Dunnie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 https://www.nj.com/jets/2021/04/nfl-draft-2021-byus-zach-wilson-faces-dim-heritage-as-jets-qb-nbc-sports-peter-king-says.htmlAlso ... NJ.com ... is that even a real source ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 He's a Patriots fan. Not sure what you expect. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post More Cowbell Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dunnie said: https://www.nj.com/jets/2021/04/nfl-draft-2021-byus-zach-wilson-faces-dim-heritage-as-jets-qb-nbc-sports-peter-king-says.html Also ... NJ.com ... is that even a real source ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app I don't get it. What do you expect? We have been horrible at the QB positions for a lot more years than we were good. Now that we just jettisoned the latest one, what do you expect these guys to write about. And as the Mark Schreleth <sp> said, anyone who expects the guy we take with the second pick to fix this mess really is fooling themselves. You don't nearly go winless just because your QB sucks. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, Dunnie said: https://www.nj.com/jets/2021/04/nfl-draft-2021-byus-zach-wilson-faces-dim-heritage-as-jets-qb-nbc-sports-peter-king-says.html Also ... NJ.com ... is that even a real source ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Patriots fluffer and Jets hater is now confused as to how to keep himself busy now that the Pats are out of the picture. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 He's right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Until the Jets actually get a real QB, he ain’t wrong. Truth hurts sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 Yeah but Pete!!!! This time, it's different!!! 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: He's right. How is it right that what Wilson eventually becomes has anything to do with Sanchez, Darnold etc did before him? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Not sure about their sources but NJ.com usually has good content. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: How is it right that what Wilson eventually becomes has anything to do with Sanchez, Darnold etc did before him? We do have the same general manager that surrounded Sam Darnold with other team's backups on the OL, let our only talented WR walk away for nothing and fielded the worst group of offensive players I've, honestly, ever seen. You can make all the excuses you want for JD but as of right now he's added a #2 WR to the worst offense in the NFL - and hasn't upgraded the worst OL I've ever seen. A lot can change between now and then but as of right now Peter King has every right to question what the Jets will do to support Zach Wilson. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: https://www.nj.com/jets/2021/04/nfl-draft-2021-byus-zach-wilson-faces-dim-heritage-as-jets-qb-nbc-sports-peter-king-says.html Also ... NJ.com ... is that even a real source ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Post his crap for everyone else to read, thata show him, 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I'd be worried about the Jets last 25 years if we had the same GM ad during that timeframe. With a GM of 2 years and a HC that hasn't even started yet, I'm less concerned. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, JiF said: Yeah but Pete!!!! This time, it's different!!! It’s so not different, it’s practically identical minus the hopefully improve coaching staff. Wilson seems to be more accurate but the majority of what he does well with his off balanced throwing on the run and backyard ball seems pretty similar to one Sam Darnold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: We do have the same general manager that surrounded Sam Darnold with other team's backups on the OL, let our only talented WR walk away for nothing and fielded the worst group of offensive players I've, honestly, ever seen. You can make all the excuses you want for JD but as of right now he's added a #2 WR to the worst offense in the NFL - and hasn't upgraded the worst OL I've ever seen. A lot can change between now and then but as of right now Peter King has every right to question what the Jets will do to support Zach Wilson. We dont have the same GM who fell in love with Darnold and picked him. You have no idea, maybe if JD was here in 2018 he drafts Allen. You make it sound like Darnold was good with Macc as GM and then JD came in and ruined him. Or that you could see how good he would be with a better OL whatever. It wasnt the OL that held Sam back last year. Still none of what you posted has anything to do with how Wilson plays, how talented he is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAR I Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: We do have the same general manager that surrounded Sam Darnold with other team's backups on the OL, let our only talented WR walk away for nothing and fielded the worst group of offensive players I've, honestly, ever seen. You can make all the excuses you want for JD but as of right now he's added a #2 WR to the worst offense in the NFL - and hasn't upgraded the worst OL I've ever seen. A lot can change between now and then but as of right now Peter King has every right to question what the Jets will do to support Zach Wilson. This. Joe Douglas has proven nothing. Nothing. My mom could make a list of expensive players and cut or trade them away. The actual skill is picking great players in the draft and recruiting great players in free agency. We no gots. And the article says Wilson faces a tough "heritage". As in the past. He doesn't say he faces a tough 'future'. Which is funny because the same people that were quick to pull the Gase trigger are giving Douglas every benefit of every doubt even though he took a 7-9 team and made it 2-14. SAR I 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freestater Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: https://www.nj.com/jets/2021/04/nfl-draft-2021-byus-zach-wilson-faces-dim-heritage-as-jets-qb-nbc-sports-peter-king-says.html Also ... NJ.com ... is that even a real source ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app It gets worse when you see his face. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 okay, so he's using past performance to make some sort of comment about the jets future performance. we all do it in some fashion or another. but what he does ignore is maybe the relative competence of douglas/saleh vice mac/bowles, or herm/bradway, or rex,/tanny or mangini/tanny etc. any of those pairs better? in my opinion maybe mangini/tanny was a good combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Patriots fans more than anyone should understand that all it takes to turn a franchise from a laughing stock into a crown jewel is 1 QB and a component Head Coach. