Gase’s Offense; Tannehill Held Him Back; NY Jets Film Review

[JetNation]

The Jets hired Adam Gase to be the new head coach, and the decision was met with widespread skepticism, of which some have dissipated. The main point of contention is the lack of progress from Ryan Tannehill, and the putrid offensive rankings of the Dolphins when led by the so-called offensive genius.

We break down film from two games (Patriots/Jets) early in the season to show why Adam Gase’s offense is not entirely at fault for the terrible rankings, and why Ryan Tannehill plays a major role in limiting the offensive potential.  We will look at other games from the season as we move through the off-season.

1.

This is a pass that goes for 0 yards to Albert Wilson, but it looks like a bad read from Tannehill.  The Dolphins go empty backfield, with 3 receivers stacked to the left side of the formation, and 2 on the other side on a 1^st and 10 play.  The team is running a pick play to the right side of the formation, while they are running a quick screen to the left side of the formation.  However, look at the defense on this play, because they dedicated four defenders to three receivers to the left side, and threw a linebacker in there to take away the quick inside slant.  Essentially, the entire defense is playing a throw to the outside, while the linebacker inside the slot receiver has the sole function to prevent a quick inside slant.  Once the inside slant is taken off the table, the linebacker rushes the QB since his task is completed.  Tannehill is playing right into this defense, when the other side of the field is set up much better for a completion.  The pick play should cause one of the receivers to break free, and in this case both receivers are open.  The quick slant to the middle of the field is open with a trailing linebacker, and the route to the TE is open as a one on one match up with the safety.  On the outset, this play looks like a bad set up by Gase, but they have the built-in option to beat this defense on the other side of the field.  Unfortunately, Tannehill doesn’t read it at the line, even though his first look is to his right side.  He comes off the read before the pick play even takes effect.

2.

The very next play, and there are glaring issues once again.  The main problem from Tannehill on this play is the post snap read.  The Dolphins have a double move down the sideline with Albert Wilson (guarded by Gilmore), and Tannehill locks in on the match up.  The problem is really the deep safety and that is the biggest read here for this throw.  The Dolphins are running a post route in combination with the stop and go route, and it’s designed to occupy the safety.  If the safety bites on the post, then the outside route will have a much better shot.  If the safety doesn’t bite (as was the case here) then the post route is practically wide open for a sizable gain.  All Tannehill has to do on the play is read the safety and know he’s sitting on the go route from Wilson, so the post route will have a much better shot.  However, the QB takes the deep option with an impossible throw.  The cornerback is only a step behind so anything under-thrown will be contested, while the safety is over the top, thus anything overthrown will be picked off.  The two defenders will converge on the receiver by the time the throw reaches the target area, making a miraculous catch the best case scenario.  They are lucky this ball isn’t intercepted.  Once again, I can’t blame this pass on Gase, because there is a built in counter to this defense, which Tannehill ignores completely.  However, I am going to blame Gase for the route concept from Albert Wilson.  The young receiver establishes outside leverage on this play, while running a stop and go, which is perfectly fine.  The biggest issue is his fake stop move to the outside, which doesn’t fool the cornerback.  Why is he faking to the outside?  He is running right near the sidelines, at which point, Gilmore doesn’t have to turn his hips because there is a very small window for a throw to the outside.  Why isn’t the fake towards the inside, so Gilmore is forced to turn his hips, which would allow for a better release?  Hip manipulation is vital in pulling off a double move and this set up has minimal cause for reaction from the defender.

3.

The very next play, so we’re talking the entire drive here.  Tannehill does call an audible on the play, so it’s not clear how much of the blame falls on Gase and the staff.  The clear first read is Amendola from the slot, who is open for a brief moment at the first down marker.  Tannehill is staring him down from the get-go, but doesn’t pull the trigger, opting to make a difficult throw to the outside.  Don’t pay attention to the throw, since Tannehill was hit as he was making this throw, which is why it’s well off target.  The bigger issue is that he has a receiver with at 1-2 step separation running down the field, but instead picks the guy that is extremely well covered.  This is just a bad read once again, where possibly open receivers weren’t targeted because of terrible post-snap reads.  Another thing to notice is the set up for Tannehill because notice how long he takes to rewind himself, after moving on from Amendola.  This is why Dan Orlovsky was talking about “magical sloppiness” from Sam Darnold, because he doesn’t always need to reset his feet perfectly to make a good throw.  If Tannehiill could have sped up his set up on the play, he would not have gotten hit, allowing for a great chance of completion.   Once again, it’s an audible play so I’m not sure how much of the blame can go on Gase here, but a heavy dose can be placed on the QB.

