football guy Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: If Sexton had his way, what would be the move here? I’d guess it’d be getting Darnold paid, then traded? I think @football guy posited this at one point—the Jets give Darnold three years at $18 mil per, removing the urgency of the fifth year option at lesser cost, and then giving him the chance to either recover here, or go somewhere else where the new team doesn’t have to pay him right away. A lot of it would be “phony money”—Unguaranteed after a year, but pays him the option money and spreads it out over final 2-years if he were to get cut. If he were succeed, then whatever team he plays for has a decent contract for 2 years 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Enjoy Sam Bradford Jr I mean, Sam Bradford is so much better than any QB we've drafted in my lifetime.... so.................. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 hour ago, mfmartin said: Geno Smiths top receiver was Jeremy Kerley for a whooping 523 yards. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app He also played with Holmes and Decker. Like I said, it's his fault he sucked with that talent at WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: Some of you guys are just delusional about Sam. I'm sorry. Fitz was 8000 times better than Sam last year. Any team bringing in Sam is bringing him in with the hope of developing his raw talent to help him reach his potential. He's damaged goods right now. The best he can hope for is a QB competition. Nobody is watching Sam's 2020 tape and thinking "Yep, that's our starter next year." The best he can hope for is that they see the physical talent and want a shot at developing it. That is what I am saying. Whoever ot was I was discussing this with was saying Sam will be brought in as a backup. IOWs the same capacity Flacco was brought in last year. They will bring him in as a starter. Nobody is saying he is going to start regardless of how he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 48 minutes ago, TeddEY said: I mean, Sam Bradford is so much better than any QB we've drafted in my lifetime.... so.................. Plus, I always wonder what a guy like Bradford thinks about the pot shots fans take at him for not playing up to his status as a #1 overall pick. The guy retired at the age of 30 after a 9 year NFL career and over $130 million in career earnings. And many fans consider his career a punch line. Weird. It is hard to imagine he has any regrets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Just now, More Cowbell said: That is what I am saying. Whoever ot was I was discussing this with was saying Sam will be brought in as a backup. IOWs the same capacity Flacco was brought in last year. They will bring him in as a starter. Nobody is saying he is going to start regardless of how he plays. Right. I know. We still disagree. I think the team that brings Sam in brings him in as a cheap developmental prospect (i.e. backup) or an alternative to a current starter if things go south (i.e. backup). I think the best he can hope for is a chance to compete for a starting job, and more than likely, he won't be a starting QB next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, More Cowbell said: He also played with Holmes and Decker. Like I said, it's his fault he sucked with that talent at WR. So let’s draft the next Geno Justin Fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 He also played with Holmes and Decker. Like I said, it's his fault he sucked with that talent at WR. Holmes was washed that year with Geno. He had Decker for one year. Pretty much on par with Sam having Robby and Crowder. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 So let’s draft the next Geno Justin FieldsJust because they both have the same skin color doesn’t mean they are similar prospects. Be better. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I think it's honestly preposterous that Douglas would make any decision based on the best interest of Jimmy Sexton's clients rather than building his team the best way he can -- let alone the single most important decision he'll likely ever make in his chosen field. Like, I think people who think Coaches or GMs operate this way are very far removed from how these sorts of personalities operate. They aren't in it to grab some guaranteed money, take kickbacks, suck and middle for the rest of their careers. They're in an executive role in one of the most competitive industries in the world. They're in it to win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: I think it's honestly preposterous that Douglas would make any decision based on the best interest of Jimmy Sexton's clients rather than building his team the best way he can -- let alone the single most important decision he'll likely ever make in his chosen field. Like, I think people who think Coaches or GMs operate this way are very far removed from how these sorts of personalities operate. They aren't in it to grab some guaranteed money, take kickbacks, suck and middle for the rest of their careers. They're in an executive role in one of the most competitive industries in the world. They're in it to win. Do you think Woody and Chris go to bed at night worried about the Jets sucking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I heard Jimmy Sexton and JD are having a secret meeting right now to discuss who we should draft. Stay woke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 13 hours ago, Adoni Beast said: If anything it will be beneficial to Sam and Sexton to get Sam out of here. Keeping him here, the first 3 & out the whole fan base and media will be out to destroy Sam. You think Sanchez had a rough ending here? You ain’t seen nothing yet. Let him move on and regroup and build his career. then give him three high percentage passes to start. That'll show us! