ncjetman Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I admittedly don’t watch much college football so my exposure to and opinions of college players is limited - I did however see Ohio State v Clemson and Fields looked awesome - in the Championship game he looked mediocre at best - can the naysayers help me understand why he’s a bad choice at 2 if we keep the pick and jettison Darnold? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SayNoToDMC Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 Cause he blows. Feel free to save this and shove it in my face in 2 years if I'm wrong 5 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Not sure. People are down on him but jerking off mighty mouse 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Because he went to OSU. That's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said: Cause he blows. Feel free to save this and shove it in my face in 2 years if I'm wrong 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I don't think there is much hate at all. He has fallen behind Wilson in many peoples minds but a lot of people are not sure who is the better player they both have really good attributes and some questions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Not sure. People are down on him but jerking off mighty mouse I'm not as thrilled as most on him either. Big ******* gamble betting on one year of high quality production. I don't see anything I like with Fields and I'm an idiot but when I see something on tape I hate I'm usually right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post prime21 Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 Because he couldn’t beat the the Patriots of NCAA football while injured. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 To answer the OP's question -- I don't think anyone "hates" him, but i also don't think anyone consciously knows why its become popular to be disenfranchised with Fields. Have you ever read Gladwell's tipping point? It explores how social phenomenon's happen - how things essentially go viral in life. Anyway, happens all the time in the draft. It's like the opposite of FOMO in the investment world. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joewilly12 Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 Once the NY Jets lost out on TL everyone hated every other QB that was available in the draft. The keep Sam Darnold lovefest started. We are a QB needy fanbase afraid to commit to another failure. 4 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I think I can explain it a little. Greg Cossell made a point that talent evaluators at the QB position look for 2 things: Skills and traits. Skills are things like accuracy, placement, release, timing football knowledge. etc. Traits are things like height/weight, speed, arm strength, quickness, etc Some evaluators prefer QBs with better traits because they tend to have a higher ceiling Some evaluators prefer QBs with better skills that can translate to the NFL level Obviously every QB is a combination of these two things. I think what has happened is that if you are comparing Wilson and Fields, Wilson is farther ahead in skills, than Fields is ahead of Wilson in traits. Does not mean people are hating Fields. FWIW I think that JD is more of a traits guy and might prefer Fields, but Saleh and LaFleur are tied to a specific offensive system which Wilson is better suited for so they will likely be really pro Wilson. I guess I am in the skills camp. I am not a big traits guy. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I feel Chris Sims criticisms of Fields was fair but I don’t agree with him ranking Fields so low on his Top QBs list. That being said a lot of it is school bias. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, oatmeal said: I feel Chris Sims criticisms of Fields was fair but I don’t agree with him ranking Fields so low on his Top QBs list. That being said a lot of it is school bias. Chris Simms has no right to criticize any QB he was a bum. 1 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, ncjetman said: I admittedly don’t watch much college football so my exposure to and opinions of college players is limited - I did however see Ohio State v Clemson and Fields looked awesome - in the Championship game he looked mediocre at best - can the naysayers help me understand why he’s a bad choice at 2 if we keep the pick and jettison Darnold? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app You must have somehow missed the Alabama game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Paradis Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, SayNoToDMC said: Cause he blows. Feel free to save this and shove it in my face in 2 years if I'm wrong honestly, the board needs more ppl like you... we take this/ourselves seriously wayyyy to often. Myself included. It's a fcking forum, chill bill. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greenbloodblitz Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 Go watch all the highlights on YouTube from each individual player being the top five or six rated quarterbacks in the 2021 draft and picture them in a Jets uniform. Then I suggest watching interviews with each individual player. This is really important. If drafted this is the person you will be rooting for, and live and die with as our team leader after every game each week at the podium. Feel free to compare them to Sam Darnold. The year we drafted Sam I wanted Mayfield. Last year I wanted Herbert. I don't follow college football much either, but this is how I assess players. I picture them in our Jersey and how they will play in the NFL. Not what they did in college or who they played against in college. I want to know what the individual is made of and how adaptable they are to the new situation they will be in. Justin Fields is the guy who stood out to me this year upon my first assessment. He was Stronger, tougher, he seems to have an attitude or chip on his shoulder that I think we need leading the New York Jets. They say you don't know the character of a man until you see how he reacts when he is in crisis. Go see for yourself. 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I still like him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 because the analysts don't have anything on the line if they all agree and get it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, Paradis said: honestly, the board needs more ppl like you... we take this/ourselves seriously wayyyy to often. Myself included. It's a fcking forum, chill bill. Glad you appreciate it I let whatever is on my mind flow. I'm an open book and Max has been nice enough to not to ban me(one hiccup this last week that was my fault). I learned not to take myself seriously years ago I never intentionally say anything to upset anyone, I got no hate for anybody. I'd rather laugh at myself than attack any individual for real here. It's tough though given my nature these days and people being all sensitive about everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 hours ago, ncjetman said: I admittedly don’t watch much college football so my exposure to and opinions of college players is limited - I did however see Ohio State v Clemson and Fields looked awesome - in the Championship game he looked mediocre at best - can the naysayers help me understand why he’s a bad choice at 2 if we keep the pick and jettison Darnold? My take is that Fields had ALL DAY to throw at Ohio State. He'll have half the amount of time with the Jets. People are skeptical he'll be able to make those throws with so little time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAJet815 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I don’t hate Fields at all. I just see him as QB3 and we have the 2nd pick in the draft. Would I be actively mad if he’s a jet? No. But Would I be happy? Well, no. No, not really . That doesn’t mean I hate the guy. I just like a couple of other QB more 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Because he sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Dwayne Haskins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Because he's trash. A train wreck waiting to happen with horrific pocket awareness and terrible mechanics. Out of the league in 6 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 The simple answer is people are stupid, see above posts for examples. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec143dmf Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Because he is a one read QB and never really went through progressions. He will be a complete bust. Just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 What hate? I see people questioning his ability to process the field. That seems like a concern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 9 hours ago, ncjetman said: I admittedly don’t watch much college football so my exposure to and opinions of college players is limited - I did however see Ohio State v Clemson and Fields looked awesome - in the Championship game he looked mediocre at best - can the naysayers help me understand why he’s a bad choice at 2 if we keep the pick and jettison Darnold? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Because beating Troy and Louisiana Tech is now all the rage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Fields is really smart. Nobody who's an analyst of pro-sports likes someone who's smarter than they are. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 9 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Chris Simms has no right to criticize any QB he was a bum. this is a stupid sentiemnt. so because he didn't have the physical ability to play trhe position at a really high level that means he can't evaluate players at the position? his evaluations have mostly been uncannily accurate. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Gibby said: Dwayne Haskins. Elaborate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 watch his highlights.....almost every throw is with him having tons of time and throwing to a ridiculously open receiver. the concern is that you don't that type of time and those types of open receivers in the nfl too often 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: Elaborate what's not to understand? both had gaudy numbers at ohio state. haskins already has proven to be a bust.....the comparison is saying fields will likely do the same since it's the system and surrounding talent that has these guys putting up these numbers and not the dominance of the player themselves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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