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: https://www.nj.com/jets/2021/04/nfl-draft-2021-byus-zach-wilson-faces-dim-heritage-as-jets-qb-nbc-sports-peter-king-says.html Also ... NJ.com ... is that even a real source ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app It's just easy, lazy journalism. Instead of evaluating the current GM, HC, OC and QB Prospect, it's easy to just say "lol Jets." Unfortunately, that lazy journalism has worked over the years so I can see why these morons have been trained to use it. What's comical is that King is basically admitting to it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 This is how it will be, until the Jets find a stud QB. And it is always 'the Jets', like we're some fixed entity, where those responsible for the selections of Darnold, Smith, Sanchez, Petty, Hackenberg, etc. are somehow involved in the evaluation of Wilson. The Jets will always be the 'same old Jets' until we are not. A bigger problem than our failure to develop QBs, is our inability to evaluate them properly in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: He's a Patriots fan. Not sure what you expect. This clown Peter King was one of the people in the media raving hysterical about Wilson > Lawrence and now he’s doing this He knows the jets are repeating the same mistakes and he loves it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Patriots fans more than anyone should understand that all it takes to turn a franchise from a laughing stock into a crown jewel is 1 QB and a component Head Coach. Well yeah if that QB is the greatest football player ever that’s all it takes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, freestater said: It gets worse when you see his face. Whats worse, the guy who writes an article that isn’t really wrong, or the guy who tries to belittle the article by saying the writer isn’t good looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: We dont have the same GM who fell in love with Darnold and picked him. You have no idea, maybe if JD was here in 2018 he drafts Allen. You make it sound like Darnold was good with Macc as GM and then JD came in and ruined him. Or that you could see how good he would be with a better OL whatever. It wasnt the OL that held Sam back last year. Still none of what you posted has anything to do with how Wilson plays, how talented he is. He's referencing the past --- Currently we have a GM that put the worst offense in the NFL on the field. The least talented skill players and worst OL. I think we can all agree that a young QB needs a quality surrounding cast if you expect him to develop (maybe you don't think that) We just don't know if JD will or is capable of doing that - currently the only data we have is that he's not particularly good at it. Agree that the data we have is very small - and the hope is he does a better job than he did last year or has done through FA this year so far...but if you're on the outside looking in - like Peter King is what has he seen to say that JD will all of a sudden know how to support his young QB? He's taken a reasonable position. Heck, the majority of the fans on this board still want to draft defense early. It's insane to me, but they do...and then wonder why our QB's fail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, The Crusher said: It’s so not different, it’s practically identical minus the hopefully improve coaching staff. Wilson seems to be more accurate but the majority of what he does well with his off balanced throwing on the run and backyard ball seems pretty similar to one Sam Darnold. He wasn’t being serious. He was being a jokester. If it was Fields most likely going to the Jets, he would of been serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 lol came for the thread title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Philc1 said: 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: This clown Peter King was one of the people in the media raving hysterical about Wilson > Lawrence and now he’s doing this He knows the jets are repeating the same mistakes and he loves it If the case you’re making is that he liked Wilson over TL before the Jets were rumored to take Wilson #2 & now he’s doing this. maybe it’s not a mistake at all? Maybe it’s because it’s the Jets making the pick. Ever think of that? Or do you just hate the Wilson pick so much you have to make up your own reasoning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 It hurts to read but what did he get wrong on the facts? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Peter King has become an aging pitcher who can't get anyone out anymore, but refuses to hang em' up. Sad, actually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 54 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: We do have the same general manager that surrounded Sam Darnold with other team's backups on the OL, let our only talented WR walk away for nothing and fielded the worst group of offensive players I've, honestly, ever seen. You can make all the excuses you want for JD but as of right now he's added a #2 WR to the worst offense in the NFL - and hasn't upgraded the worst OL I've ever seen. A lot can change between now and then but as of right now Peter King has every right to question what the Jets will do to support Zach Wilson. BINGOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Imagine being the company still paying Peter King to produce what he does now. The industry passed him by 15 years ago and he’s still drawing massive paychecks to produce this “things I think I think” crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: He wasn’t being serious. He was being a jokester. If it was Fields most likely going to the Jets, he would of been serious. Wouldn’t know. Didn’t read it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 58 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: We do have the same general manager that surrounded Sam Darnold with other team's backups on the OL, let our only talented WR walk away for nothing and fielded the worst group of offensive players I've, honestly, ever seen. You can make all the excuses you want for JD but as of right now he's added a #2 WR to the worst offense in the NFL - and hasn't upgraded the worst OL I've ever seen. A lot can change between now and then but as of right now Peter King has every right to question what the Jets will do to support Zach Wilson. Layering in the pre-excuses for Zach Wilson like prepping a fine lasagna 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I love this thread, all the haters have their say, all the lovers become Peter King haters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Wouldn’t know. Didn’t read it LOL but you responded to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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