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 5 hours ago, mfmartin said: Holmes was washed that year with Geno. He had Decker for one year. Pretty much on par with Sam having Robby and Crowder. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Holmes wasn't washed up, he quit on the team because Geno was horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Warfish said: I think that just like Sanchez, and Geno, Darnold will not be an NFL starting QB when he first leaves the Jets. He will have to go in somewhere else as a backup to start with. No, no. Teams will be much more confident in putting the full weight of their franchises in Darnold than in Trubisky, Mariota, Tannehill, and any number of other former high-pick letdowns who actually had some decent seasons. Remember when teams were falling all over Joey Harrington because he didn’t get a fair shake in Detroit? Of course you do, of course you do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: Do you think Woody and Chris go to bed at night worried about the Jets sucking? This is legitimately one of the most thought-provoking questions ever posted here. Everyone here should read that question to themselves slowly 3 times in a row and think about it. I hate the answer I'd give. It makes me wonder why I seem to care more than the guys who own the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Jet Life said: I heard Jimmy Sexton and JD are having a secret meeting right now to discuss who we should draft. Stay woke. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Holmes wasn't washed up, he quit on the team because Geno was horrible. He played one more season in Chicago and was out of the league. He was washed up.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Revis Burger to go.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 We're back to this, believing that just to do his agent a favor Douglas risks his teams future and his future by signing a player he thinks is inferior. A player who will cost JDs teams wins, etc. Because thats how people like Douglas operate, how they get to their positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I think you are on to something. Jimmy Sexton represents Nick Saban who is the head coach of Alabama. Mac Jones happened to be the QB of Alabama last year. Coincidence? I think not. With the 2nd pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the New York Jets select Mac Jones, QB Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: We're back to this, believing that just to do his agent a favor Douglas risks his teams future and his future by signing a player he thinks is inferior. A player who will cost JDs teams wins, etc. Because thats how people like Douglas operate. He's got plausible deniability baked in as many here will defend bringing back Darnold anyways. Like yourself for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: He's got plausible deniability baked in as many here will defend bringing back Darnold anyways. Like yourself for example. The conspiracy theory doesnt make sense. JDs not risking his career to do his agent a favor. I havent defended bringing back Darnold, Ive said all along Wilson or Fields and move on. Stop trying to defend this ridiculous theory by trying to bring what you think I'd defend or have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 18 hours ago, Matt39 said: Do you think Woody and Chris go to bed at night worried about the Jets sucking? Does it keep them up at night? Probably not. But I think they want to win and recognize sucking consistently is hurting their bottom line. That's the whole reason they hired Douglas and gave him his huge six year deal -- they want to get it right and fix the team. My comment is about the coaches and personnel men who do this though -- I think you'd be laughed out of any war room in the NFL suggesting a GM would make a decision on their QB of the future based on their agent. It's just a preposterous theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, dbatesman said: It’s been a rough offseason for conspiracy theories 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Have we determined who Matt Rhule’s agent is yet? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam_S Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Sexton is an agent. He had 0% influence on Jets decision making at any point in time. To believe otherwise is foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam_S Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, slats said: Have we determined who Matt Rhule’s agent is yet? Rhule is represented by Athletes 1st. Sexton works for CAA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 that darn jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 8:19 AM, Matt39 said: Insightful. Thanks. You’re welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, dbatesman said: Good news! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Sexton got JD to trade Sam to an organization with some good offensive coaching. Agent of the year!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Good news! I was never with you on this, but I also never understood people who dismissed it out of hand. The Jets have done far dumber stuff for far dumber reasons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: I was never with you on this, but I also never understood people who dismissed it out of hand. The Jets have done far dumber stuff for far dumber reasons I was never in on it, I just felt it was worth noting. Why some get bent out of shape over sportsball chatter I’ll never get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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