4.

There are 2 receivers running wide open down the middle of the field with open space on 1^st down, and Tannehill throws it right to the defender, and once again is lucky it’s not intercepted.  This isn’t a complicated breakdown, because the read is the late rushing linebacker.  If the linebacker stays with the receiver, then Tannehill has space to run to the outside or hit Gore in stride for a sizable gain.  If the linebacker disengages the receiver, then you have two passing options instead of a pass or run option.  This is a play that you just can’t miss, and the QB misses spectacularly.

5.

The play call has free receivers to both sides of the formation as dump off passes that should get at least 4-5 yards, if not more, but Tannehill decides to throw this pass to the receiver who is double covered.  The Patriots are well ahead by now, so they are willing to allow dump off passes and defending the deep routes.  However, by adamantly focusing on throwing deeper passes, you are playing right into their comfort zone.

To be completely honest, I don’t want to put his game against the Jets in this article, because the Jets might be one of the worst coached teams in the league.  When reading this, remember Tannehill finished 17/23 with 2 TDs and a 123.1 passer rating.   I’m placing it in the article because everyone here is familiar with the defense.

6.

This play call is absolutely idiotic from the Jets’ defense, considering it’s 3^rd and 8.  The Jets have two deep safeties, with a linebacker dropping deep like it’s an end of the half situation.  The Dolphins have a myriad of crossing routes, with at least two wide open.  There is a two-tiered crossing pattern from the left side of the formation, with the second player easily open for a pass.  From the right side of the formation, there is another crossing pattern with a receiver that doesn’t have any defender near him whatsoever.  The Jets triple team the running back out of the backfield here essentially, as you can see the linebacker (Lee) follow the running back from the start.  This aspect of the play is fine and dandy.  However, Trumaine Johnson hands over his receiver to…….open space, so he can double team the running back out of the backfield on 3^rd and long.  Jamal Adams also is looking at the running and creeping towards the sideline, thus making it a 3 on 1 match-up.  All Ryan Tannehill has to do here is avoid throwing it to the running back, and this is an easy conversion.  Nevertheless, determined to cheer up Todd Bowles, he helps the Jets escape by throwing it to the one guy that is well covered, and the receiver is stopped short of the first down.  On the Jets’ side, there aren’t any explanations for this defense because they let two receivers roam wide open in the middle of the field.

7.

This is another negative play from Tannehill,  as you can see how he botches a perfect opportunity.  The Jets blitz with Jamal Adams, and they have a tight end come across the formation to pick up the blitz on this play action play.  Notice the direction of this play action, as it’s towards the right side of the formation.  The whole purpose of the play action is to draw in the linebackers (which is exactly what happens) and hold the safety (which is exactly what happens).  The play is set up perfectly to throw the comeback route to the left of the formation because the Jets’ defender is giving up space, and the receiver is open for this route.  Tannehill even looks at the receiver as his first read, and inexplicably peels off to the covered options on the other side of the field.  In the meantime, Adams has now evaded the TE, and chases down Tannehill for the strip sack, which is recovered by the Dolphins.  This is another case, where the play design worked EXACTLY as planned, yet Tannehill made the wrong read.  Ryan Tannehill has a lot of tools, but his ability to read defenses is sorely lacking, and it hampered Gase’s offense.

8.

This play isn’t as egregious as the others, but once again you see an opportunity to convert on third down foiled by the QB’s ineptitude.  The Dolphins run a three-tiered slant against zone, and Tannehill has the opportunity to hit at least two of them.  Nonetheless, Tannehill holds onto the ball and eventually gets sacked, when once again the defense had given him a good chance to convert.

9.

How can you miss this throw?  Remember the stats from the game for Tannehill.

