SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I will start: 1 - New owner Johnson making parcells totally leave organization as he promised year before (when Hess promised Belichick he would have TOTAL control following year when Tuna retired). Instead Tuna decides to stay as President and Belichick , not being stupid, says BS, I've been in his shadow my whole career and if he is Prez of team and I start out 2-5, he will come back to sideline. No trophies cause Parcells decided he wanted to stay since new owner would allow it (Hess promised Belichick 100% control) 2 - Is a penalty a mistake? Gastineau roughing Kosar on meaningless last gasp play that allowed Browns to win game and cost us a AFC Champ/SB berth. We were better than Denver that year (they beat Browns following week on 98 yd drive). I think we would have had home field for that game. 3 - Lam Jones #1 pick in draft 4 - Not having own stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 We need a Mt. Everest sized mountain to list all of our "Worst Mistakes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Interesting topic. Would suggest splitting mistakes between "Worst Decisions -off field" and "Worst Plays - on field" Since "Worst Plays" would be limitless, I'd with these as the worst 4 decisions: 1. Letting Belichick walk as HC of the NYJ. Hindsight is 20/20, but clearly this is the single biggest mistake in franchise history. 2. Hiring Jay Cross to get a Stadium on the West Side. The only person in business outwitted by James Dolan. We hired him! 3. Parcells not having a backup QB going into the 1999 season. By the time Ray Lucas got on the field, the season was already destroyed by the Rick Mirer experiment" 4. Leon Hess for moving and staying in Giants Stadium and having non-football people run the franchise (Jim Kensil) until 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1. Choosing to hire a head coach to ignore our offense at the very moment we had discovered a 22 year old rookie quarterback who stepped into the NFL as a college junior, led us to the playoffs in back-to-back years, went on a 16-4 run best in team history, won 4 playoff games all on the road, and was the best Jet on the field in 2 AFC Championship Games. It's just like the Jets to finally unearth the franchise quarterback prospect we've been searching for since Vietnam and treat him like a Communist. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Giving up on Pete Carroll as HC after one year so we could bring in Hess's buttboy, Rich Kotite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Ya agree, that was a odd one. Somehow Kotite, just on how he back stabbed to get job made me never respect him. Beata writers at time told me he left practice many times 2-3 PM to play golf. he has zero fera at time of any repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Granted I'm not old enough to go back to all of the SOJF moments, but mine: Parcells (for not guaranteeing Peyton would be the #1 overall pick) Doug OBrien (Yes, Hermie and Pennyboy deserve their share of the blame here, but at the end of the day, two missed makeable FGs are what they are) Some sort of facial combination of all of the good players we passed on in various drafts Some sort of facial combination of all of the sh*tty draft picks by Tannenbaum, Idzik, and Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Doesn't seem appropriate until April 26-28th of 2018 passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Marino, end of topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 If it's a mount rushmore, it would be the people and not their actual mistakes. So Kotite, Johnson, Idzik, Rex, Tannenbaum, then one that half Mac and half Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Joe Jets fan said: Marino, end of topic. remember marino was old days,, Kiper told me that Marino tested positive at combine (it didnt make the news). That was scandoulous then. Reason Jets and others passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Jets Mt Rushmore of mistakes: Kotite, Gholston, Bellichek, Vinny's Achiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: Marino, end of topic. Blair Thomas over Emmitt Smith. In a time RBs were the sheet, passed on an all time one for a bum. Plus would have saved us watching the downside of Curtis Martin and allowed that FA $ to go to other spots . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: Jets Mt Rushmore of mistakes: Kotite, Gholston, Bellichek, Vinny's Achiles Lot of sad days, that might have been the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, SAR I said: 1. Choosing to hire a head coach to ignore our offense at the very moment we had discovered a 22 year old rookie quarterback who stepped into the NFL as a college junior, led us to the playoffs in back-to-back years, went on a 16-4 run best in team history, won 4 playoff games all on the road, and was the best Jet on the field in 2 AFC Championship Games. It's just like the Jets to finally unearth the franchise quarterback prospect we've been searching for since Vietnam and treat him like a Communist. SAR I I knew it was coming! I knew it! IT WAS INEVITABLE. The SAR I token Sanchez post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Because what we really need around here is more discussion about, and acknowledgement of, all the mistakes and heartbreaks this team has put us through why do we do this to ourselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 By far the "Worst Play" for me is Gastineau getting flagged for roughing Bernie Kosar. Could have won the Super Bowl that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: Jets Mt Rushmore of mistakes: Kotite, Gholston, Bellichek, Vinny's Achiles How was Belichick a mistake? We hired him; he quit. Nobody's fault Leon Hess dropped dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkiss24 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Kotite, Bowles, Herm, woodySent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: By far the "Worst Play" for me is Gastineau getting flagged for roughing Bernie Kosar. Could have won the Super Bowl that year. That's a subjective call though. I've seen worse not called. It has to be the fake spike. Sent the Jets into the depths for 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, tkiss24 said: Kotite, Bowles, Herm, woody Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Bowles is not, Woody is not, Herm is not. Kotite, Fake Spike, Gholston, Idzik Notice 2 of them are around the same time. I switched firing Pete Carroll to Idzik because Carroll didnt do well with the Patriots either before USC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkiss24 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Whoops forgot it was moments 1. First half 2010 afc championship game...Rex didn’t have his team ready to play for the championship game just terrible. Add in the comeback that ultimately fell short and we all went home feeling cheated2.herm Edwards taking knees in Pittsburg....do I need to explain this one?3. Keith Byars fumble in 