked like the real deal last year every time I watched him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 just as likely that Geno is negotiating with other teams (yes, I know that it is too early and against the rules, but they all do handshake deals... we know that... just ask Revis and the Jets). Could be set to be acquired to be some other team's back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I still thing he is going to end up in Tampa Bay, Glennon leaves and Geno is the backup. Speaking of Tampa Bay. What are the rules for tampering re players talking? Winston basically said the same thing or worse than what Woody said about revis a few years back saying that they wanted DeSEan Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 29 minutes ago, Stark said: Based off of what we have seen from Darnold last year sure. BUT... what if Darnold sucks this season? I remember when Christian Hackenberg was the consensus #1 overall pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Awesome news if true, but I'll temper my reaction until it's official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Geno at 1/5M or Cutler at 3/55M The only way I can talk myself into not going apesh*t over bringing Geno back is if the plan is to go with the young QBs and give them a real shot to win the job in 2017. Bringing in almost any other QB in FA financially forbids you from doing that (unless you're Pete Carroll) Of course, being the Jets, neither Hack or Petty will step up, and we'll suffer through 2017 watching Geno making Geno-like decisions. But at least we'll go 3-13 , have the #2 pick in the 2018 draft, and narrowly miss out on the top QB prospect in 5-10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just say no. he was arguably better in 2015 than 2014 and still only managed 4 wins. Passing Share & more Modify & Share Table Embed this Table Get table as CSV (for Excel) Copy Link to Table to Clipboard About Sharing Tools Glossary Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV 2013 23 NYJ QB 7 16 16 8-8-0 247 443 55.8 3046 12 2.7 21 4.7 69 6.9 5.3 12.3 190.4 66.5 38.56 43 315 5.62 4.17 8.8 2 5 7 2014 24 NYJ QB 7 14 13 3-10-0 219 367 59.7 2525 13 3.5 13 3.5 74 6.9 6.0 11.5 180.4 77.5 44.28 28 175 5.95 5.13 7.1 1 2 6 2015 25 NYJ 7 1 0 27 42 64.3 265 2 4.8 1 2.4 28 6.3 6.2 9.8 265.0 87.9 66.2 3 19 5.47 5.36 6.7 1 2016 26 NYJ qb 7 2 1 1-0-0 8 14 57.1 126 1 7.1 1 7.1 69 9.0 7.2 15.8 63.0 81.3 30.9 3 19 6.29 4.82 17.6 0 Career 33 30 12-18-0 501 866 57.9 5962 28 3.2 36 4.2 74 6.9 5.7 11.9 180.7 72.4 77 528 5.76 4.64 8.2 3 7 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 So the Tank is on! "Mud Dogs, Mud Dogs".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, ChuckkieB said: This is a terrible move waiting to happen. Pllleeeeeeeaaaaassse NO!!!!!!!!! Sometimes players just wear out their welcome and reach a point where no matter what they do or say, the perception of them is so bad and negative that every single bad play, silly comment, and facial expression is scrutinized and just makes it very near impossible to be successful on the current team. That's where we are with Geno. He might very well move on to another team and be a productive NFL QB (I doubt it), but that will NEVER happen in NY. Pack his bags for him and drive him to the airport. I hope you're right but I wonder if there's is anything to what everyone is speculating with regard to his kooky post. Hope it's not true. I can't take 3 picks a game anymore. I'll drive him to the airport. Free of charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, JiF said: Meh, there is no Y in Hackenberg. There is in PettY, penis. LOL THAT WAS FUNNY. MADE ME SPIT MY ICED TEA ALL OVER THE PLACE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 First, I think it's a reach to speculate that tweet means he's coming back to the Jets. Second & third, Geno would be better off almost anywhere else, and the Jets would be better off with almost anyone else. They've changed coordinators, so it's not like there's any continuity on offense to talk about. The fans here will not cut him an inch of slack. Long before he even steps back on the field, the team will face massive repercussions: a level which I don't think they can withstand, being that Mac and Bowles are already treading on thin ice with fans. Just can't imagine this happening. At all. So yes, I'd be surprised despite the warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Geno said don't be surprised. Well nothing would really surprise me when it comes to this regime. I have made no secret about how I feel about Geno friggin Smith but you know what? Starting Geno behind this OL and having a WR corps minus Marshall and Dekker(assuming they release both) means that Geno will probably be on IR within the first 4 games. That in turn will mean Petty or Hack starting without 1st team training camp reps which in turn will lead to the high draft