10.

Adam Gase goes for the kill shot here, and gets a receiver with at least 2 steps ahead of the nearest defender, and Tannehill flat out misses him.  The Jets are caught in a zone defense here with the safety turned around to the wrong side.  It’s clear the corner-back expects safety help over the top, but it never materializes as the safety goes towards the middle of the field.  If the safety doesn’t go over to the middle of the field, then the slot receiver from the right side of the formation is going to open for a sizable gain.  If the safety doesn’t go to the middle of the field, but Jamal Adams takes the slot receiver over the top, then the outside receiver from the right side of the field is going to be open down the sideline.  You can see how the progression is set up from left to right for Tannehill, but he has his first option wide open.  It’s a great set up by the Dolphins, especially because Todd Bowles is playing “What would I do” defense and expecting a run up the middle with the lead.

Conclusion:

Adam Gase is not perfect by any means, as we will explore later in the off-season.  However, his offensive system was extremely limited by the inability of Ryan Tannehill to make post-snap reads, which thwarted numerous opportunities for easy yardage and first downs.  I’m not making the argument that Gase would be the poster child for offensive innovation with a good QB, but judging by purely stats is an empty exercise.  Tannehill has the physical ability to make every throw in the book, and enough mobility to be a threat in the running game, but his play recognition is definitely not up to standard.  These are just two games I’ve looked at, since Jets fans are familiar with both of the defenses.  I’ll look at other games from this past season as the off-season rolls on to highlight the reason why Miami might trade up in the upcoming draft for a QB.  Furthermore, we will examine some of the shortcomings of Gase’s passing offense as well because he certainly wasn’t perfect.

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[Charlie Brown]

Just Great Work!!!

The Post gives me hope!

[nyjunc]

Nice piece.  It was always funny when people would argue with me and tell me how good tannehill was.  He was always a better stat guy than actual QB (a poor man's Eli).  People just like to look at out of context numbers, I argued for days and weeks how he kept us in that game and how Gase didn't trust him late in the game but his numbers looked good.

I was always impressed with Gase from afar, I didn't watch Miami as close as I did the Jets so I didn't see all his warts but he looked good to me.  I knew the hiring wouldn't be popular but I liked it from the start.  Gase and Sam are going to form an excellent pair, he finally has a QB to work with.  He got the most out of the mediocre guys in Miami, now if he gets the most out if Sam watch out.

[NYJ1]

It's easier to illustrate the problem Gase was faced with merely by the following:

1) Tannehill played in only HALF of the games Gase coached during his Dolphins tenure. So he's not exactly the picture of reliability.

2) When Tannehill was healthy, his play was sporadic at best. Sometimes pretty good, but mostly below average.

I submit you simply can't win with a QB that limited. This is to say nothing about below average talent on the rest of the team. Gase did his best with a bad situation.

[Integrity28]

55 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Nice piece.  It was always funny when people would argue with me and tell me how good tannehill was.  He was always a better stat guy than actual QB (a poor man's Eli).  People just like to look at out of context numbers, I argued for days and weeks how he kept us in that game and how Gase didn't trust him late in the game but his numbers looked good.

I was always impressed with Gase from afar, I didn't watch Miami as close as I did the Jets so I didn't see all his warts but he looked good to me.  I knew the hiring wouldn't be popular but I liked it from the start.  Gase and Sam are going to form an excellent pair, he finally has a QB to work with.  He got the most out of the mediocre guys in Miami, now if he gets the most out if Sam watch out.

lol, npd

[Integrity28]

Really, really great content @Maxman and crew. 

[nyjunc]

3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

lol, npd

Let me guess, the teddy bear man was one of the posters trying to argue with me? You'll never learn.

[Joe W. Namath]

Gase loved Tannehill though.  Never wanted to look for or draft another qb.

So is it concerning that if this article is true, why didnt gase realize this?

[nyjunc]

7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Gase loved Tannehill though.  Never wanted to look for or draft another qb.

So is it concerning that if this article is true, why didnt gase realize this?

Do we know that or was he just defending him through the media showing he had his QBs back?

 

[Jetster]

16 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Gase loved Tannehill though.  Never wanted to look for or draft another qb.

