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The Jets are 0 and 6 and unfortunately with this season being over before it started, the talk has moved to next year. Speaking of next year, where will the Jets be drafting? That is the million dollar question. Here is a thread that was in our forums that I felt was worth sharing. It outlines what the Jets schedule looks like and is 0 and 16 actually a possibility.

Here is the original thread in our NY Jets forum and this was written by long time forum poster Spoot-Face.

Only five teams have gone winless in the NFL, with only two of them going 0-16 (the ’08 Lions and ’17 Browns). This thread won’t be about whether you want them to go 0-16 (full disclosure, I do), but rather how likely you think they could go 0-16, by looking ahead at the schedule ahead and trying to pinpoint which games could surprise and end up in the win column.

Week 7 vs Bills

Should be an easy loss for us. The only deciding factor I could see to us competing is how healthy we can get in a week. With a returning Darnold, Becton, and Mims (plus Perriman), our offense could see a bump in production. Say what you will about whether Darnold is better than Flacco, outside of the Colts game, the offense with Darnold + Becton did outperform the offense without them (17, 13, 28 points scored with and 0 and 10 points scored without.) Not to mention that Darnold has a knack for playing better after coming in after injury/benching.

Still, this Bills team is a legit Super Bowl contender, with a strong defense, strong supporting cast on offense, plus this isn’t the Josh Allen of last year. I don’t think they’re sweating this game. Fairly sure we lose.

Week 8 @ Chiefs

Yeah, what do you think? We could hire Sean Payton, trade for Bell back, trade for JuJu Smith-Schuster, get 100% healthy with even Mosley coming back, and we’re still gonna lose this game. Handedly. I’m supremely confident we lose this game.

Week 9 vs Patriots

This game, surprisingly, is the first game where I’m starting to wonder if we could pull out a win, but this is 100% dependent on where the Patriots are at in the standings. You might think I’m crazy, but bear with me here. Now, I know it’s kind of early for this, as a lot could happen with 11 weeks to go, but let’s assume that the Bills win the division. As we’re sitting now, the two wildcard spots would go to Baltimore (5-1) and Indy (4-2). The Patriots are sitting outside that at 2-3. Should they happen to lose their next two games (49ers and Bills), then they’ll be at 2-5 heading into our game with their window for a wildcard spot closing. Keep in mind, they just lost to Denver. Belichick, while a devious, lying, cheating, repugnant, characteristically abrasive, and a probably morally bankrupt, he is also a pretty smart guy. Almost evil genius level. I have no doubt that he sees the big picture, and if he sees the playoff window closing, I wouldn’t put it past him to start thinking about draft order. Theirs and ours. No doubt he’d love to mess with our chances at the #1 pick.

It’s still kind of early to count them out of it, though, and if Bill is still in playoff mode, he absolutely destroys us, no matter who the QB is.

Week 10 (Bye Week)

Now, going 0-9 into the bye week would have me feeling pretty confident we’re going 0-16 and getting the #1 pick, but what happens this week is absolutely crucial. Do the Johnsons finally pull the trigger and fire Adam Gase, thus galvanizing the players and giving them something to play for? This, in my opinion, would be a mistake, especially going into weeks 11 and 12 which are the last two truly winnable games left on our schedule.

Week 11 @ Chargers

Not having watched the Chargers this season, but going off their current 1-4 record, I may be sweating going into this game, especially if Adam Gase has already been fired. If he’s still the head coach, I’d feel more confident about this being a loss. I have heard that their young QB Hebert looks pretty good though, and this Jets team has yet to meet a QB who couldn’t beat them. And we are traveling, so that’s a detriment/bonus. This game will look a lot clearer once we get closer, but I’m putting this one at 60/40 right now, in favor of a loss. Losing this game would, in my opinion, be a strong indicator of how we’ll perform not only in the next game, but for the rest of the season.