pick we all crave and will mean Bowles and Mac are gone. So much as I hate to say it by all means bring Geno friggin Smith back so this franchise can move on from yet another half-assed front office and coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 The jets are going to be cutting vets who could help them win. They obviously admit next yr jets will suck.. why not let geno come back and help us tank the yr so we can get a top qb in 18 draft.. much better class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Geno is the kind of QB the jets should look for, cheap, young, still with potential upside. however I think it's time to move on. rather take a chance on a guy like mccarron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 hours ago, JiF said: I for one, am totally ready for this. It would be the most Jetsiest thing ever if this regime dicked around with Ryan Fitzpatrick for 2 years, never giving Geno a shot when it was the clear thing to do, with a better OC and 10x better weapons, only to bring him back after his contract expired to start again in 2017. Cant wait! Man, I can't even joke about this. I wanted Geno to get on the field last year instead of Fitz. Didn't happen. Then it did and Geno got hurt. For this year, just pass on Geno. Need to find a real answer even if it means going 0 and 16, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Rangers9 said: If they go with those 3 as their Qbs then a lot of fan backlash. You do not spend so little on the Qb position in the NFL. All 3 are unproven, actually Geno had 30 starts and he's proven-to be a bad Qb. I don't think the Jets would do that and give up on paper for the 2017 season. With a reset on defense a fair to good starting Qb or even just a game manager could move us in the right direction.Look, I want to win in 2017 and not tank it. I'm looking forward to having a competitive team and there is talent here. At the least I try to sign Hoyer. Not Geno. Throwing away underdeveloped high draft choices works like a charm...Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I'd rather have Geno back at $5 million than Jay Cutler at $16 million, Josh Glennon at $15 Million, or Josh McCown at $8 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 There is no way this will happen time to move on from someone who did not learn from their mistakes and Jet fans hate for the most part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Rangers9 said: You don't drastically cut corners on the Qb position. You don't budget 3 to 4 million if you carry 3 guys on the roster. If you want to be competitive you have to pay someone. What do you use the saved money for then if not for a good Qb. That's what the money is here for. Geno will get a job somewhere but then he has to make a roster. Unless we cut either Petty or Hack there is only room for one vet Qb or a top draft pick. If we select someone like Watson it's then Watson, Petty and Hack. We have to commit money for the Qb position and I think Mac knows that. Let's just continue to throw money away on questionable QB's. That is a sound business practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, rex-n-effect said: No thanks. Two seasons of poor performance across the games prior to playoff elimination followed by two seasons where he couldn't make it through a single game without injury. While injuries are not necessarily attributable to poor decision-making by Geno one cannot overlook that there is a greater risk of injury to a QB already beat up by moderate injuries who makes bad decisions while holding the ball. Petty could not last 4 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, rangerous said: Just say no. he was arguably better in 2015 than 2014 and still only managed 4 wins. Passing Share & more Modify & Share Table Embed this Table Get table as CSV (for Excel) Copy Link to Table to Clipboard About Sharing Tools Glossary Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV 2013 23 NYJ QB 7 16 16 8-8-0 247 443 55.8 3046 12 2.7 21 4.7 69 6.9 5.3 12.3 190.4 66.5 38.56 43 315 5.62 4.17 8.8 2 5 7 2014 24 NYJ QB 7 14 13 3-10-0 219 367 59.7 2525 13 3.5 13 3.5 74 6.9 6.0 11.5 180.4 77.5 44.28 28 175 5.95 5.13 7.1 1 2 6 2015 25 NYJ 7 1 0 27 42 64.3 265 2 4.8 1 2.4 28 6.3 6.2 9.8 265.0 87.9 66.2 3 19 5.47 5.36 6.7 1 2016 26 NYJ qb 7 2 1 1-0-0 8 14 57.1 126 1 7.1 1 7.1 69 9.0 7.2 15.8 63.0 81.3 30.9 3 19 6.29 4.82 17.6 0 Career 33 30 12-18-0 501 866 57.9 5962 28 3.2 36 4.2 74 6.9 5.7 11.9 180.7 72.4 77 528 5.76 4.64 8.2 3 7 14 Who were the WR's those seasons? Didn't Geno start as an untested rookie because of a poor coaching decision in a PS game? Your arguments have huge holes bro. This is a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Warfish said: I do not and would not support any such move. And I do not believe this Organization will either. Didn't you cry for the Jets to sign Futz? I could not believe the organization