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Five high profile players who have become liabilities. Sam is not on the list

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11 minutes ago, CTM said:

Sam's not high profile 

He’s not playing.

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13 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Sam Darnold 32 career ints

Faker Bayfield 41 ints

On a team with 100 times the talent.

Interesting that 3 qbs who either could have been jets or were jets are listed. In cousins case, it seems like he’s missing diggs.  MYfield? He’s just a dog and fitzy will always be just fitzy.

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The article is actually about players who are becoming liabilities ... so maybe they already considered Sam as one?

Personally I don't believe so. Jets are worse without him, whoever the backup is. And "being worse" is no mean feat given how bad we are to start with.

Also, take a look at the NFL.com draft order & team needs. QB is not considered a need for us. OL, WR, Edge. Same story from the past 10+ years.

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16 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Sam Darnold 32 career ints

Faker Bayfield 41 ints

On a team with 100 times the talent.

He's also played in every game since that Thursday night game against us, so he's had more chances to throw INTs🤣

And 20 more TD's but whose counting

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2 hours ago, Dunnie said:

The real question is . Why is Sam not on the list ????

 

Because Sam plays on a completely sh*tty team yet continues to show great potential

 

 

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The offense looks marginally better when Sam is in there. On this team, that's a frickin miracle. 

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6 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Because Sam plays on a completely sh*tty team yet continues to show great potential

 

 

niceee, two jaw dropping plays out of a dozen back foot throws, bone headed decisions & interceptions. 
 

Look, I think Sam has flashed and his arm talent is undeniable but there’s simply too much grey area in between these 45 second highlights to succeed in the NFL. I’m not saying his situation doesn’t impact his production because you’d be foolish not to see how evident that is but when you keep repeating the same mistakes, you make it easy for defenses to pin their ears back on you and make you paranoid & trigger happy...it shows up on film.

He needs a fresh start and so do we.

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23 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said:

To become a liability you have to have been an asset at some point.

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For Darnold, the liability appears to be the number of games missed, eight over three years.  Let's hope he can stay on the field the rest of this season.  

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17 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

niceee, two jaw dropping plays out of a dozen back foot throws, bone headed decisions & interceptions. 
 

Look, I think Sam has flashed and his arm talent is undeniable but there’s simply too much grey area in between these 45 second highlights to succeed in the NFL. I’m not saying his situation doesn’t impact his production because you’d be foolish not to see how evident that is but when you keep repeating the same mistakes, you make it easy for defenses to pin their ears back on you and make you paranoid & trigger happy...it shows up on film.

He needs a fresh start and so do we.

Eli Manning didn't start to really figure things out until his 4th season.  And that was under a HOF HC with some very talented weapons (e.g. Amani Toomer, Plaxico Burress, Jeremy Shockey, Tiki Barber).  

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1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Eli Manning didn't start to really figure things out until his 4th season.  And that was under a HOF HC with some very talented weapons (e.g. Amani Toomer, Plaxico Burress, Jeremy Shockey, Tiki Barber).  

This roster isn’t turning into the 07’ Giants by Sam’s 4th year..which is next year.

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18 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Eli Manning didn't start to really figure things out until his 4th season.  And that was under a HOF HC with some very talented weapons (e.g. Amani Toomer, Plaxico Burress, Jeremy Shockey, Tiki Barber).  

Eli Manning also didn't miss a single NFL game due to injury/ailment his entire career.  16 straight years without a missed start.  

Darnold has already missed 8 games in 3 seasons.

And for every Eli Manning who sucked early and went on to success, there are dozens of QB's who sucked early on and continued to suck.  We've had several of those types of QB's just in the last decade.

Time to move on.  

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22 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Eli Manning also didn't miss a single NFL game due to injury/ailment his entire career.  16 straight years without a missed start.  

Darnold has already missed 8 games in 3 seasons.

And for every Eli Manning who sucked early and went on to success, there are dozens of QB's who sucked early on and continued to suck.  We've had several of those types of QB's just in the last decade.

Time to move on.  

Phil Simms couldn't stay healthy for a few seasons at the start of his career and then was very healthy for years (basically until 1990).  Should the Giants have dumped him?