Week 12 vs Dolphins

A 0-10 record going into this game should all but portend another loss, but it’s still the last remaining possibly winning game left. Much like the week 9 game against the Patriots, a strong factor in this game would be where the Dolphins are at. If fighting for a playoff spot, I could easily see Fitz dominating us on the way to what I believe would be his first ever playoff game (still? lol) On the flip side, say they are out of it, or bad Fitz has finally reared his ugly beard, and they send Tua out there to play the rest of the season to build some confidence. This Jets team would probably be the perfect opponent for him to do so. And, doing so, in their case were they just drafted who they think is their guy, may be more beneficial than just losing out. Besides, they have Houston’s first rounder, too. Again, about a 60/40 split in favor of us loosing.

Week 13, 14, 15, 16

At this point, an 0-11 record would all but guarantee a sweep in the next 4 games (vs Raiders, @ Seahawks, @ Rams, vs Browns). Our team is completely demoralized, and has nothing to play for. If we couldn’t win Weeks 11 and 12, with or without Gase, I don’t see these 4 games as possibly winnable.

Week 17 @ Patriots

Week 17; the final game against the Patriots. This is a wildcard game, much like the first against them, but by this point we will know if Bill Belichick has anything to play for, whether that be getting into the playoffs, or a higher, more favorable seed. If neither of those outcomes are in play, than I absolutely see Belichick pulling his starters and having his team come out flat against us to **** us out of Trevor Lawrence and the #1 pick. For this reason, I am — and I never thought I’d say this — rooting for the Patriots to be in playoff contention. I want Bill to want to win — nay, I want him to need to win this game, because if he does, then this Jets team can’t stop him, and a 0-16 record is in our hands. Rejoice, or vomit, the choice is yours!

tl;dr

Possibly winnable games: Wk11 @ Chargers, Wk12 v Dolphins

Wildcard games: Both Wk9 & Wk17 against Patriots, contingent on Belichick’s motives

For those who want to tank: rooting for Patriots and Dolphins to push for playoffs to give them a reason for beating us late in the season.

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The 3 games that have me worried:

Chargers / Dolphins / Browns.

Hopefully all of the 1-5 teams have won a couple of games by then and 1 fluke win by us will put us in the drivers...errr....losers seat and #1 pick.

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Just now, Adoni Beast said:

The 3 games that have me worried:

Chargers / Dolphins / Browns.

Hopefully all of the 1-5 teams have won a couple of games by then and 1 fluke win by us will put us in the drivers...errr....losers seat and #1 pick.

I can’t wait to get the #1 seed and home draft advantage. 

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1 minute ago, Creepy Lurker said:

I can’t wait to get the #1 seed and home draft advantage. 

I hope MetLife has that draft party again it will be the place to be when they draft Trevor Lawrence. 

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15 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

I hope MetLife has that draft party again it will be the place to be when they draft Trevor Lawrence. 

I’d love to go but I’m not sure I would be able to not throw Chris Johnson into the abyss. 

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They won’t. Darnold will be back and they will **** this up and win 3 or 4 games. Top 5 again but no number 1. Book it.

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"long time forum poster"

I can appreciate that five years with me feels like such a long time, lol.

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1 hour ago, Creepy Lurker said:

I can’t wait to get the #1 seed and home draft advantage. 

I'm really excited for the post-draft parade when the teammates hold Trevor Lawrence up above each of their heads, and passes him around to kiss him.

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1 hour ago, Adoni Beast said:

The 3 games that have me worried:

Chargers / Dolphins / Browns.

Hopefully all of the 1-5 teams have won a couple of games by then and 1 fluke win by us will put us in the drivers...errr....losers seat and #1 pick.

Looking through the Browns record, I was surprised to see they beat Indy 32-23. You know, the team that destroyed us 36-7.

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59 minutes ago, CotcheryifyouCan said:

knowing us we will win 1 or 2 pick 2nd or 3rd. take best defensive player available. wash rinse repeat 

I may just go full-time troll like @SAR I or @HessStation if that happens.

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49 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said:

I’d love to go but I’m not sure I would be able to not throw Chris Johnson into the abyss. 

Would it look something like this?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-76f07445376ba8741893b9ac3b720dcc

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11 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

I may just go full-time troll like @SAR I or @HessStation if that happens.

How dare you. We’ll consider this your first warning bc I’m in a good mood with the season thus far. 

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1 minute ago, HessStation said:

How dare you. We’ll consider this your first warning bc I’m in a good mood with the season thus far. 