would be dumb enough to sign him after May 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Flushing Roots said: I hope you're right but I wonder if there's is anything to what everyone is speculating with regard to his kooky post. Hope it's not true. I can't take 3 picks a game anymore. I'll drive him to the airport. Free of charge. Futz threw twice that many in one game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I'm actually for this. It guarantees a top 3 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 47 minutes ago, slats said: First, I think it's a reach to speculate that tweet means he's coming back to the Jets. Second & third, Geno would be better off almost anywhere else, and the Jets would be better off with almost anyone else. They've changed coordinators, so it's not like there's any continuity on offense to talk about. The fans here will not cut him an inch of slack. Long before he even steps back on the field, the team will face massive repercussions: a level which I don't think they can withstand, being that Mac and Bowles are already treading on thin ice with fans. Just can't imagine this happening. At all. So yes, I'd be surprised despite the warning. The fans wanted Futz. Look what that brought the Jets....Back to Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 24 minutes ago, Maxman said: Man, I can't even joke about this. I wanted Geno to get on the field last year instead of Fitz. Didn't happen. Then it did and Geno got hurt. For this year, just pass on Geno. Need to find a real answer even if it means going 0 and 16, There is no real answer other than Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 27 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: I'd rather have Geno back at $5 million than Jay Cutler at $16 million, Josh Glennon at $15 Million, or Josh McCown at $8 million. This....over and over. All the other QB's mentioned are going to command a sick a$$ salary and none of them have proven to give the Jets any more of a chance at winning than Geno but cost significantly more. Glennon?- someone's wet dream Cutler?- born loser MccCown? just too damn old, whatever potential he had as a starter is washed up. As far as dont be surprised? After the broken jaw in the locker room incident & stepping on the field after more than a year in which he griped and made it clear he should have been the starter and promptly tearing up his knee I dont think there is ANYTHING geno freaking smith can do to surprise me anymore. dont mistake this post...I DON't want geno...I just think the other options at ridiculous prices I dont want either...maybe slightly more "dont want" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 STB................... Sign this bust??? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Jetdawgg said: Throwing away underdeveloped high draft choices works like a charm...Go figure Geno is not underdeveloped. He has 30 starts. It's enough. He had his chance. Very few Qbs get this many starts and play so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew007b Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Geno was our best QB last year.. pretty sad situation but he was.. Cutler/Glennon/Geno.. it's all good. I just can't imagine Geno and his agent wanting to go through another year with the Jets when he could compete for the job for the browns or 49ers and other teams.. We'll see.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Jetdawgg said: Didn't you cry for the Jets to sign Futz? I could not believe the organization would be dumb enough to sign him after May 2016. The fact Macc and Co were so desperate to sign Fitz, or draft Petty, or draft Hack, should tell you everything you need to know about how Bowles, Chan and Macc saw Geno Smith. The fact the team is reported to be interested in Cutler, Romo, Glennon, Taylor and more, and have Petty and Hack on the roster already (both Macc picks) should tell you everything you need to know about how they view Geno Smith. Signing a guy who just helped produce one of the best Offensive production years in franchise history makes sense. Every pro analyst said it was the right move, and it was. It didn't work out. No excuses for that, and the guy who didn't work out is gone, as he should be. On egreta year, one sh*t year. Signing a guy who failed utterly as a starter, got his jaw broke by his own teammate over $600, failed to beat out a journeyman QB, and has been an immature twit every minute of his pro career.....doesn't make sense. Two sh*t years, one broke jaw punk year, one couldn't-last-a-game-doh-injured year. An sad era, and it's over. Geno Smith isn't coming back here, and his faux-cryptic "don't be surprised" has nothing to do with the Jets. It's PR, a "look at me, I still exist, and I'm makin' a comeback!" type of give-me-attention thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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