So is it concerning that if this article is true, why didnt gase realize this?

Maybe he already knew he wasn't being supported by Ross in Miami & had an eye on leaving anyway? He gets fired, Bowles gets fired, he goes instantly to a young franchise QB without having to find one. Gase wanted this gig bad. Outside of Cleveland with Mayfield the Jets were the best opportunity for an offensive HC. 

[Philc1]

1 hour ago, nyjunc said:

Nice piece.  It was always funny when people would argue with me and tell me how good tannehill was.  He was always a better stat guy than actual QB (a poor man's Eli).  People just like to look at out of context numbers, I argued for days and weeks how he kept us in that game and how Gase didn't trust him late in the game but his numbers looked good.

I was always impressed with Gase from afar, I didn't watch Miami as close as I did the Jets so I didn't see all his warts but he looked good to me.  I knew the hiring wouldn't be popular but I liked it from the start.  Gase and Sam are going to form an excellent pair, he finally has a QB to work with.  He got the most out of the mediocre guys in Miami, now if he gets the most out if Sam watch out.

Only reason Tannehill had “good stats” was he was a check down artist

[Joe W. Namath]

23 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Do we know that or was he just defending him through the media showing he had his QBs back?

 

In 3 years he never tried to address the position.  Either through free agency or the draft.  He believed tannehill was the guy.

[New York Mick]

5 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Only reason Tannehill had “good stats” was he was a check down artist

He had a couple of descent to good receivers and RBs that helped as well. 

[Jet Nut]

48 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Gase loved Tannehill though.  Never wanted to look for or draft another qb.

So is it concerning that if this article is true, why didnt gase realize this?

That's not true.  Publically he praised him, as he should.  But there was talk that he was trying to trade up to draft A QB.  

Have to come with another concern.

[The Crusher]

16 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

In 3 years he never tried to address the position.  Either through free agency or the draft.  He believed tannehill was the guy.

Then I guess we can be happy we already got our QB on the roster then? 

[Jet Nut]

16 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

In 3 years he never tried to address the position.  Either through free agency or the draft.  He believed tannehill was the guy.

Not according to reports

[FTL Jet Fan]

20 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

In 3 years he never tried to address the position.  Either through free agency or the draft.  He believed tannehill was the guy.

It was almost like Tannehill or nothing for the Fins. Tanny paid him too much money and Gase was saddled with Tannehill.  I think what frustrated Gase was that he knew there was some talent in RT but he was so  inconsistent, had problems with the deep ball, and had a hard time reading the  defense.

[Adoni Beast]

53 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Gase loved Tannehill though.  Never wanted to look for or draft another qb.

So is it concerning that if this article is true, why didnt gase realize this?

Not true, he wanted to trade up for Mayfield if he were available around 5/6. Loved Darnold but knew he wouldn’t fall past 3, and assumed he was going to Cleveland at 1.

[roscoeword]

Love posts like this that give us something to look forward to in the off season. Keep 'em coming.

[Warfish]

Got to love excuses.

[nyjunc]

43 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

In 3 years he never tried to address the position.  Either through free agency or the draft.  He believed tannehill was the guy.

He did basically make the playoffs with him when he was healthy year 1 then he missed all of year 2 and they were in the playoff race into late year 3.  

[JetFaninMI]

Looks like an astute evaluation. We will see how it goes in TC.

Keep in mind that Sam will be learning a new offense, with new terminology. In the early part of next season I think Sam and the offense will struggle a bit as they get it down. That's why I am puzzled about all this talk of playoffs in 2019. The realistic goal is getting over .500 and staying there. They gotta walk before they can run. I think they start slow, win some they shouldn't, lose a heart breaker, finish strong and wind up 8-8. A stepping stone season on the way to greatness.

Or they totally suck, Gase and Macc are fired and we are starting all over again! Hopefully its the above.

 

[k-met57]

19 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Got to love excuses.

first of all great read.

but unfortunately this team has gotten me to the point where i am not interested in why. Gase put his name on those 3 seasons, Tennehill or not....and he needs to do much better for the next 3. For the record i think Tennehill stinks...and i hold it against Gase that he stuck with him.

btw if the jets do nothing in the off-season to address the lack of play-makers and offensive linemen i put that on Gase as well....you dont take the job and put your name on it without knowing some of the variables upfront.

