HawkeyeJet Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I personally am shocked yesterday's events haven't improved Jamal's reception around here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Do you guys remember Marcus Williams? He had 6 ints one year did that make him a good player? Don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 He’s a SS not a CB or FS. He has around 250 tackles 2.5 years. What’s the issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhuntr Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, Beerfish said: hall of fame? For gods sakes. This guy has literally just about done nothing on a terrible team. He is all media and little substance. So far he has a better shot at an Ocscar for all his drama. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, section314 said: Sunday was basically a summary of Adam's career. Some really good plays vs the run, and some hard hits. But the plays that change the game. that truly make you a difference maker, he whiffed. Drops another int, and has a clear shot on a sack, and misses that as well. Another top 10 pick that we are getting 3-4th round value out of. Did you forget the back to back personal foul penalties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 look at ints and you'll see many lbs who have more, much less 80% of all safeties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Irktusk1957 said: Yeah, I got ya but I think we’ll put a couple dents in a few team’s fenders before MLK Day. I don't mind playing the role of spoiler if that's what it comes down to. I just want to see this team compete. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Thai Jet said: Indeed. It's meaningless and non productive. JUST LIKE JAMAL ADAMS!!!! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: They would have 3 extra 2nd rounders, PLUS #6 overall. WE don't know exactly how the board would have fallen, but there would have been a ton of players to pick from, plus with all the QBs, the likelihood they could execute a trade down. I guess they could have taken Minkah Fitzpatrick if safety were so ******* important. You're forgetting one thing. Mac would have selected theb2nd round players. Still feel bad about trading up for Darnold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Bugg said: Somehow Coffee Boy always managed to get THE BEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT, who was always a DB or DL guy. I was listening to Benigno and Roberts and was reminded that Maccagnan ALSO gave the Jets Gase, which makes sense because the sack of sh*t made EVERY move to protect his worthless hide. The irony being that the guy Maccagnan recommended to Chris Johnson quickly stabbed him in the back and he lost his job, the very thing Maccagnan worried about if McCarthy got the HC job, since MCCarthy wanted some Roster control, he knew what a disaster the Jets were before asking for the job BECAUSE he wanted to tutor Darnold, and Maccagnan feared that with Roster control McCarthy could easily show what a beyond nightmare job Maccagnan had done. I don't care about people saying "the game passed McCarthy by". The guy went to the playoffs 9 times but most importantly he retooled Aaron Rodgers throwing motion from the ground up, McCarthy actually IS a real "QB Whisperer". I have no delusions thinking McCarthy could win many more games than Gase will, not with the Landfill of a Roster left by Maccagnan, but I know Darnold would have been way better off, and that's what is hands down the most important thing this year. Jets, but most importantly Darnold, would have definitely been better off with McCarthy...but whenever there is a choice to make count on the Jets to pick the WRONG option 100% of the time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetgreen13 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Philc1 said: A full time starting NFL DB after 3 years should have more than 2 picks by accident Jamal Adams is overrated as HELL LOLz his 2nd pick was a completely meaningless pick 6 from brady's backup who immediately got benched as a result.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: You're forgetting one thing. Mac would have selected theb2nd round players. Still feel bad about trading up for Darnold? I don't feel bad about trading up for Darnold. I feel bad about what made us get to that point. Actually, I feel bad about the state of the team in general. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberjet Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Too much dam critiquing on 1 player ( name any) instead of the team , all 22. One player can't do it all, they're losing as a team. They're losing because of poor coaching. The logic of getting rid of players just to justify that something has to be done is baffling. If Woody decided to move the team to another State, heck maybe that would solve a lot of problems - losing the media and the hokey followers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: As i said in another thread, minkha has 5 in half the games and he essentially got a 1st round pick for the phins. Adams is not getting more than a 1st for the jets. If JD turned down a first and a third for this stiff OMFG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, More Cowbell said: So is this the new whine for the people that can't complain about Leo's sack total? Who is Leo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, jetgreen13 said: LOLz his 2nd pick was a completely meaningless pick 6 from brady's backup who immediately got benched as a result.. #ballhawk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: He’s a SS not a CB or FS. He has around 250 tackles 2.5 years. What’s the issue? So he’s a slightly better Landon Collins Yay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, More Cowbell said: So is this the new whine for the people that can't complain about Leo's sack total? Yes. That is how you win in this league. You sack the QB and you generate turnovers. See the pats, and see the pats even when they did not have a #1 defensive they still always generated turnovers. You do not win by stopping the run or by almost getting to the QB or even 'pressuring' the QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Tru had 4 INT's last year in 10 games which was double the amount Gilmore had