playtowinthegame Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I expect to see Jack Del Rio's name added to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I like Williams. Kacy Rodgers and his whispering showed on the field. Williams will get in the faces of these millennial punks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: If Gregg Williams is so good, why is he constantly looking for work? Why is he constantly getting work if he's so bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 What? He was 53-43 as a head coach. Three playoff appearances. AFC Title Game appearance. One losing season in six years. He's Vince Lombardi compared to Bowles.1) One of the playoff appearances was Arians. Though he returned just in time to lead them to a playoff loss. 2) The AFC South was awful the next two years. In 2013, the Jaguars went 4-12 and the Texans 2-14. The next year, the Jags fell to 3-13 while the Titans went 2-14. Having Andrew Luck was literally all that was necessary to get in the playoffs. Once there, Luck and luck was needed to advance. 3) In said AFC title game, they got absolutely obliterated by Belichick and the Patriots 45-17 in a game that was not as close as the score indicated. 4) Once the division strengthened, he went .500 twice and then bottomed out to 4-12 without Luck. 5) A defensive minded head coach, the Colts ranked 20th, 11th, 26th, 30th, and 30th in total defense in his five years. And if you insist on crediting him with the Arians year so you can squeeze an extra playoff appearance, the defense ranked 26th. Without him, the defense immediately shot up to 11th this year. 6) Remember that SNF game against the Patriots where he called the worst play of all time?I absolutely believe Bowles could have stepped in his shoes and done the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Because he's an insane hired assassin. LOL. That's pretty much it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, bitonti said: how bullcrap is it the team is already planning to fire the dude they hired yesterday You think what that dude just posted is true and coming from the Jets???? Wtf is wrong with people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 They’ll probably hire Rex’s brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Let's take sides and argue! I'm team the obvious smart choice ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, choon328 said: Why is he constantly getting work if he's so bad? Where did I say he was bad? I think he’s an average DC and the Jets fan do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Dcat said: on the subject of Vance Joseph (this has NOTHING to do with his coaching skills): In my 50+ years of watching NFL football, the absolute single worst game day performance by a DB, bar none, was what Joseph let the Raiders (mainly Tim Brown) burn him for the entire 4 quarters. Long reception after long reception. TD after TD. All Vance Joseph's way. It was a Sunday night game. It traumatized me. That's all on Kotite. Joseph was a backup QB in college. Who knows what the hell he was thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Warfish said: Just about everyone wants Williams, rightfully so. The Hive Mind is usually right. Usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dcat said: on the subject of Vance Joseph (this has NOTHING to do with his coaching skills): In my 50+ years of watching NFL football, the absolute single worst game day performance by a DB, bar none, was what Joseph let the Raiders (mainly Tim Brown) burn him for the entire 4 quarters. Long reception after long reception. TD after TD. All Vance Joseph's way. It was a Sunday night game. It traumatized me. It probably traumatized Vance Joseph too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, MasterChiefJets said: William's success speaks for itself as a DC. If they are going the McVay route, they need a strong DC so the HC can focus on the offense. What success as a DC has he had in the last 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Not in love with Joseph, but his players loved him, and players were all about Williams and Pagano, too. This is big balls stuff by Gase to even consider hiring three former head coaches who could replace him at any time, as opposed to Tood, who hired undesirable skells who posed no threat to him. Exactly. Bowles was timid in just about all aspect of coaching, including his assistant coach choices. No alphas amongst his group. Gase seems to be looking at top-drawer assistants to make his coaching staff better, no matter what the personal risk. That shows self-confidence and guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, slats said: That's all on Kotite. Joseph was a backup QB in college. Who knows what the hell he was thinking? Yup. Joseph had been playing CB for about 10 minutes, and Kotite decided to play him in single coverage on future Hall of Famer Tim Brown on Sunday night primetime. Ahhh, memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, The Troll said: 1) One of the playoff appearances was Arians. Though he returned just in time to lead them to a playoff loss. 2) The AFC South was awful the next two years. In 2013, the Jaguars went 4-12 and the Texans 2-14. The next year, the Jags fell to 3-13 while the Titans went 2-14. Having Andrew Luck was literally all that was necessary to get in the playoffs. Once there, Luck and luck was needed to advance. 3) In said AFC title game, they got absolutely obliterated by Belichick and the Patriots 45-17 in a game that was not as close as the score indicated. 4) Once the division strengthened, he went .500 twice and then bottomed out to 4-12 without Luck. 5) A defensive minded head coach, the Colts ranked 20th, 11th, 26th, 30th, and 30th in total defense in his five years. And if you insist on crediting him with the Arians year so you can squeeze an extra playoff appearance, the defense ranked 26th. Without him, the defense immediately shot up to 11th this year. 6) Remember that SNF game against the Patriots where he called the worst play of all time? I absolutely believe Bowles could have stepped in his shoes and done the exact same thing. To each their own. You can make excuses for Bowles or tear down Pagano's accomplishments but the results speak for themselves, IMO. Pagano had a decent run. Bowles was an abject failure buy any measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Exactly. Bowles was timid in just about all aspect of coaching, including his assistant coach choices. No alphas amongst his group. Gase seems to be looking at top-drawer assistants to make his coaching staff better, no matter what the personal risk. That shows self-confidence and guts. Or he was told that he could not bring his lousy staff with him from Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 As someone who watches the Colts closely...just say no to Pagano. As for Vance Joseph....apparently he's in AZ right now interviewing with KK for their DC job.....I guess we first have to officially announce Gase, but let's lock up Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Exactly. Bowles was timid in just about all aspect of coaching, including his assistant coach choices. No alphas amongst his group. Gase seems to be looking at top-drawer assistants to make his coaching staff better, no matter what the personal risk. That shows self-confidence and guts. It’s alpha behavior which is why it resonates with me. cc: @Pac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDistanceJetsFan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I just hope they keep the special teams coach Boyer, and new QB coach McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Exactly. Bowles was timid in just about all aspect of coaching, including his assistant coach choices. No alphas amongst his group. Gase seems to be looking at top-drawer assistants to make his coaching staff better, no matter what the personal risk. That shows self-confidence and guts. he is loaded with self confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Tomshane already said something similar, but these names give me hope that Gase has and is willing to learn from his previous failures. Go out and get top notch, experienced coordinators on the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, SR24 said: He has been continiously employeed in the NFL since 1990........ Wasn’t he suspended for a bit over that mess with the Saints? Definitely left a mark on his reputation. He’s obviously overcome it and adapted to being a less maniacal DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, The Troll said: I know he’s been a great DC in the past, but...Pagano was Bowles level awful as a head coach. I have a hard time getting excited about a guy like that. He sucked as a HC but as a DC in Baltimore he fielded better defenses than both Rex and Mike Nolan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, SR24 said: Pagano came outta nowhere. Wasn't sure if I should put this in the Williams thread or start a new one Gase might just decide to keep the 3-4 so Pagano entering the conversation makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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