[#27TheDominator]

Tannehill his a weird deal.  I think he started out as WR at A&M and didn't take over as starter until halfway through his junior year.  His college coach at A&M was Mike Sherman and it was a checkdown offense.  Sherman got canned and became OC in Miami for Philbin's first two years, before he got dumped and went on to a losing record coaching high school. Tannehill was Sherman's boy, and Gase was probably hired hoping to straighten him out. 

[FTL Jet Fan]

Gase had to deal with RT's limited style of play, especially since he was a converted WR who only played QB for about a year. Since Tannehill's arrival in miami coaches were limited to his style of play especially with Sherman. Gase had to adapt to RT style of play and many times as seen in other posts RT would not execute properly.  I am not making excuses for Gase but what I do like is that he said he's going to taylor his offense to Sam's strengths and style of play. Time will tell.

[FidelioJet]

Thanks for putting this together.  Very interesting stuff.  But....

Gase was not a good coach in Miami and his offenses were putrid - at the bottom of the league and got consistently worse each of this three years.

Maybe he can turn it around - I certainly hope he does.

But let's not try and sugar coat it.

[Philc1]

2 hours ago, New York Mick said:

He had a couple of descent to good receivers and RBs that helped as well. 

Tannehill is and always was hot garbage

[Philc1]

1 hour ago, Adoni Beast said:

Not true, he wanted to trade up for Mayfield if he were available around 5/6. Loved Darnold but knew he wouldn’t fall past 3, and assumed he was going to Cleveland at 1.

Plus he decided to bench Tannehill 

[New York Mick]

4 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Tannehill is and always was hot garbage

He’s a jag

[tfine]

Tannehill has a monster contract. The front office was not going to let Gase find another QB after they just paid him a ton of money. That would look bad


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[ChuckkieB]

Tannehill is a mutt and whether Gase wanted to move on from him or not is not the issue.  The issue was bringing out the best in the players you have to work with.  Did Gase do that with Tannehill? I don't know the answer but IMO Tannelhill is / was a stiff and you can't bleed water from a stone.  Definitely looking forward what he can do with Darnold.   

[Integrity28]

6 hours ago, nyjunc said:

Let me guess, the teddy bear man was one of the posters trying to argue with me? You'll never learn.

No. Tannehill sucks.

I fall into the camp of watching you use dishonest debate tactics to make yourself feel like you won on the Internet. Then laughing at you.

My reply had nothing to do with your lame arguments.

[nyjunc]

1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

No. Tannehill sucks.

I fall into the camp of watching you use dishonest debate tactics to make yourself feel like you won on the Internet. Then laughing at you.

My reply had nothing to do with your lame arguments.

Thanks for your input, as you know I truly value your opinion ?

[Integrity28]

1 minute ago, nyjunc said:

Thanks for your input, as you know I truly value your opinion ?

Not as much as you value your own opinion.

[win4ever]

18 hours ago, nyjunc said:

Nice piece.  It was always funny when people would argue with me and tell me how good tannehill was.  He was always a better stat guy than actual QB (a poor man's Eli).  People just like to look at out of context numbers, I argued for days and weeks how he kept us in that game and how Gase didn't trust him late in the game but his numbers looked good.

I was always impressed with Gase from afar, I didn't watch Miami as close as I did the Jets so I didn't see all his warts but he looked good to me.  I knew the hiring wouldn't be popular but I liked it from the start.  Gase and Sam are going to form an excellent pair, he finally has a QB to work with.  He got the most out of the mediocre guys in Miami, now if he gets the most out if Sam watch out.

Tannehill is weird, because he has the talent.  If you are going on pure athletic ability, I think he's on par with Deshaun Watson.  He can do everything Watson does, but the problem is that he doesn't make the correct reads, and almost decides beforehand where the pass must go.  There were plenty of times where he had the options, and he just didn't see it or hesitated to the point the play didn't develop.  