I only meant that I might start rooting for the Browns (or Titans or both!) and spend all my time making fun of the Jets.

But I apologize for naming you so callously alongside SAR.

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19 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

I only meant that I might start rooting for the Browns (or Titans or both!) and spend all my time making fun of the Jets.

But I apologize for naming you so callously alongside SAR.

Forgiven only bc that’s what Jesus would do.

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2 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Forgiven only bc that’s what Jesus would do.

And you wouldn't want to disappoint him would you?

Excited Trevor Lawrence GIF by ESPN

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If Sam come back the Jets will win 3 games

Will that be too many for #1?

I certainly hope so.

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To be honest thinking 0-16 hurts.  It’s definitely possible and odds are it’s going to happen.  Throw out records - talent level of the teams remaining on this scheduled is SO much higher than what’s on the Jets.  Coaching is a huge factor too - we don’t need to go any further with that!

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There is not a doubt in my mind that the Jets will beat the Patriots in Week 17. I'm dead serious.

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4 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

I hope MetLife has that draft party again it will be the place to be when they draft Trevor Lawrence. 

I was thinking that. Wondering the same thing...

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3 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

If Sam come back the Jets will win 3 games

Will that be too many for #1?

I certainly hope so.

So, you want us to have less options in the draft?

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Don't forget the Jets blew out the Raiders last year. Chargers, Miami, Raiders, and Browns are all winnable games after the bye week. Jets probably win 2-3 games and pick behind Washington and the Jaguars because of tiebreakers

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5 hours ago, JetNation said:

Joe Douglas

The Jets are 0 and 6 and unfortunately with this season being over before it started, the talk has moved to next year. Speaking of next year, where will the Jets be drafting? That is the million dollar question. Here is a thread that was in our forums that I felt was worth sharing. It outlines what the Jets schedule looks like and is 0 and 16 actually a possibility.

Here is the original thread in our NY Jets forum and this was written by long time forum poster Spoot-Face.

Only five teams have gone winless in the NFL, with only two of them going 0-16 (the ’08 Lions and ’17 Browns). This thread won’t be about whether you want them to go 0-16 (full disclosure, I do), but rather how likely you think they could go 0-16, by looking ahead at the schedule ahead and trying to pinpoint which games could surprise and end up in the win column.

Week 7 vs Bills

Should be an easy loss for us. The only deciding factor I could see to us competing is how healthy we can get in a week. With a returning Darnold, Becton, and Mims (plus Perriman), our offense could see a bump in production. Say what you will about whether Darnold is better than Flacco, outside of the Colts game, the offense with Darnold + Becton did outperform the offense without them (17, 13, 28 points scored with and 0 and 10 points scored without.) Not to mention that Darnold has a knack for playing better after coming in after injury/benching.

Still, this Bills team is a legit Super Bowl contender, with a strong defense, strong supporting cast on offense, plus this isn’t the Josh Allen of last year. I don’t think they’re sweating this game. Fairly sure we lose.

Week 8 @ Chiefs

Yeah, what do you think? We could hire Sean Payton, trade for Bell back, trade for JuJu Smith-Schuster, get 100% healthy with even Mosley coming back, and we’re still gonna lose this game. Handedly. I’m supremely confident we lose this game.

Week 9 vs Patriots

This game, surprisingly, is the first game where I’m starting to wonder if we could pull out a win, but this is 100% dependent on where the Patriots are at in the standings. You might think I’m crazy, but bear with me here. Now, I know it’s kind of early for this, as a lot could happen with 11 weeks to go, but let’s assume that the Bills win the division. As we’re sitting now, the two wildcard spots would go to Baltimore (5-1) and Indy (4-2). The Patriots are sitting outside that at 2-3. Should they happen to lose their next two games (49ers and Bills), then they’ll be at 2-5 heading into our game with their window for a wildcard spot closing. Keep in mind, they just lost to Denver. Belichick, while a devious, lying, cheating, repugnant, characteristically abrasive, and a probably morally bankrupt, he is also a pretty smart guy. Almost evil genius level. I have no doubt that he sees the big picture, and if he sees the playoff window closing, I wouldn’t put it past him to start thinking about draft order. Theirs and ours. No doubt he’d love to mess with our chances at the #1 pick.