1998 afc championship game.....at 15 this was my first true heartbreak by this team and the Byars fumble is always etched into my mind4. Xmas eve victor cruz: ugh why did I go through all of this for this threadSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, SAR I said: It's just like the Jets to finally unearth the franchise quarterback prospect we've been searching for since Vietnam and treat him like a Communist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Worst of all time was not a mistake but was in fact a greedy business decision. After SB III the ownership began treating the franchise like a cheap rental property wringing out profit in lieu of the annual reinvesting needed for a strong supporting cast for #12 which in turn destroyed his career. Martin Hess Iselin etc should have been ashamed of themselves but hey it was their franchise to run into the ground and they did exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I have not been a jet fan nearly as long as most here but one that I raged at and and almost kicked my tv in was Eric Barton roughing vs San diego letting them kick the game tieing FG. Jets won in overtime but I was totally enraged at the stupidity of that play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: I have not been a jet fan nearly as long as most here but one that I raged at and and almost kicked my tv in was Eric Barton roughing vs San diego letting them kick the game tieing FG. Jets won in overtime but I was totally enraged at the stupidity of that play Nate Kaeding sees the Jets in his nightmares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: I knew it was coming! I knew it! IT WAS INEVITABLE. The SAR I token Sanchez post. The truth hurts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Although totally not his fault mo Lewis killing bledsoe and thus launching bradys career would have to be mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: Although totally not his fault mo Lewis killing bledsoe and thus launching bradys career would have to be mentioned. The question with that is was it just speeding up the inevitable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Nate Kaeding sees the Jets in his nightmares That was a part on schottenheimer, as soon as they got in FG range he played for the longer kick when they were steam rolling down the field. Then a week later Herm does the same damn thing when Brien missed the FG.(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Granted I'm not old enough to go back to all of the SOJF moments, but mine: Parcells (for not guaranteeing Peyton would be the #1 overall pick) Doug OBrien (Yes, Hermie and Pennyboy deserve their share of the blame here, but at the end of the day, two missed makeable FGs are what they are) Some sort of facial combination of all of the good players we passed on in various drafts Some sort of facial combination of all of the sh*tty draft picks by Tannenbaum, Idzik, and Mac I think your #1 is without a doubt #1 all time. Not only an enormous blunder that destroyed years of fun and success and super bowls...how jetsy. But seriously, can it be can anymore Jetsy than the best coach they ever had, the best success they ever had besides one year in 68, Parcells literally saved this franchise...at the time....and then yet, at the same time diabolically destroyed it for , at least, the next 20 years, first, with Peyton staying (in school), second with Belicheck leaving (to a divisional rival). All because of the same guy who was like, the best thing to ever happen to it (at the time) So Jetsy, like text book definition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: The question with that is was it just speeding up the inevitable? People have said that but this league is totally built on opportunity and breaks for players drafted later. Many guys never get that break and then there are guys like Brady, kurt warner that get their chance due to injury and roll with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: People have said that but this league is totally built on opportunity and breaks for players drafted later. Many guys never get that break and then there are guys like Brady, kurt warner that get their chance due to injury and roll with it. The thing to remember was that those teams were mainly built around defense. By 2007 Brady became the star of the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, SouthernJet said: I will start: 1 - New owner Johnson making parcells totally leave organization as he promised year before (when Hess promised Belichick he would have TOTAL control following year when Tuna retired). Instead Tuna decides to stay as President and Belichick , not being stupid, says BS, I've been in his shadow my whole career and if he is Prez of team and I start out 2-5, he will come back to sideline. No trophies cause Parcells decided he wanted to stay since new owner would allow it (Hess promised Belichick 100% control) 2 - Is a penalty a mistake? Gastineau roughing Kosar on meaningless last gasp play that allowed Browns to win game and cost us a AFC Champ/SB berth. We were better than Denver that year (they beat Browns following week on 98 yd drive). I think we would have had home field for that game. 3 - Lam Jones #1 pick in draft 4 - Not having own stadium Isn’t it the 4 HCs on SAR I’s pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, SouthernJet said: I will start: 1 - New owner Johnson making parcells totally leave organization as he promised year before (when Hess promised Belichick he would have TOTAL control following year when Tuna retired). Instead Tuna decides to stay as President and Belichick , not being stupid, says BS, I've been in his shadow my whole career and if he is Prez of team and I start out 2-5, he will come back to sideline. No trophies cause Parcells decided he wanted to stay since new owner would allow it (Hess promised Belichick 100% control) 2 - Is a penalty a mistake? Gastineau roughing Kosar on meaningless last gasp play that allowed Browns to win game and cost us a AFC Champ/SB berth. We were better than Denver that year (they beat Browns following week on 98 yd drive). I think we would have had home field for that game. 3 - Lam Jones #1 pick in draft 4 - Not having own stadium 1. That was on BP and I believe BB's original contract he knew BP would move upstairs but that he would have control. The issue was BP never let BB in on his plans even though he knew he wasn't coming back. That wasn't on Woody, it was on BP. 2. That penalty kept the Browns hopes alive, it didn't win the game for the Browns. we had a million chances but we couldn't score w/ legendary ken O'Brien under C after Pat Ryan got hurt. 3. Draft mistakes happen every year for every team, that didn't set the franchise back. we were 30 mins from the SB w/ him starting. 4. This is overblown. It would be great to have our own Stadium but our win% at Giants Stadium was higher than at Shea. If you have talent they will win anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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