This now becomes an egg or the chicken question.  Does Tannehill's lack of progression fall on Gase? Does Gase's lack of success fall on Tannehill?  I'm not bothered with 2017, because fat Cutler off the bench isn't going to win anywhere.  To me, without Tannehill progressing to read defenses at a good level, they couldn't overcome it.  There are guys that aren't good with reading defenses (Tribusky is one) that still do well because they match their personnel well.  In Chicago's case, they had Cohen, Robinson, Miller, and the ability to play with a lead.  The Fins got post Pats Amendola, Stills, Wilson (who promptly got hurt) Drake/Gore, and Parker.  It didn't quite match up.   

It'll be interesting to see how they develop, because Sam has some qualities that Tannehill lacked.  It's paramount they set him up with better weapons though.  

 

17 hours ago, NYJ1 said:

It's easier to illustrate the problem Gase was faced with merely by the following:

1) Tannehill played in only HALF of the games Gase coached during his Dolphins tenure. So he's not exactly the picture of reliability.

2) When Tannehill was healthy, his play was sporadic at best. Sometimes pretty good, but mostly below average.

I submit you simply can't win with a QB that limited. This is to say nothing about below average talent on the rest of the team. Gase did his best with a bad situation.

It also stems from the offensive philosophy being limited by injuries.  

Tannehill has his strengths/weaknesses.  The backup (Moore) has his as well.  However, the problem is that you can't really mesh one strength with another.  For example, Moore has no real arm strength, but he's better at reading defenses.  So your gameplan has to go with more intermediate routes, where Tannehill can deal with more routes that run deep.  So the injury and change to game plans hurt because you can't go for the strengths of each guy separately, since there isn't time.  

17 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Really, really great content @Maxman and crew. 

Thanks

21 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

Just Great Work!!!

The Post gives me hope!

Thanks.  

It should, although maybe in a bit, I have some concerns about the receivers.  Parker not developing really bothers me, because I was very high on him, and he's shown flashes.  Some of the route combinations puzzled me, because they seemed like 3/4 individual routes, than a combination of routes.  For example, there would be a go route to the outside, and out route on the same side.  On the other side, it'd be a curl and out route combination, when the middle of the field would be wide open in such a situation.  

16 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Gase loved Tannehill though.  Never wanted to look for or draft another qb.

So is it concerning that if this article is true, why didnt gase realize this?

I don't think he had a choice in the matter.  The dead money hit if you dropped him would be massive once he was already extended.  

Heck, they can't really even cut him now without getting a $13 million hit in dead money, and they barely have cap space.  

16 hours ago, Jetster said:

Maybe he already knew he wasn't being supported by Ross in Miami & had an eye on leaving anyway? He gets fired, Bowles gets fired, he goes instantly to a young franchise QB without having to find one. Gase wanted this gig bad. Outside of Cleveland with Mayfield the Jets were the best opportunity for an offensive HC. 

The problem really is that team is heading for a rebuild and I don't think he wanted to stick around.  

That team might need a good RB, maybe 2 good receivers (assuming Parker and maybe Amendola are cut), and offensive line, resign/replace Wake, decide on Quinn, and possibly find a RT and they start out with $13 million in cap space.  

That's getting awfully close to tear down, especially if Tannehill is not the guy, and they need to find a QB.  I just don't think he wanted to stay for a rebuild because this was going to be another losing season, at which point he would have been fired anyway.  It probably (and this is my guess) went down as if he asked for an extension to outlast the rebuild, and got rejected.  

16 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

In 3 years he never tried to address the position.  Either through free agency or the draft.  He believed tannehill was the guy.

He couldn't, not with that contract.  

16 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

That's not true.  Publically he praised him, as he should.  But there was talk that he was trying to trade up to draft A QB.  

Have to come with another concern.

I heard some rumblings they were hard after Rosen last year, but didn't trade up.  I think it's hard because that contract can't be swallowed when they are up against the cap like that.  

16 hours ago, FTL Jet Fan said:

It was almost like Tannehill or nothing for the Fins. Tanny paid him too much money and Gase was saddled with Tannehill.  I think what frustrated Gase was that he knew there was some talent in RT but he was so  inconsistent, had problems with the deep ball, and had a hard time reading the  defense.

