#27TheDominator Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 This is why we need more math and science majors So there are more chicks for faba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So there are more chicks for faba? I majored in Finance -but more chicks sounds good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Go to http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/the-new-england-patriots-mysteriously-became-fumble-proof-in-2007 For an analytics answer to your implied question yeah they are cheaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Exactly. Analytics may help, but Brady is the only reason this team is good every year. Outside of one fluke year with Matt Cassell, Bellicheat has had no success in the NFL as a head coach without Brady. Pats fans always bring up 2008 & Matt Cassel,lol. There defense was still very good, they played one of the weakest schedules in the NFL that year. Go back & take a look. Jets beat them in New England that year before Favre broke down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Some people have way too much free time on their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Rules of public speaking and or presenting: don't condescend your audience and do not use 10 words where 1 word will suffice. Plus, pictures, usually ones with boobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 FLAT BALLS! THEY WIN CUZ FLAT BALLS! YOU CAN SEE IT EVERY SEASON! THE BALLS AREN'T EVEN INFLATED! THEY PLAY WITH A FOLDED PIECE OF LEATHER! THOSE CHEATIN' PATS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Rules of public speaking and or presenting: don't condescend your audience and do not use 10 words where 1 word will suffice. Plus, pictures, usually ones with boobs. This is why everyone likes your fanposts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 And if you look at their moves, the actually successful no-names all have one thing in common. Tom Brady passes them the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 This is why everyone likes your fanposts. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 IF YOU WATCH CLOSELY YOU CAN SEE ITS A FLAT FOOTBALL HE'S THROWING! LOOK AT THAT CRAPPY SPIRAL! IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S THROWING A DEAD ANIMAL. THEY ONLY WIN CUZ THEY CHEAT. JET FANS NEVER WORRY ABOUT BRADY ON GAMEDAY. THEY JUST WORRY ABOUT FLAT FOOTBALLS CUZ THATS HOW THEY WIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 IF YOU WATCH CLOSELY YOU CAN SEE ITS A FLAT FOOTBALL HE'S THROWING! LOOK AT THAT CRAPPY SPIRAL! IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S THROWING A DEAD ANIMAL. THEY ONLY WIN CUZ THEY CHEAT. JET FANS NEVER WORRY ABOUT BRADY ON GAMEDAY. THEY JUST WORRY ABOUT FLAT FOOTBALLS CUZ THATS HOW THEY WIN Somewhere deep in the woods of New Hampshire, a gangly, toothless man rolls off of his sister, pounds at his keyboard, lights a cigarette, and sighs "Nailed it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Blast Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So viguyoo7, you are advocating the so-called "Patriot Way"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Somewhere deep in the woods of New Hampshire, a gangly, toothless man rolls off of his sister, pounds at his keyboard, lights a cigarette, and sighs "Nailed it." You paint such a word-picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 You paint such a word-picture. I had to read it three times to make sure he wasn't talking about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Let's see. Stats analysis is the main difference for success, Billy Beane's Oakland As have been to how many World Series? Apples and Oranges, guys and girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I had to read it three times to make sure he wasn't talking about me. I'm still not entirely certain that he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'm still not entirely certain that he's not. That son of a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Haha "not ******* math equations " was the best post in this thread .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The biggest reason the Pats have owned the AFC East over the last 9 years. Tom Brady Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The biggest reason the Pats have owned the AFC East over the last 9 years. Turnover differential: Pats: +122 Bills: -9 Phins: -19 Jets: -37 Brady is a factor in this stat for sure but Brady has little to do with generating turnovers. Over the last 9 years the Pats have been plus in TO ratio every year. Phins plus 3 out of 9 years Bills plus 5 out of 9 years Jets plus 2 out of 9 years. It's fair to say the differential matters. it's also fair to observe a superior QB has A LOT to do with that not committing turnover part of the equation.And facing usually 3 crappy other divisional QBs spare 5 minutes each of Vinny, Noodlearm and Favre helped a bunch. Fair to say under seat of the pants idiots like "master motivators" Edwards and Ryan, analytics were not much considered. Suspect Bowles and McCagnan didn't get this job based on stirring pregame speeches but knowing analytics and the role of statstics. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Agreed. Motorboat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Two words to explain the success of Bob Kraft's analytics: Tom Brady Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Crap I was hoping this was another geno sucks thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Btw, Geno suck. Thats problem number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 That's incredible. Something fishy there Balls are deflated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 So many non-believers here, yet more and more NFL team are adopting analytics. In the future this will be the NFL: What if a coach had access to real-time data that showed how the defense was responding (or not) to a ferocious ofensive drive that got them deep into enemy territory? What if he could seize upon that data to identify a weakness in the secondary within the 40-second play clock and and hurry-up offense (which makes it almost impossible for the defense to substitute) to call a play designed to exploit that weakness, one that he could feel much more confident about employing than the standard generic run up the middle on a goal-line situation? The NFL has partnered with Microsoft to make this a reality This is where the NFL and the entire world are going. As the amount and quality of data grows exponentially analytic tools will be able to turn the data into more useful information quicker to drive better decisions and outcomes. If you want to know more on this subject look at some youtube