in 16 games.. Good news guys.. Tru is better than Gilmore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Philc1 said: So he’s a slightly better Landon Collins Yay He’s a good SS. What’s your point other the to bitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Jamal is on my sh*t list this week but I gotta say, most people think the almost sack was a total blown play. I beg to differ. If you look at the video with no bias, he was lucky he even touched him. Its a bang bang play, going full speed against the RB and trying to get around him plus a heck of a step by Minshew. This wasn't a for sure sack that he whiffed on by any means. https://www.jaguars.com/video/can-t-miss-play-minshew-magic-qb-evades-the-rush-for-70-yard-td-strike-to-conley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Who is Leo? A guy that was traded to the Giants who is going to look pretty good because thebGiants can rush the QB already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Yes. That is how you win in this league. You sack the QB and you generate turnovers. See the pats, and see the pats even when they did not have a #1 defensive they still always generated turnovers. You do not win by stopping the run or by almost getting to the QB or even 'pressuring' the QB. Dude, lighten up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said: Do you guys remember Marcus Williams? He had 6 ints one year did that make him a good player? Don't think so. 14 minutes ago, Pac said: Tru had 4 INT's last year in 10 games which was double the amount Gilmore had in 16 games.. Good news guys.. Tru is better than Gilmore! Say what you want about the Jets, but every year we lead the league in guys whose stats don't tell the whole story 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Say what you want about the Jets, but every year we lead the league in guys whose stats don't tell the whole storyWhich means we can all agree coaching and discipline is the problem.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lounap23 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Love Adams. Think he is a great player. BUT teams are not built around a Safety. Not one GM will tell you they are going to build their franchise around a Safety. A LT? YES A Pass Rusher? YES A QB? DUH of course That's it. Now I am not saying trade Adams. I am not saying shop him around. But if a team calls, you listen. I have said other places and I'll say it here. If some team calls and offer something absurd. 2 First round picks, 2 Second Round picks. Who doesn't take that for Adams. Every GM in the NFL would trade Adams. and I 'll be very honest if the Cowboys offered a 1st round pick,CB Byron Jones and their backup Center Joe Looney,and a 5th rounder. Adams would be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdReed22 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Philc1 said: 2 more than anyone sitting on their couch right now. Hes also led us to the playsoffs 0 times and superbowl 0 times. Hes the greatest Eva greatest big mouth eva 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Pac said: Garbage thread His threads typically are, but to his credit he got you to bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 hours ago, JiF said: Did you forget the back to back personal foul penalties? Was just focusing on two situations that would have changed the game, the plays that great players make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 And one of them was laid in his arms after his defense had given up 30 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 19 hours ago, More Cowbell said: You're forgetting one thing. Mac would have selected theb2nd round players. Still feel bad about trading up for Darnold? Oh God what would those bust draft picks have looked like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 a great blitzer, run stopper AND pretty good in coverage. it's more then just interceptions. you know the most interceptions REVIS had in a year? 6. that's not a lot. you know how much tyrann mathieu's salary is? $14 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, heymangold said: a great blitzer, run stopper AND pretty good in coverage. it's more then just interceptions. you know the most interceptions REVIS had in a year? 6. that's not a lot. you know how much tyrann mathieu's salary is? $14 million Opposing QB's avoided Revis at all costs, driving down his INT count. Mathieu is a Safety that plays more like a Corner, hence why his salary is so high. Same as a guy like Keith Byard. They're Safeties who can play like Corners. Opposing QB's aren't scared of throwing at the great Jamal Adams. I've seen him a step slow in coverage countless times, particularly on throws over the middle when he's in a standard Cover 2 formation. There's a reason Adams freelances around the LOS all the time. He's a below average player in coverage. It's nice he gets TFL's and the occasional blitz that gets to the QB. But most of the time that just puts a strain on the rest of the secondary. And it cost us against the Jaguars when he basically allowed 2 TD's on his own. Hence a big reason why we've been a well below average defense before and after Jamal arrived. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 23 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Opposing QB's avoided Revis at all costs, driving down his INT count. Mathieu is a Safety that plays more like a Corner, hence why his salary is so high. Same as a guy like Keith Byard. They're Safeties who can play like Corners. Opposing QB's aren't scared of throwing at the great Jamal Adams. I've seen him a step slow in coverage countless times, particularly on throws over the middle when he's in a standard Cover 2 formation. There's a reason Adams freelances around the LOS all the time. He's a below average player in coverage. It's nice he gets TFL's and the occasional blitz that gets to the QB. But most of the time that just puts a strain on the rest of the secondary. And it cost us against the Jaguars when he basically allowed 2 TD's on his own. Hence a big reason why we've been a well below average defense before and after Jamal arrived. Adams is not great in coverage. He's actually not even good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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