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5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Phil Simms couldn't stay healthy for a few seasons at the start of his career and then was very healthy for years (basically until 1990).  Should the Giants have dumped him?

If you have to go all the way back to the late 70s/early 80s to find an example like this, you've lost the war.

QB's have never been more protected than they are now, and the medical technology/sports medicine/training available to athletes is like a different world than the late 70s/early 80s.  

Darnold can't stay healthy because he's soft.  Period.  Even softer than Pennington was.  His first injury was a very minor one and he missed 3 games.  And the last injury he suffered was 100 % his fault.  Maybe stop holding onto the ball forever and he won't be put in those vulnerable positions.  

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2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Maybe stop holding onto the ball forever and he won't be put in those vulnerable positions. 

He hurt his own shoulder. The ball should of been out by the time he was slung to the turf.

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On Lattimore...is there such thing as “good corners” anymore? I mean I don’t see how it’s really possible or to distinguish between haves and have nots anymore with all the pro offensive rule changes. Is there a point to do anything significant bedsides having a pass rush on Defense ?

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On 10/22/2020 at 4:07 PM, Icer said:

He's also played in every game since that Thursday night game against us, so he's had more chances to throw INTs🤣

And 20 more TD's but whose counting

The TDs are outliers. The INTs are who he is. Don’t you know anything about evaluating QBs on other teams?

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5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

If you have to go all the way back to the late 70s/early 80s to find an example like this, you've lost the war.

QB's have never been more protected than they are now, and the medical technology/sports medicine/training available to athletes is like a different world than the late 70s/early 80s.  

Darnold can't stay healthy because he's soft.  Period.  Even softer than Pennington was.  His first injury was a very minor one and he missed 3 games.  And the last injury he suffered was 100 % his fault.  Maybe stop holding onto the ball forever and he won't be put in those vulnerable positions.  

How about Drew Brees?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Brees

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On 10/21/2020 at 5:38 PM, JTJet said:

More importantly... Cynthia Frelund 🤤

 

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My girl! Love her! Not in Creepy, stalkery way or anything.  I mean  It's not like I know where she lives and stuff. Just, like, normal, you know....right?

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5 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Phil Simms couldn't stay healthy for a few seasons at the start of his career and then was very healthy for years (basically until 1990).  Should the Giants have dumped him?

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8 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

My girl! Love her! Not in Creepy, stalkery way or anything.  I mean  It's not like I know where she lives and stuff. Just, like, normal, you know....right?

Shes MINE! Back off! Lol

I would love to have just one night with her, a whip, two Sham-Wows, and a stick of butter. 

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On 10/21/2020 at 5:38 PM, JTJet said:

More importantly... Cynthia Frelund 🤤

 

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29 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

My girl! Love her! Not in Creepy, stalkery way or anything.  I mean  It's not like I know where she lives and stuff. Just, like, normal, you know....right?

manhunter3-1.jpg.6c93c97da37c941a4bfa9229550e5038.jpg

 

17 minutes ago, JTJet said:

Shes MINE! Back off! Lol

I would love to have just one night with her, a whip, two Sham-Wows, and a stick of butter. 

 

@Jet_Engine1 She might've gone for you if you could still casually drop a line like "I'm the captain of JetNation".

 

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4 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

 

@Jet_Engine1 She might've gone for you if you could still casually drop a line like "I'm the captain of JetNation".

 

I am many things, but a Valor thief is not one of those things. 

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On 10/22/2020 at 7:17 AM, jamesr said:

The article is actually about players who are becoming liabilities ... so maybe they already considered Sam as one?

Personally I don't believe so. Jets are worse without him, whoever the backup is. And "being worse" is no mean feat given how bad we are to start with.

Also, take a look at the NFL.com draft order & team needs. QB is not considered a need for us. OL, WR, Edge. Same story from the past 10+ years.

I think we all know if you swapped out Sam to Cleveland & Baker to New York, Sam might look a lot better & Baker look even worse!

Sam was throwing to Smith, Berrios, Herndon, Crowder. Crowder has been over 100 yards 3 times. 

Give Sam OBJ & Landry with Hunt in the backfield? 

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