It’s still kind of early to count them out of it, though, and if Bill is still in playoff mode, he absolutely destroys us, no matter who the QB is.

Week 10 (Bye Week)

Now, going 0-9 into the bye week would have me feeling pretty confident we’re going 0-16 and getting the #1 pick, but what happens this week is absolutely crucial. Do the Johnsons finally pull the trigger and fire Adam Gase, thus galvanizing the players and giving them something to play for? This, in my opinion, would be a mistake, especially going into weeks 11 and 12 which are the last two truly winnable games left on our schedule.

Week 11 @ Chargers

Not having watched the Chargers this season, but going off their current 1-4 record, I may be sweating going into this game, especially if Adam Gase has already been fired. If he’s still the head coach, I’d feel more confident about this being a loss. I have heard that their young QB Hebert looks pretty good though, and this Jets team has yet to meet a QB who couldn’t beat them. And we are traveling, so that’s a detriment/bonus. This game will look a lot clearer once we get closer, but I’m putting this one at 60/40 right now, in favor of a loss. Losing this game would, in my opinion, be a strong indicator of how we’ll perform not only in the next game, but for the rest of the season.

Week 12 vs Dolphins

A 0-10 record going into this game should all but portend another loss, but it’s still the last remaining possibly winning game left. Much like the week 9 game against the Patriots, a strong factor in this game would be where the Dolphins are at. If fighting for a playoff spot, I could easily see Fitz dominating us on the way to what I believe would be his first ever playoff game (still? lol) On the flip side, say they are out of it, or bad Fitz has finally reared his ugly beard, and they send Tua out there to play the rest of the season to build some confidence. This Jets team would probably be the perfect opponent for him to do so. And, doing so, in their case were they just drafted who they think is their guy, may be more beneficial than just losing out. Besides, they have Houston’s first rounder, too. Again, about a 60/40 split in favor of us loosing.

Week 13, 14, 15, 16

At this point, an 0-11 record would all but guarantee a sweep in the next 4 games (vs Raiders, @ Seahawks, @ Rams, vs Browns). Our team is completely demoralized, and has nothing to play for. If we couldn’t win Weeks 11 and 12, with or without Gase, I don’t see these 4 games as possibly winnable.

Week 17 @ Patriots

Week 17; the final game against the Patriots. This is a wildcard game, much like the first against them, but by this point we will know if Bill Belichick has anything to play for, whether that be getting into the playoffs, or a higher, more favorable seed. If neither of those outcomes are in play, than I absolutely see Belichick pulling his starters and having his team come out flat against us to **** us out of Trevor Lawrence and the #1 pick. For this reason, I am — and I never thought I’d say this — rooting for the Patriots to be in playoff contention. I want Bill to want to win — nay, I want him to need to win this game, because if he does, then this Jets team can’t stop him, and a 0-16 record is in our hands. Rejoice, or vomit, the choice is yours!

tl;dr

Possibly winnable games: Wk11 @ Chargers, Wk12 v Dolphins

Wildcard games: Both Wk9 & Wk17 against Patriots, contingent on Belichick’s motives

For those who want to tank: rooting for Patriots and Dolphins to push for playoffs to give them a reason for beating us late in the season.

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I will bet anyone in this forum that gase turns it around and wins at least 4... if not more (btw predicting upset against gumby and the bills)

Were lucky to have him and were gonna watch another spurt of potential like the end of last season

#GetGased #JetUp #GasedGod

 

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There are so many one win reams that it’s almost a certainty there will still be a couple at season’s end. The jets will have to lose out to get the first pick with certainty. Wing one game puts them behind the jags and winning two will probably have them around the 4th or 5th pick.  It’s a bad situation because there are some players and coaches who just don’t want to lose.

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10 hours ago, Spoot-Face said:

So, you want us to have less options in the draft?

Willing to hurt the team for one more shot at being proven right about Sam on a messageboard 

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" Are the Jets Headed to 0 and 16? "..

 

i hope so   8::

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I don't see a win on the schedule. No joke, it almost seems more likely that they go winless than they win a game. Have we finally hit rock bottom? 

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