Tannehill had all the physical tools, he just couldn't put it together on the mental aspect.  The injury history doesn't help for sure, but mostly it's the late conversion.  Someone like Darnold/Mayfield can sense guys being open, while Tannehill waits that extra second.  

15 hours ago, Adoni Beast said:

Not true, he wanted to trade up for Mayfield if he were available around 5/6. Loved Darnold but knew he wouldn’t fall past 3, and assumed he was going to Cleveland at 1.

I never heard about Mayfield, I heard about Rosen though, albeit they never did anything to trade up.  

15 hours ago, roscoeword said:

Love posts like this that give us something to look forward to in the off season. Keep 'em coming.

Thanks.  

15 hours ago, nyjunc said:

He did basically make the playoffs with him when he was healthy year 1 then he missed all of year 2 and they were in the playoff race into late year 3.  

And their best receiver, Wilson, missed the second half of the season as well.  

15 hours ago, JetFaninMI said:

Looks like an astute evaluation. We will see how it goes in TC.

Keep in mind that Sam will be learning a new offense, with new terminology. In the early part of next season I think Sam and the offense will struggle a bit as they get it down. That's why I am puzzled about all this talk of playoffs in 2019. The realistic goal is getting over .500 and staying there. They gotta walk before they can run. I think they start slow, win some they shouldn't, lose a heart breaker, finish strong and wind up 8-8. A stepping stone season on the way to greatness.

Or they totally suck, Gase and Macc are fired and we are starting all over again! Hopefully its the above.

 

While I think playoffs is way too premature now, next season really depends on the talent around Darnold.  If they can get another weapon at receiver and a good running back, while drafting OL, I think the offense can really take off. 

15 hours ago, k-met57 said:

first of all great read.

but unfortunately this team has gotten me to the point where i am not interested in why. Gase put his name on those 3 seasons, Tennehill or not....and he needs to do much better for the next 3. For the record i think Tennehill stinks...and i hold it against Gase that he stuck with him.

btw if the jets do nothing in the off-season to address the lack of play-makers and offensive linemen i put that on Gase as well....you dont take the job and put your name on it without knowing some of the variables upfront.

The team definitely needs to upgrade some positions, especially WR1, RB, and pretty much everywhere on the OL.  

15 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

Tannehill his a weird deal.  I think he started out as WR at A&M and didn't take over as starter until halfway through his junior year.  His college coach at A&M was Mike Sherman and it was a checkdown offense.  Sherman got canned and became OC in Miami for Philbin's first two years, before he got dumped and went on to a losing record coaching high school. Tannehill was Sherman's boy, and Gase was probably hired hoping to straighten him out. 

Tannehill suffers from an inability to read complex defenses.  If there is an open guy, he can hit him, and it'll look pretty.  But when he has to anticipate based on what the defense adjusts to post-snap, he holds onto the ball too long to see what develops and that limits him.  I actually have to say, it's a testament to his physical abilities that he's been decent in the NFL because I think he has the ability.  He just can't make that mental jump. 

14 hours ago, FTL Jet Fan said:

Gase had to deal with RT's limited style of play, especially since he was a converted WR who only played QB for about a year. Since Tannehill's arrival in miami coaches were limited to his style of play especially with Sherman. Gase had to adapt to RT style of play and many times as seen in other posts RT would not execute properly.  I am not making excuses for Gase but what I do like is that he said he's going to taylor his offense to Sam's strengths and style of play. Time will tell.

They also had to deal with a terrible OL too, albeit he faces the same issue here.

14 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Thanks for putting this together.  Very interesting stuff.  But....

Gase was not a good coach in Miami and his offenses were putrid - at the bottom of the league and got consistently worse each of this three years.

Maybe he can turn it around - I certainly hope he does.

But let's not try and sugar coat it.

Thanks.

The rankings are bad for sure, but I think a good amount of the blame can also be attributed to Tannehill.  

13 hours ago, tfine said:

Tannehill has a monster contract. The front office was not going to let Gase find another QB after they just paid him a ton of money. That would look bad


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Yeah the contract really killed any shot at a change, too much invested.