video on big data, or internet of things. These is the biggest trends in business today and they are slowly creeping all aspects of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 This is why we need more math and science majors That's where all the jobs are Science, Technology, Engineering and Math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I do think that we should look into statistics and advanced analysis more, and am a bit concerned about this article. The argument of baseball doesn't work, because while Billy Beane and others introduced sabermetrics to baseball, plenty of teams soon copied the idea (most notably the Yankees/RedSox) and therefore had an advantage on the A's because they had financial stability and wherewithal to sign who they wanted. And we see the changes all over baseball. OBP has taken precedent over BA. You see all kinda of defensive shifts based on hitting trajectory analysis, pitch f/x analysis, pitch framing analysis. Infact, if you are a Yankees fan, the whole trade for Nathan Eovaldi is based on advanced analysis, based on the improvement in pitch framing from team to team, the lack of pitches he throws in the high part of the plate causing hitters to have a leg up on a blazing fastball, and how he didn't mix his pitches effectively. I think football can be the same way, you have to adopt to changes and turn over every rock. We make fun of Rex for harboring the old school, hey lets run it up the gut and get guys that can take heads off philosophy, yet we don't mind us ignoring advanced stats. I think we should be turning over every rock and crawl space we can find to get an advantage. Saying all this, I don't think it's important that the higher ups in the organization be represented at the conference. For all we know, we could have interns and other lesser known people there that may understand the evidence better there to relay and translate the information. Famously, the Yankees stumbled upon pitch framing because an intern happened to have some free time and decided to check some stats to a discussion he had with another colleague. So just because the higher ups weren't represented, it doesn't mean we weren't there or aren't privy to the information that is released there. As far as I know, the conference is like a car show, just shows the new models, doesn't actually prevent us from acquiring the knowledge or stats from the vendor later like you can buy cars at a dealership. However, the argument that these analytics can't help us is false, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I do think that we should look into statistics and advanced analysis more, and am a bit concerned about this article. The argument of baseball doesn't work, because while Billy Beane and others introduced sabermetrics to baseball, plenty of teams soon copied the idea (most notably the Yankees/RedSox) and therefore had an advantage on the A's because they had financial stability and wherewithal to sign who they wanted. And we see the changes all over baseball. OBP has taken precedent over BA. You see all kinda of defensive shifts based on hitting trajectory analysis, pitch f/x analysis, pitch framing analysis. Infact, if you are a Yankees fan, the whole trade for Nathan Eovaldi is based on advanced analysis, based on the improvement in pitch framing from team to team, the lack of pitches he throws in the high part of the plate causing hitters to have a leg up on a blazing fastball, and how he didn't mix his pitches effectively. I think football can be the same way, you have to adopt to changes and turn over every rock. We make fun of Rex for harboring the old school, hey lets run it up the gut and get guys that can take heads off philosophy, yet we don't mind us ignoring advanced stats. I think we should be turning over every rock and crawl space we can find to get an advantage. Saying all this, I don't think it's important that the higher ups in the organization be represented at the conference. For all we know, we could have interns and other lesser known people there that may understand the evidence better there to relay and translate the information. Famously, the Yankees stumbled upon pitch framing because an intern happened to have some free time and decided to check some stats to a discussion he had with another colleague. So just because the higher ups weren't represented, it doesn't mean we weren't there or aren't privy to the information that is released there. As far as I know, the conference is like a car show, just shows the new models, doesn't actually prevent us from acquiring the knowledge or stats from the vendor later like you can buy cars at a dealership. However, the argument that these analytics can't help us is false, IMO. Agreed. Even if we just consider scouting. The draft is such a crap shoot and if we can collect the data and have the mathematical models to support what a scout sees to help make better decisions about player selection, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Let's see. Stats analysis is the main difference for success, Billy Beane's Oakland As have been to how many World Series? Apples and Oranges, guys and girls. I love that stupid, boring overrated movie makes no mention of Hudson. Mulder and Zito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Two words to explain the success of Bob Kraft's analytics: Tom Brady exactly. If they had some run of the mill QB all of this talk not exist. Bellicheck was going to be fired the next season if Mo Lewis didn't crush Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It's fair to say the differential matters. it's also fair to observe a superior QB has A LOT to do with that not committing turnover part of the equation.And facing usually 3 crappy other divisional QBs spare 5 minutes each of Vinny, Noodlearm and Favre helped a bunch. Fair to say under seat of the pants idiots like "master motivators" Edwards and Ryan, analytics were not much considered. Suspect Bowles and McCagnan didn't get this job based on stirring pregame speeches but knowing analytics and the role of statstics. Problem solved. Turnovers generated the last 9 years: N.E. 174 ints, 109 fumble rec = 283 Bills 154 ints, 88 fumble rec = 242 Jets 123 ints, 96 fumble rec = 219 Mia 124 ints, 79 fumble rec = 203 Brady aside the Pats still have generated turnovers on a very consistent basis, this is why in the years where they had head shakingly bad secondaries they still were a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 In the last 3 years alone Jets QB's have thrown +28 more interceptions then Brady. much of that gap will be a QB not turning the ball over THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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